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Misty » 12 Aug 2017 11:04 am wrote:
This is why 45 is so nervous about Mueller looking into his financial dealings.
He has a very shady way of doing business.
Always has.
He regularly cheated people, in this case the city of New York.

"Unusual" accounting: Inside a Trump business audit.

NEW YORK -- In a three-sentence letter on April 22, 1987, Donald Trump signed off on a series of accounting changes that allowed his first hotel to shortchange New York City nearly $3 million in rent, city auditors later concluded.

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A decade before, Trump struck a unique deal freeing the hotel of $160 million in property taxes over the course of 40 years, while guaranteeing the city a small financial stake in its success: New York City received annual rent payments tied to the Grand Hyatt’s profits.

In 1986, the hotel had its best year, raking in nearly $80 million. City officials expected to receive at least as much as the $3.7 million paid the year before.

But a month after Trump and his partners signed off on the accounting changes, the city was paid just $667,155.

What followed was a two-year-long saga in which city auditors said they were met with stonewalling, disorganization and obfuscation at every turn.

Thirty years later, as the Republican nominee for president cites an IRS audit while refusing to release his tax returns, the Grand Hyatt case offers rare insight into what an audit of a Trump business can look like.

Experts asked by CBS News to examine the city auditor’s report, which was completed in 1989, described the behavior of hotel and Trump Organization officials as “unusual” and “unheard of.”

Karen Burstein, who was the city’s auditor general at the time, told CBS News she never forgot the case.

“Something was fishy there,” Burstein said referring to the hotel’s owners.

“This was not the behavior of an innocent party. I think that’s what became evident to us.”

The experts who examined her report say it detailed failures in basic bookkeeping, the seemingly sudden adoption of irregular accounting methods, and efforts to stymie officials.

Stonewalling

It was more than a year before city officials were allowed to step inside the Grand Hyatt.

On one occasion, a date was agreed on for the audit to begin, but cancelled the day before by hotel lawyers.

That law firm, Dreyer and Traub, represented Trump throughout the 1980s.

Certified public accountant Robert Tobey said auditors rarely face such delays.

“It’s one of those things you want closure on.

Why would you want this hanging over your head?” said Tobey, a partner at Perelson Weiner LLP, which audits corporations, hedge funds, private equity funds and non-profits.

“Stonewalling auditors is not a common practice. You want to make them go away.”

Yet Dreyer and Traub challenged city officials before they even got started, arguing that the city did not have a right to examine the hotel’s records.

Eventually, the law firm reversed course, but it was an early warning sign that this would not be a normal audit, experts said.

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Accountants are typically in charge in the early stages of an audit, and attorneys only show up at the end, if there’s a dispute, said certified public accountant John Lieberman, also of Perelson Weiner.

“It appears in this case, the attorneys came in almost with guns blazing, and said, ‘You’re not allowed to audit,’ which is a very, very unusual thing,” Lieberman said.

“I would say in 35 years I have never seen that type of thing.”

But it was what the city’s auditors discovered when they got inside the hotel that most surprised forensic accountant Rumbi Petrozzello.

Missing books

The amount of financial information simply missing was staggering.

For just the year 1986, the hotel, which was managed by the Hyatt Corporation, was unable to produce:

Seven of 12 monthly ledgers
Three of 12 detailed ledgers
25 of 87 income journals
One of five payroll cycles
26 of 84 expense vouchers

“That’s the stuff you’re expected to hold on to, for various reasons,” said Petrozzello, of Rock Financial Forensics, who along with Lieberman and Tobey, is a member of the New York State Society of Certified Public Accountants.

“Even if it’s for an IRS audit, what are you going to say, ‘I don’t keep scraps of paper.’”

But “scrap of paper” is exactly what the hotel called its guest checks, food receipts and other financial records in correspondence with auditors.

Keeping such basic information would be a “Herculean task” the hotel wrote in its response to the city’s audit.

The hotel also argued that its contract with the city did not require it to keep those records.

