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TotallyRad » 16 Jan 2014 12:22 pm wrote:
And for those that whine that Salon is too left wing...

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/01/12/we ... al-plants/


I like the Boehner connection to the mess...


// Water Contamination In West Virginia May Have Started Weeks Ago, Residents Believe
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/0 ... weeks-ago/

// John Boehner On West Virginia Chemical Spill: 'We Have Enough Regulations'
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/1 ... 95897.html

// John Boehner Took Money From Freedom Industries, Company Behind West Virginia Chemical Spill
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/1 ... f=politics
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Chris Hedges wrote:
But more ominously, the New Atheists ignore the wisdom of original sin, as well as studies in cognitive behavior that illustrate that human nature is often irrational and flawed.

This bit suggests that Hedges has a poor grasp of the biblical material. The Eden story is not about the flaws or shortcomings of people, it is an allegory for the discovery of morality. Before "the fall", humans were innocent because they did not know of morality, afterwards, they no longer could claim innocence on the basis of ignorance. It has nothing at all to do with being irrational and flawed, that is just distorted doctrine.

Chris Hedges wrote:
... the New Atheists ... peddle the alluring and enticing fantasy of inevitable moral and material progress....

These "new atheists" sound like some unified group, a denomination or sect. He seems to be suggesting that they speak for all atheists the way the pope speaks for all catholics or the prophet speaks for all mormons. It is like he wants to create the presence of a clear identifiable enemy where there is only fog. And that he wants to tie "progress" to them, when the battle for and against progress comes from all directions.

This guy is an educated idiot trying to pluck at some heart-strings. Unfortunately for him, the audience he is trying to reach are mostly smarter than his inane blather.
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16 Jan 2014, 2:38 pm

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golfboy » 16 Jan 2014 11:07 am wrote:
If you believe Coulter meant that statement to be literal, than yes, it definitely crossed a line.
Again, she was pointing out a basic tenet of the Muslim religion that instructs it's followers to convert or kill non-believers.
I'm not aware of the Bible instructing Christians to murder people that do not convert to their religion. Have I missed that, somehow?



GB, I don't think it matters whether she meant it literally. It was in really bad taste.
Here's a couple things about believers being instructed to kill infidels / nonbelievers:

First, when the Children of Israel came to the Promised Land, God had Moses send scouts into the land to determine the strength of its defenders. They reported back to Moses, and Moses to God, and God told Moses to send men into Canaan (the Promised Land) to kill every man, woman, and child there. This is beyond my comprehension, GB.


Kill Nonbelievers
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)


Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God
Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)


Kill Followers of Other Religions.
1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)


God Will Kill the Children of Sinners
If even then you remain hostile toward me and refuse to obey, I will inflict you with seven more disasters for your sins. I will release wild animals that will kill your children and destroy your cattle, so your numbers will dwindle and your roads will be deserted. (Leviticus 26:21-22 NLT)

More Rape and Baby Killing
Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children. (Isaiah 13:15-18 NLT)

Now, you'll notice all this is from the Old Testament, and people are fond of quoting Jesus' words, "I come not to destroy the Law (meaning the OT) but to complete." Of course there's more than one way to take that, and I certainly don't know which is right, but Jesus says in Matthew that he is in no way condemning or nullifying the commands in the Old Testament.
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TotallyRad » 16 Jan 2014 3:11 pm wrote:
Annoyed Liberall » 16 Jan 2014 2:39 pm wrote:
I just found out my ex husband got divorced again. For the same reasons we got divorced.
I am happy because through our whole marriage he tried to convince me I was the problem.

Well, he has been married less than 2 years and it's over. I have been married to my 2nd husband for 12 years and we are going strong.

So, I guess it wasn't me after all. I feel vindicated.

But, I am wondering if it's bad that it makes me happy to see him miserable? I mean he deserves it and all, but I shouldn't be happy about others' misfortune, right?


It's almost impossible to not to take failed relationships personally. From what I know of you, I'm sure he did his best to make you miserable. I knew a woman that had a shitstain for a husband. He cheated on her constantly, and covered it up by accusing her of doing the same thing. So while she was busy trying to be a good wife, he was being a bastard. Divorce was the smart choice for her.


Yeah, he did the same thing.

Some people are just miserable bastards.
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Posted by skews13
16 Jan 2014, 5:24 pm

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Annoyed Liberall » 16 Jan 2014 3:11 pm wrote:
NeoConvict » 16 Jan 2014 3:09 pm wrote:
He is probably not as miserable as his "victim". What was his repeated issue?


Battery and infidelity.


