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01 Nov 2013, 7:55 am

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Obama's Chief of Staff is "summoned" to Capitol Hill to Obamacare's failure, and how they've lost all the advantage they had gained over the government shutdown.
I think the most amazing part was that these idiots on the Hill thought Obamacare was going to work on Oct 1. How naive ARE these morons?

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/01/us/politics/troubled-start-for-health-law-has-democrats-feeling-anxious.html?_r=0

Already under fierce attack from Republicans over the new health care law, President Obama now faces broad and mounting Democratic concerns that the troubled start of the insurance program will cut into the political benefit the party received from the government shutdown and cost Democratic candidates in next year’s midterm elections.

Senate Democratic leaders summoned the White House chief of staff, Denis R. McDonough, on Thursday along with the official most responsible for the troubled health insurance website, Marilyn Tavenner, and the person entrusted to fix it, Jeffrey D. Zients, for a closed-door venting session. That followed a meeting on Monday between Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. and worried House Democratic freshmen in the office of Representative Steny H. Hoyer of Maryland, the No. 2 Democrat.

It appeared that the White House would have to do more to reassure Democrats who emerged from the 16-day government shutdown confident of their political fortunes, only to see Republicans roar back on a wave of anger over the health care law.

“People are anxious,” said Senator Richard J. Durbin of Illinois, the No. 2 Democrat.

“I don’t think there’s confidence by anyone in the room,” said Senator Jeff Merkley, an Oregon Democrat up for re-election next year, as he emerged from the closed-door meeting in the Capitol. “This is more a show-me moment. We were all confident that the system was going to be up and operating on Oct 1. And now we’re not confident until it’s real.”

The anxious include not only senators and House members facing hotly contested races but those whose seats are considered safe, as well as lawmakers in states with Republican governors who have done nothing to promote the health care law and in states with Democratic governors who have created state-run websites and made every effort to sign up the uninsured.

“It’s not working well,” said Senator Benjamin L. Cardin, Democrat of Maryland, whose state was hailed by Mr. Obama as a model for the Affordable Care Act.

Many Democrats say the Obama administration must extend the period to enroll in new plans, given the continuing problems with website access. Senator Jeanne Shaheen of New Hampshire and 10 other Democrats have signed or endorsed a letter to Kathleen Sebelius, the health and human services secretary, pleading for more time. Ms. Shaheen told the administration officials on Thursday that she had a hard time taking them at their word because they had previously assured that the rollout was going to work.

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01 Nov 2013, 8:07 am

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Another Obamatron wakes up when reality slaps him in the wallet.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-obamacare-health-insurance-rates-increase-too-expensive-20131029,0,1645290.story#axzz2jFbnU36w
The Obama administration came out with a report Monday arguing that 1 million single adults between the ages of 18 and 35 will be eligible for an
Obamacare
insurance plan costing less than $50 a month.

That’s news to me.

I’m a healthy 34-year-old with a taxable income hovering right around the Obamacare subsidy level who, for the last several years, has purchased a relatively inexpensive catastrophic health insurance plan from Blue Shield. I get to see the doctor four times a year for a $30 co-pay, and I won’t have to spend the rest of my life working off the debt if I get hit by a bus.

Last month, however, I received a letter from my insurance company informing me that my plan was “no longer available” due to “new requirements for health coverage under the Affordable Care Act.” I am being funneled into the closest equivalent plan under the new California health exchange, and my monthly premium is going to rise by nearly 43% to $214 a month.

My old plan was as bare-bones as they came, so I assumed that even though the new plan would cost more, my coverage would improve under Obamacare, at least marginally.

It did not.

Under my old plan, my maximum out-of-pocket expense was $4,900. Under the new plan, I’m on the hook for up to $6,350. Copays for my doctor visits will double. For urgent-care visits, they will quadruple. Though slightly cheaper plans exist if I decide to shop around on the exchange, I will lose my dental coverage should I switch.

Needless to say, I am not pleased.

Most young, middle-class Americans I know are happy that millions of previously uninsured people will receive free or heavily subsidized insurance under the Affordable Care Act.