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Auditors were most concerned about the missing monthly ledgers, the records that should have detailed more than half a year of income and expenses.

The hotel said the ledgers were stored off-site, in a room in New Jersey that had been flooded.

Computerized records had been sent to an office in Chicago, where they were lost, the hotel said.

“Just inexcusable,” said Burstein.

Auditors also discovered that the hotel maintained “two capitalization policies in the same year,” allowing its accountants -- a soon-to-be bankrupt firm named Laventhol and Horwath -- to produce an in-house estimate of profits that was drastically different than what the city was given.

Generally Unacceptable Accounting Principles

Businesses typically calculate their revenues and expenses using one of two accounting methods, cash or accrual.

This is one of the marquee concepts of the Generally Accepted Accounting Principles (GAAP), a set of standards that guide the field.

In 1987, the Grand Hyatt decided to retroactively use both for the year before -- accounting for revenues on a cash basis and expenses on an accrual basis.

Auditors said the decision allowed the hotel to misrepresent its profits, an accusation the hotel denied, arguing that its contract with the city didn’t require it to follow GAAP.

“Until now, I have never come across a mixed method of income and expenses, where one is cash and the other is accrual,” said Petrozzello.

“It doesn’t make sense to work that way, because then your numbers are just misleading, in a way.”

That January, Laventhol and Horwath first calculated and certified the rent due to New York City, known as the percentage rental, at $3.3 million, roughly in keeping with the amount the Grand Hyatt had paid previously during the 1980s.

But days after they arrived at the $3.3 million figure, the hotel’s ownership partners -- Trump’s Wembley Realty and Grand Hyatt’s Refco Properties -- requested the accounting firm suggest ways to lower their tax and rent payments, according to a letter from Laventhol and Horwath included in the auditor’s final report.

The key was to argue that the hotel had profited less, even while revenues had increased.

The importance of profit in calculating the rent was explained by Burstein in a 1989 memo to then-Mayor Ed Koch:

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Laventhol and Horwath started by throwing out GAAP.

Using the mismatched cash and accrual methods, the accountants were able to lower the hotel’s reported profits enough to cut $1.1 million from the $3.3 million they originally certified.

But that wasn’t enough.

The firm then suggested a series of changes in the way the hotel expensed assets, such as furniture.

The hotel’s furnishings had always been regarded as having an eight-year lifespan, but suddenly the accountants changed that figure to six years.

The result was that the hotel could expense 25 percent more for every single fixture inside the massive, 26-floor building.

Similar changes were made for expensing freight charges, sales taxes, and labor costs.

Ultimately, Laventhol and Horwath needed to revise the hotel’s 1986 financial report three times before it was able to lower the total rent to $667,155, and the Trump-Hyatt partnership were finally willing to approve it for sending to the city.

Then Laventhol and Horwath violated GAAP one last time, the auditors said.

Accountants are supposed to certify financial reports when they are totally complete and no more changes are made.

Laventhol and Horwath sent its altered report in May 1987, but kept the original January certification date.

“The January date is therefore false; however, the accountants may have thought it protected them from questions about later recalculations that vary significantly from generally accepted auditing standards,” Burstein wrote in her memo to Koch.

Lawyers for New York City would later call the decision to keep the January certification date “a deliberate attempt “ to conceal accounting changes and “a fraud against the public,” a claim both the accountants and the Trump Organization denied.

Dealing with Trump’s people

Burstein said Trump Organization personnel actively engaged with her auditing team throughout the process.

“It was his people who were calling us all the time. It wasn’t anybody from Hyatt,” Burstein said.

City correspondence with the hotel’s ownership partners was sent to the Trump Organization, according to court documents.

And hotel officials tried to keep the audit from being made public, she said.

“They said, but this is Donald Trump ... I have to say they made an enormous fuss about it,” Burstein said.

In a letter written after the audit was completed, the hotel’s controller, Stan Blagojevic, wrote that he believed the auditors’ focus on the hotel “may relate to the presence of Donald Trump as one of the owners.”