Nobody has a right to put their hands on you in a violent way AL. You were obviously in an abusive relationship, and it is a blessing that you got out of it. Each of us is responsible for our own happiness. You cannot depend on someone else for it. If you're a happy person, you are going to bring that happiness into the marriage. If you are an angry, or violent person, then you are going to bring that into the marriage. The marriage itself isn't going to change who you are. While you were emotionally invested in this person for a length of time, it is time to break that emotional bond, and give 100% to your new marriage. By wondering what he's doing, you are keeping that bond in tact, and it isn't fair to you, or your new husband. Especially you. Your a survivor. Pat yourself on the back and move on.
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littlehawk12 » 16 Jan 2014 2:16 am wrote:
All you ever have is grade school name calling. Why wouldn't everyone believe me over you, fraud?


Most likely because we've all read your drunken rants. :rofl:
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Wildfire » 16 Jan 2014 10:57 am wrote:
Why are you doing this? I thought this site was going to be different than the other one. :?:

because it demonstrates what people care about. before you can treat an illness, you have to accurately diagnose
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Posted by GeorgeWashington
16 Jan 2014, 5:37 pm

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I happen to like the rep system, and eventually I plan to add a "best of" based on rep.
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You should talk to Karl about this.
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Posted by golfboy
16 Jan 2014, 5:21 pm

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Annoyed Liberall » 16 Jan 2014 3:11 pm wrote:

Battery and infidelity.

You should have shot him. Any man that hits a woman deserves to be shot.
As far as I'm concerned, they are like pedophiles... there is no way to "fix" their problem.
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Annoyed Liberall » 16 Jan 2014 2:39 pm wrote:
I just found out my ex husband got divorced again. For the same reasons we got divorced.
I am happy because through our whole marriage he tried to convince me I was the problem.

Well, he has been married less than 2 years and it's over. I have been married to my 2nd husband for 12 years and we are going strong.

So, I guess it wasn't me after all. I feel vindicated.

But, I am wondering if it's bad that it makes me happy to see him miserable? I mean he deserves it and all, but I shouldn't be happy about others' misfortune, right?

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Rejoice, rejoice, again I say rejoice.

While itis not good to be happy about anybody in pain you have every right to rejoice in your vindication. The best thing for you to do is forgive him and ignore him. Not for him but for you. Then rejoice that you were right.
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Posted by TotallyRad
16 Jan 2014, 5:29 pm

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Annoyed Liberall » 16 Jan 2014 3:13 pm wrote:

Yeah, he did the same thing.

Some people are just miserable bastards.


Then at least you should take happiness in knowing you made a smart decision in a very difficult situation.
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16 Jan 2014, 6:03 pm

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Annoyed Liberall » 16 Jan 2014 3:11 pm wrote:
NeoConvict » 16 Jan 2014 3:09 pm wrote:
He is probably not as miserable as his "victim". What was his repeated issue?


Battery and infidelity.


Abusers like him never change, and are deserving of no sympathy at all.... They are usually sociopaths, clinically incapable of putting anyone or anything before themselves and their need to control others... He'll do the same to the next unfortunate woman whos life he slithers into... You should be happy-happy-happy even if he's miserable..It's called karma.
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Skeptic » 16 Jan 2014 5:04 pm wrote:

$50 bucks a week from the Koch Brothers! It's his only income.

[for cons: the above is a joke]


we have seen him furiously grinding out posts on a sunday evening to top off his list for his monday morning time sheet submission
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16 Jan 2014, 7:18 am

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Cannonpointer has been taking a lot of ABUSE from ARROGANT JERKS Lately

Cannonpointer is out ADMIN and he's doing a FINE JOB

A substantial number of us are now PERMANENTLY Banned at Chucks place but Cannon has ROLLED OUT the WELCOME MAT and gave us MISFITS a HOME

For all of CANNONS GENEROSITY what does he get a bunch of Attacks and DOUCHEBAGGERY

Instead of being GRATEFUL you all acting like a bunch of SELFISH BRATS

Cannon has done an awesome job and has been nothing but ACCOMMODATING

So show some RESPECT otherwise from NOW ON if ya gonna Beat up on Cannon in his OWN BAR there should be a THREE DRINK MINNIMUN at FULL PRICE no Happy Hour discount
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16 Jan 2014, 1:53 pm

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TheNightStalker » 16 Jan 2014 9:40 am wrote:
KarlChilders » 16 Jan 2014 6:18 am wrote:
Cannonpointer has been taking a lot of ABUSE from ARROGANT JERKS Lately

Cannonpointer is out ADMIN and he's doing a FINE JOB

A substantial number of us are now PERMANENTLY Banned at Chucks place but Cannon has ROLLED OUT the WELCOME MAT and gave us MISFITS a HOME

For all of CANNONS GENEROSITY what does he get a bunch of Attacks and DOUCHEBAGGERY

Instead of being GRATEFUL you all acting like a bunch of SELFISH BRATS

Cannon has done an awesome job and has been nothing but ACCOMMODATING

So show some RESPECT otherwise from NOW ON if ya gonna Beat up on Cannon in his OWN BAR there should be a THREE DRINK MINNIMUN at FULL PRICE no Happy Hour discount


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Kral, show some respect and spell the title right at least. :\
The text is forgivable because there's a sense of urgency to get the "message" out.

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