We just didn’t realize that, unless we had health insurance at work, we’d be the ones paying for it.


"We just didn't realize that... we'd be the ones paying for it".
And there is liberalism in a nutshell. Liberal policies are great as long as liberals don't have to actually pay for any of it.

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01 Nov 2013, 9:59 am

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KarlChilders wrote:
It also drove used car prices way up because those vehicles hadda be destroyed atleast the engines some kinda liquid glass was dumped in there to seize them up


Yep. Just another liberal program that screwed the poor, who relied on these used cars for basic transportation to/from work.
Of course in typical liberal fashion, they're told to just go ride the bus.
Screw 'em if they don't live on a bus route.

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01 Nov 2013, 10:02 am

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I've been seriously considering getting an investement group together and opening an ammunition factory in Boise.
By the time it's built, the "shortage" will probably be over, until the libs start another attempt at gun grabbing.

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01 Nov 2013, 10:05 am

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Another "I told you so" moment.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101162215
Obamacare does nothing to link doctors' fees to their performance and reduce health-care costs, the head of the Mayo Clinic told CNBC on Friday.

"The Affordable Care Act is basically insurance reform—eligibility and access—and basically, they are going to pay for that by reducing the reimbursement. It doesn't modernize how we drive to higher quality care," Dr. John Noseworthy said in a "Squawk Box" interview.


He said that updating reimbursement methods to reflect better outcomes will lower health-care costs. "Right now, we're in a system where we're reimbursing volume of care not quality and outcomes of care—safety, efficiency and so on. And that's where most of the costs are."


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01 Nov 2013, 10:20 am

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So yesterday we saw that the Administration admitted in 2010 that they knew Obamacare was going to cause policy cancellations, and today we see that Senate Democrats not only knew about it, but voted to keep it in place.
Every day this anchor around the necks of Congressional Dims gets tighter and heavier.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/10/31/senate-democrats-supported-rule-that-lead-to-insurance-cancellations/

Senate Democrats voted unanimously three years ago to support the Obamacare rule that is largely responsible for some of the health insurance cancellation letters that are going out.

In September 2010, Senate Republicans brought a resolution to the floor to block implementation of the grandfather rule, warning that it would result in canceled policies and violate President Barack Obama’s promise that people could keep their insurance if they liked it.

“The District of Columbia is an island surrounded by reality. Only in the District of Columbia could you get away with telling the people if you like what you have you can keep it, and then pass regulations six months later that do just the opposite and figure that people are going to ignore it. But common sense is eventually going to prevail in this town and common sense is going to have to prevail on this piece of legislation as well,” Iowa Sen. Chuck Grassley said at the time.

“The administration's own regulations prove this is not the case. Under the grandfathering regulation, according to the White House's own economic impact analysis, as many as 69 percent of businesses will lose their grandfathered status by 2013 and be forced to buy government-approved plans,” the Iowa Republican said.

On a party line vote, Democrats killed the resolution, which could come back to haunt vulnerable Democrats up for re-election this year.
Senate Democrats like Mary Landrieu, Jeanne Shaheen, Mark Pryor, Kay Hagan and Mark Begich – all of whom voted against stopping the rule from going into effect and have since supported delaying parts of Obamacare.


"On a party line vote" like everything else the Dims forced down the throats of Americans.
Good to see the liberal news finally reporting the truth.

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Posted by golfboy
01 Nov 2013, 10:25 am

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Poor goofy, just can't get over the fact he's a loser in a losers world. Don't worry goofy, the grown ups, that wouldn't be you, will take care of these issues as time goes on. We're just 30 days into the enrollment period, and nothing has taken effect yet. I would be happy to send you some cheese for that whine totally at my expense. No really.


As always, it's my fault that Obamacare is falling on it's face.
I love the "we're just 30 days in..."

6 people signed up the first day.
BWAAHAHAHAHHAAAHAHAHHAHAAAAHAHA

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01 Nov 2013, 10:26 am

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I'd rather have 10 $2,000 cars than one $20,000 car

That depends on insurance and registration costs...
And how many people you have in your home.