Blagojevic wrote that his management company had been “extremely reluctant” to work in New York City, “a classic example of urban decay and municipal neglect,” until they “were persuaded to do so by the extraordinary vision of Donald J. Trump.”

Blagojevic, who passed away in 2004, was harshly critical of the audit.

“Rather than an objective and professional discussion of the audit’s findings and conclusions, the draft report is replete with diatribes, hyperbole and histrionics,” Blagojevic wrote.

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The accountants who reviewed Burstein’s work for CBS News all had a different take.

“It was probably one of the best reports I’ve ever read,” said Lieberman.

“You didn’t have to know anything about this backstory except to read what they did.

The history, the background, the principles, what happened, it’s all very clear.”

Trump said in a statement to CBS News that he doesn’t recall the audit.

“I sold the hotel many years ago for a tremendous profit.

By building the hotel I created thousands of jobs, saved the Grand Central area, and helped to revive a dying, at the time, New York City,” Trump said.

“The city was extremely happy with that development and you’re now bringing up something thirty years later that I’ve never heard about.”

The Hyatt Hotels Corporation declined to comment for this story.

Soon after Burstein’s report was filed, the Office of the Auditor General was among several city agencies shuttered as part of a series of budget cuts.

She went on to be a state court judge, before running as a Democratic candidate for state attorney general in 1994, when she lost to Republican Dennis Vacco.

State officials reviewed Burstein’s report in late 1989 and determined it was accurate.

They ordered the hotel to pay New York City about $2.9 million.

A month later, in January 1990, a Trump Organization official signed for the ownership partners on a lawsuit against the city and state.

The government filed a countersuit, and added Laventhol and Horwath as a defendant.

A year later the accounting firm filed for bankruptcy.

A judge ordered the case stayed during the bankruptcy proceedings, but a city clerk accidentally marked the case as disposed, according to court documents.

The city forgot about the case until 2000, when another clerk noticed the mistake.

In a new series of filings, the city and hotel -- which was no longer owned by Trump, who sold his stake in 1996 -- argued about whether the case could be continued.

Ultimately it was, and in 2004 the two sides reached a settlement. Its terms were not disclosed.

For the years after 1986, however, the percentage rental paid to the city again rose into the $3 million range, and continued to increase through 1999, when the hotel paid about $6.8 million.


"Trump said in a statement to CBS News that he doesn’t recall the audit.
The city was extremely happy with that development and you’re now bringing up something thirty years later that I’ve never heard about.”

Right.
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Here is a simple fact that poor Misty doesn't understand. Trump has known for decades that he will get audited every year. Therefore he has a batch of lawyers and accountants do his taxes. Therefore that drivel you posted is meaningless about Trumps practices. He relies on accountants and lawyers to help him make correct decisions about money and business activities. He chooses a direction and the accountants and lawyers guide him through accomplishing it correctly.

RANT AWAY MISTY, RANT AWAY!!!!
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I see Misty and friends have now changed their minds.

It's not the act of a lunatic...it's Trump's fault.

I was there and saw secret service men hold the guy in the picture at gun point and forced him to put on a Trump cap.

BTW Misty...Hillary is still relevant. She jumped on the band wagon with you...but like you, she was nowhere to be found when leftists were killing people and destroying property.

I'll do what Misty won't do...the person driving the car is a murderer and belongs in prison.

Now a person is dead...and Misty will milk that dead body for all the political points she thinks she can score.
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Misty » 11 Aug 2017 11:55 pm wrote:
European diplomats reportedly consider Trump a 'laughing stock' who is 'obsessed with Obama'

Foreign diplomats hold a less-than-flattering view of President Donald Trump, according to a BuzzFeed report published on Wednesday.

Top-ranking European officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity, told BuzzFeed that their chief concerns were Trump's unpredictable Twitter use and his erratic behavior.

Among other things, they also described the president as "something of a laughing stock" at international gatherings.

As one official described it to BuzzFeed, diplomats consider his vocabulary to be limited to so few words and phrases that they play a type of "word bingo" whenever he speaks.