Problem is, with liberals deciding what you need, you don't get to choose.

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Posted by golfboy
01 Nov 2013, 10:36 am

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CBS also did not bother to explain that certain policies can be “grandfathered” in under the Affordable Care Act. If Dianne Barrette’s policy had been available before the ACA was signed into law on March 23, 2010, she could keep it. The only exception to that rule is if the benefits under the policy are changed. So the cancellation of her policy is the fault of Blue Cross, not Obamacare.


Liar. I love watching you Obamatrons trying to blame the insurance companies for having to comply with the law.

Obamacare mandates changes to policies, therefore no "grandfathered" policies exist, except for the special exemption given to polcies put in place by "collective bargining". Another carve out to liberal supporters.

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01 Nov 2013, 10:37 am

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How did the republicans not know about this? This isn't national security or any other matter that would keep the knowledge only to a select few people..

So much for transparency.

Republicans did know, that's why they brought a bill to the floor to correct the problem.
Democrats defeated that bill on a party line vote.

Check the 2nd paragraph of the article quoted in the OP.

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Posted by golfboy
01 Nov 2013, 10:40 am

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Another poor liberal that is pissed off that the Senate is doing it's Constitutionally mandated job.
Do you think anyone Obama nominates should be automatically confirmed by the Senate?

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01 Nov 2013, 11:02 am

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Maddow and Screws are liars. The Administration admitted they knew that businesses would be affected by Obamacare too, not just the self insured, as though killing the insurance of 15 million people wasn't bad enough.


Obama Officials In 2010: 93 Million Americans Will Be Unable To Keep Their Health Plans Under Obamacare

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/10/31/obama-officials-in-2010-93-million-americans-will-be-unable-to-keep-their-health-plans-under-obamacare/

The admiinistration's commentary in the Federal Register did not only refer to the individual market, but also the market for employer-sponsored health insurance.


Section 1251 of the Affordable Care Act contains what’s called a “grandfather” provision that, in theory, allows people to keep their existing plans if they like them. But subsequent regulations from the Obama administration interpreted that provision so narrowly as to prevent most plans from gaining this protection.


“The Departments’ mid-range estimate is that 66 percent of small employer plans and 45 percent of large employer plans will relinquish their grandfather status by the end of 2013,” wrote the administration on page 34552. All in all, more than half of employer-sponsored plans will lose their “grandfather status” and get canceled. According to the Congressional Budget Office, 156 million Americans—more than half the population—was covered by employer-sponsored insurance in 2013.

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Posted by golfboy
01 Nov 2013, 11:41 am

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Yes, we should believe you and ThinkProgress, rather than what we actually SEE happening around the country.
You idiots are desperate to spin the truth, but you can't. The facts are just not on your side, and even the mainstream media is now holding Obama accountable for his lies, and his approval ratings are going down the toilet.

Only the Obamatrons are still touting Obamacare as a success. Even democrats in Congress are now demanding a delay.

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01 Nov 2013, 11:47 am

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bludog wrote:
I shoot a lot of .45ACP and never have any trouble getting ammo either online or in local sporting goods stores. I don't reload but shoot factory reloads as well as various brands of new ammo. Mostly hardball for economy but some defensive hollowpoints.

I don't dispute the OP. I haven't experienced a shortage personally, but keep hearing about it.


You're lucky. 9mm and 45acp are still plentiful, even though the price has gone up.
The biggest shortage is for 22LR and 380. They are practically impossible to find.

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01 Nov 2013, 11:57 am

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Debunking the Debunkers: Yes, Obamacare Rate Shock is Real

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/conncarroll/2013/10/31/debunking-the-debunkers-yes-obamacare-rate-shock-is-real-n1733694

But now, The Los Angeles Times' Michael Hiltzik is trying to "debunk" his own paper's reporting. Cavallaro, Hiltzik now says, is wrong about her options under Obamacare and "is the product of her own misunderstandings, abetted by a passel of uninformed and incurious news reporters."

To recap: with her old plan, Cavarallo paid $480 less in premiums every year (even with subsidies included), got to keep the doctor she sees now, and had no fear that the IRS would come after her if she earned more money next year.

Under Obamacare, her premiums are higher, she probably will not be able to keep her doctor, she can't even find out which doctors will see her, and if she underestimates her income, she gets to fight with the IRS.

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01 Nov 2013, 12:01 pm

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Pist0lPete wrote:
I have a 380 and I was told by a guy at the gunshop that most manufacturers use the same machinery for 9mm and 380, but they have to make small modifications to the machines to switch between the two. He said that since 9mm is more popular, they only make 380 lines once or twice a year.


You're right. 380 and 9mm are the same diameter, like 357 and 38 ammo. The difference is handling the shorter 380 case, and the longer "throw" for the machine to correctly seat and crimp the bullet.

You should reload, it's fun, you learn a lot and you save a bunch of money.

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01 Nov 2013, 12:07 pm

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Bad news for women that prefer risky abortions with no medical backup.

http://news.yahoo.com/court-reinstates-most-texas-abortion-rules-000638572.html
A federal appeals court on Thursday ruled that most of Texas' tough new abortion restrictions can take effect immediately — a decision that means a third of the state's clinics that perform the procedure won't be able to do so starting as soon as Friday.

A panel of judges at the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals in New Orleans said the law requiring doctors to have admitting privileges at a nearby hospital can take effect while a lawsuit challenging the restrictions moves forward. The panel issued the ruling three days after District Judge Lee Yeakel said the provision serves no medical purpose.

In its 20-page ruling, the appeals court panel acknowledged that the provision "may increase the cost of accessing an abortion provider and decrease the number of physicians available to perform abortions." However, the panel said that the U.S. Supreme Court has held that having "the incidental effect of making it more difficult or more expensive to procure an abortion cannot be enough to invalidate" a law that serves a valid purpose, "one not designed to strike at the right itself."

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01 Nov 2013, 12:14 pm

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Even the New Yorker is now making fun of Obama.

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01 Nov 2013, 1:46 pm

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:o Mother Jones breaking the bad news to the Obamatrons that think they are going to win in 2014

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/10/new-poll-shows-democratic-incumbents-big-trouble
Today brings a new poll from Democracy Corps titled
"Revolt against DC and the Republican Congress." And it's true: their polling shows that even in Republican districts, the GOP's brand has taken a beating.


But once you get past the generic questions and ask about approval/disapproval of
actual members of Congress, the picture turns sharply. I've combined two charts to show what happens when you ask people in battleground districts about their own representatives:


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In Democratic districts, net incumbent approval has plummeted by 11 points, from +8 approval to +3
disapproval. In Republican districts, incumbent approval has gone down only 4 points. You see the same results when they ask a question about warmth of feeling toward incumbents: It's down 7 points in Republican districts and 9 points in Democratic districts.


This isn't good news for Democrats. It's true that attitudes toward the Republican Party have taken a bigger hit than attitudes toward the Democratic Party, but attitudes toward actual incumbents are exactly the opposite. And in elections, that's what matters.




I've tried to explain this to many, many liberals and they don't seem to "get it".

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01 Nov 2013, 1:55 pm

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Gillibrand puts hold on Obama Navy nominee

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2013/11/01/Gillibrand-puts-hold-on-Obama-Navy-nominee/UPI-13101383286500/

Sen.
Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y., put a hold on Jo Ann Rooney, President
Obama's Navy undersecretary pick, due to her remarks about military sexual assaults.


Gillibrand's office said the senator, a member of the Armed Services Committee, took the unusual move against Obama, a fellow Democrat, because she was "extremely troubled" by Rooney's justification of why she didn't like Gillibrand's proposal to remove the chain of command from decisions to prosecute allegations of sexual assault and other major crimes in the military.


Rooney, tapped by Obama to be the Navy's No. 2 civilian, told the Armed Services Committee ahead of her confirmation hearing her justification had to do with the limits of evidence in the military.


"A judge advocate outside the chain of command will be looking at a case through a different lens than a military commander," Rooney said in a statement. "I believe the impact would be decisions based on evidence rather than the interest in preserving good order and discipline."


Damn Republicans!