"Everything is 'great'; 'very, very great', 'amazing'," one diplomat told BuzzFeed.

Trump's distinctive speaking style has been widely imitated, most notably by actor Alec Baldwin, who often parodies the president on NBC's "Saturday Night Live."

While mimicking Trump, Baldwin often incorporates words the president favors into his routines, like "tremendous," "amazing," and "incredible."


This would be funny if it weren't so sad.

:die: :die: :die: :clap: :clap: :die: :die: :die:
What would be funny if it wasn't so sad is your demented hatred of Trump biasing everything about him in your mind. Everything he says and does is viewed in your mind by the filter of hatred of him. Your emotion driven view ignores the real facts about him.

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If you follow results you end up a conservative.
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Facts Don't Care About Your Feelings
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Presented by Ben Shapiro

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Hok2PiRnDfw


The problem Misty has is she filters out facts that disagree with her demented view of Trump. She makes an automatic emotion driven view that the real facts are false. Thus avoiding the cognitive dissonance caused by two opposite views of Trump impossible to maintain long enough to ascertain the truth.
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Misty » 13 Aug 2017 4:06 am wrote:
Make America Great Again

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Proving my point of my previous post!!!!!
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Sgt Bilko » 13 Aug 2017 5:40 am wrote:
:die: :die: :die: :clap: :clap: :die: :die: :die:
What would be funny if it wasn't so sad is your demented hatred of Trump biasing everything about him in your mind. Everything he says and does is viewed in your mind by the filter of hatred of him. Your emotion driven view ignores the real facts about him.

If you follow feelings you end up a liberal.
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Facts Don't Care About Your Feelings
May 11, 2017
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Hok2PiRnDfw

The problem Misty has is she filters out facts that disagree with her demented view of Trump. She makes an automatic emotion driven view that the real facts are false. Thus avoiding the cognitive dissonance caused by two opposite views of Trump impossible to maintain long enough to ascertain the truth.




This video shows exactly what Misty does.
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Sgt Bilko » 13 Aug 2017 5:42 am wrote:
Proving my point of my previous post!!!!!


I'd like to thank Misty for being concerned about violence by people on both sides...there are many many examples of this on the left...far more than there are on the right.

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/07/03 ... a-protest/

Oh wait...Misty didn't post any of this stuff...never mind.

(Misty says she a registered republican)
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Huey » 13 Aug 2017 8:18 am wrote:
Misty is priceless. She is taking the word of one she claims is an idiot.


She'll accept any source that supports her Democrat Talking Point Lies, no matter how absurd.

Here is the comment again:

We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides," Trump said during a short statement from his private golf club in New Jersey. "It has been going on for a long time in our country -- not Donald Trump, not Barack Obama. It has been going on for a long, long time. It has no place in America."


That's code words for,"I'm a racist. Thanks for coming!" :rofl: :rofl:
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Well, all this is just terrific. White Republicans condemning violence on our streets by white supremacists. OTOH, let's see the condemnations of black violence by white dems in Congress, much less black dems in Congress. I don't recall ever hearing them, and certainly don't recall you posting them. In addition, I certainly don't recall Obama condemning any of it. I do recall him exacerbating Ferguson and the Martin case, however. You didn't seem to "involve" yourself with that, either, but boy are you ever after Trump's condemnations. I guess all that was different. BLM is legit, cop killers or not; white supremacists are not, and one of them killed somebody. Both need to be handled by law enforcement and justice, in my perspective, but apparently only the latter need condemning by people like you.

Look, I will never get behind anyone of either race taking violence to the streets, but I've said for a long while now, it's but a matter of time before pushback happens, and that pushback might get damned ugly. Don't try to tell me that there is nothing the black community has done and is doing to incite this behavior regardless of how you or I feel about the behavior. From what I learned on tv, the protest was about the removal of a civil war statue of Gen. Lee in Charlottesville. It got ugly and I don't know why it got ugly. Maybe you do.

I'm a northerner by birth and lived the majority of my life there, but I maintain that the south has the right to its legacy and just because certain people are pissed about that legacy doesn't mean it has to be wiped out. If these so-called white supremacists went there with the intention of harm and violence, then of course they were wrong as wrong can be and need to pay the price for it. Did they, however, have the right to stand up to those removing the south's legacy? They were met with counter-protesters and what happened thereafter to get it all going, I don't know. I live in the south now, and I'm telling you that "southern pride" is NOT about slavery. It's about the price paid in war and what happened after the war. But the left makes it all about slavery.
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Ram it, cram it, and rotate it. Your Trump blindness causes you to ignore the absolute hatred and violence of the left. Your hatred of Trump is symptomatic of the issue. Blind hatred turning into violence!!! Losing big time at the polls seems to have unhinged the leftwing moonbats. Reaction to Obama and his laws and spending triggered the problem and Democrats have responded with violence.

Obama's doubling the debt while spending $900 billion average a year in deficit while presiding over a dismal 1.4 average GDP the lowest average of any president since WWII. Also having employment drop by 8 million full time jobs and increasing part time jobs. He created Obama Care which he won the prestigious Pinocchio Award for by promising cheaper insurance and keeping your doctor. It cost more and lots of doctors failed to sign up since it didn't pay enough to break even. The results of progressive idiocy. The result is a backlash with the following.

1. Congress went Republican at his first midterm election.
2. President and Congress are Republican.
3. State governors and legislatures in 36 states are Republican.
4. Only 6 states are Democrat.
5. The remaining states went from Democrat to mixed.

The county election map of the country shows a sea of red with two spots of blue in southern California and southern NY.

Thank you Obama!!!


20 TIMES VIOLENCE THREATENED, USED, IN WAKE OF DEMS' POLITICAL COLLAPSE
Top party official called for 'violence, death, blood in the streets'
Published: 06/14/2017 at 3:53 PM

http://www.wnd.com/2017/06/20-times-vio ... PmXBkMA.99

WASHINGTON – There is no doubt that politics in the United States now include a level of violence not seen in recent memory.

It comes as factions of the Democratic Party have proven unable to accept the fact their candidate for president, now twice-failed Hillary Clinton, lost a decisive election to the GOP candidate, Donald Trump, in 2016.

It means they are not able to continue pushing the nation in a far-left progressive direction, as they did over and over again under Barack Obama.

What do YOU think? What’s the most important lesson of Wednesday’s shooting attack? Sound off in today’s WND poll!

Even during the campaign, Trump supporters faced physical beatings. They continue to face violence at “resist” protests around the country even now, as those Democrats have moved over and over to deny Trump the rights of the office.

Wednesday, Republican Rep. Steve Scalise and several congressional aides were shot during baseball practice in Alexandria, Virginia, as they prepared to participate in a charity game.

Gunman Opens Fire at Republican Members of Congress
Noah Nathan films shootout at an Alexandria, Virginia park that wounded House Majority Whip Steve Scalise.

Reports indicate the attack likely was politically motivated, as the event was entirely filled with Republicans. The shooter was identified as John T. Hodgkinson, an apparent Bernie Sanders supporter from Illinois, and he reportedly asked for the victims’ political affiliation before shooting.

The shooting, which left the victims injured and the attacker dead, may be the worst such politically linked violence in recent weeks, but it’s far from the first.

Or only.

The following is a list of 20 examples of leftist violence or threats:

1) Rioters at UC-Berkeley turned violent in order to shut down a pro-Trump speech by Milo Yiannopoulos.

2) Radical leftists maced an innocent young girl as she was interviewed.

3) Berkeley’s communist mayor likely let it all happen.

4) Top Democrat Tim Kaine called for a “fight in the streets” against Trump.

5) Kaine’s own radical, left-wing son got into trouble for following those instructions.

6) Radical leftists have posted fliers around college campuses promoting violence against Trump supporters.

7) “Antifa” groups who put up these fliers even have targeted journalists.

8) Demonstrators attacked the mount of a police officer during a protest event.

9) Liberal journalists like Vox’s Emmett Rensin defend such acts.

10) Leftist professors issued calls to violence.

11) Celebs Kathy Griffin and Jerry Seinfeld become echo chambers for the calls to violence.

12) Music industry leaders, like Snoop Dogg, join in.

13) Left-leaning insiders in the theater also joined in.

14) Obama favorite Loretta Lynch called for “marching, blood, death in the streets.”

15) “Antifa” protesters attacked Trump supporters in another riot at Berkeley.

16) A far-left professor, Eric Clanton, was arrested for assaulting Trump supporters with a bike lock after a riot.

17) Multiple times, attackers struck during Trump campaign events.

18) Attacks even happened at events marking Trump’s inauguration.

19) Liberal celebrities, like Charlie Sheen, have called for Trump’s death.

20) Liberal actress Sarah Silverman even called for a coup.

To really understand the war zone America is becoming, read the June issue of WND’s acclaimed monthly Whistleblower magazine, “RAGE AND VIOLENCE: Why the Left has gone insane in the Age of Trump.”
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larryc12 » 13 Aug 2017 8:53 am wrote:


Well, all this is just terrific. White Republicans condemning violence on our streets by white supremacists. OTOH, let's see the condemnations of black violence by white dems in Congress, much less black dems in Congress. I don't recall ever hearing them, and certainly don't recall you posting them. In addition, I certainly don't recall Obama condemning any of it. I do recall him exacerbating Ferguson and the Martin case, however. You didn't seem to "involve" yourself with that, either, but boy are you ever after Trump's condemnations. I guess all that was different. BLM is legit, cop killers or not; white supremacists are not, and one of them killed somebody. Both need to be handled by law enforcement and justice, in my perspective, but apparently only the latter need condemning by people like you.

Look, I will never get behind anyone of either race taking violence to the streets, but I've said for a long while now, it's but a matter of time before pushback happens, and that pushback might get damned ugly. Don't try to tell me that there is nothing the black community has done and is doing to incite this behavior regardless of how you or I feel about the behavior. From what I learned on tv, the protest was about the removal of a civil war statue of Gen. Lee in Charlottesville. It got ugly and I don't know why it got ugly. Maybe you do.

I'm a northerner by birth and lived the majority of my life there, but I maintain that the south has the right to its legacy and just because certain people are pissed about that legacy doesn't mean it has to be wiped out. If these so-called white supremacists went there with the intention of harm and violence, then of course they were wrong as wrong can be and need to pay the price for it. Did they, however, have the right to stand up to those removing the south's legacy? They were met with counter-protesters and what happened thereafter to get it all going, I don't know. I live in the south now, and I'm telling you that "southern pride" is NOT about slavery. It's about the price paid in war and what happened after the war. But the left makes it all about slavery.

They targeted the wrong statue to take down. I was born in Indiana and moved to Florida for my mother's health. General Lee was and is very beloved in the South for the kind of person he was. He stood head and shoulders above all other generals North and South for integrity and honesty. Tearing his statue down was downright ignorant and foolish. No other Civil War general was admired as much for the type of man he was.
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Misty » 13 Aug 2017 4:06 am wrote:
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You mean like this Democrap method??

The following is a list of 20 examples of leftist violence or threats:

http://www.wnd.com/2017/06/20-times-vio ... GVxrLkz.99

1) Rioters at UC-Berkeley turned violent in order to shut down a pro-Trump speech by Milo Yiannopoulos.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/02/01/ri ... -talk.html

2) Radical leftists maced an innocent young girl as she was interviewed.

http://abc7news.com/news/video-trump-su ... t/1733004/

3) Berkeley’s communist mayor likely let it all happen.

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/04/2 ... zed-riots/

4) Top Democrat Tim Kaine called for a “fight in the streets” against Trump.

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/01/ ... ets-trump/

5) Kaine’s own radical, left-wing son got into trouble for following those instructions.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... rump-riot/

6) Radical leftists have posted fliers around college campuses promoting violence against Trump supporters.

https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=8803

7) “Antifa” groups who put up these fliers even have targeted journalists.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/04 ... iec-video/

8) Demonstrators attacked the mount of a police officer during a protest event.

http://fox43.com/2017/06/12/demonstrato ... arrisburg/

9) Liberal journalists like Vox’s Emmett Rensin defend such acts.

https://www.chicksontheright.com/vox-ed ... ump-rally/

10) Leftist professors issued calls to violence.

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/04/08 ... democracy/

11) Celebs Kathy Griffin and Jerry Seinfeld become echo chambers for the calls to violence.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/ ... fin-photo/

12) Music industry leaders, like Snoop Dogg, join in.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/ent ... /99139774/

13) Left-leaning insiders in the theater also joined in.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/ ... r-outrage/

14) Obama favorite Loretta Lynch called for “marching, blood, death in the streets.”

http://www.wnd.com/2017/03/loretta-lync ... n-streets/

15) “Antifa” protesters attacked Trump supporters in another riot at Berkeley.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... story.html

16) A far-left professor, Eric Clanton, was arrested for assaulting Trump supporters with a bike lock after a riot.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... ted-in-vi/

17) Multiple times, attackers struck during Trump campaign events.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mor ... ide-rally/

18) Attacks even happened at events marking Trump’s inauguration.

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/02/1 ... ploraball/

19) Liberal celebrities, like Charlie Sheen, have called for Trump’s death.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... roach.html

20) Liberal actress Sarah Silverman even called for a coup.

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/02/02 ... nst-trump/
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Charlottesville Was Not a “Protest Turned Violent,” It Was a Planned Race Riot

[......]

In the case of Charlottesville, media outlets are being careless with words, whitewashing the intentions and the actions of White nationalist protestors.

The “Unite the Right rally” stopped being a rally sometime Friday night when a stream of torch carrying White supremacists arrived at night to the University of Virginia campus chanting “blood and soil.”

They used those torches as weapons in fights with counter-protesters.

On Saturday, NBC said, “Charlottesville rally turned deadly.”

CNN said, “1 dead, 19 injured after crash near Unite the Right rally.”

What took place was not a rally.

Who wears paramilitary gear and carries automatic weapons to a rally?

Who takes shields and helmets and pepper spray and bats and sticks to a rally?

The car didn’t “crash”— it was driven at full speed into a crowd of counter-protesters.

What happened in Charlottesville was White nationalist extremists inciting a riot.

We cannot unite, come together, overcome, Kumbaya, or whatever else, until we get some truth-telling.

Media professionals need to get it right this time.

It is also the responsibility of those of us who are anti-racist not to be silent in this time.

Call out every media outlet that is soft-selling White supremacy and sidestepping the ugly truth.

Nothing less is acceptable.

This milquetoast coverage lets White nationalists off the hook, even when the dithering commentary comes from President Trump.

His statement about being against violence “on many sides” stopped short of calling out the domestic terrorism of the White men who carried out acts of violence on American citizens today.

Walking away when you’re asked if you denounce these actors is the definition of cowardice.

Trump managed to anger both “sides,” Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke as well as anti-racists.

What side are you on?

Are you on the side that makes excuses for and sanitizes these acts and actors by calling them misunderstood Americans, the “alt” right, misguided, upset, fringe, and whatever other name might diminish the outright terrorism these people are perpetrating.

Or are you on the side that calls bullshit on anti-Black, anti-Native, anti-Jewish racism, bigotry, and xenophobia—and the White supremacist domestic terrorists who marched on Charlotte to shed some blood.

Refute my above post 14091 dipshit!!!

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indago » 13 Aug 2017 8:36 am wrote:
Termin8tor » 13 Aug 2017 8:28 am wrote:
Huey » 13 Aug 2017 8:18 am wrote:
Misty is priceless. She is taking the word of one she claims is an idiot.


She'll accept any source that supports her Democrat Talking Point Lies, no matter how absurd.

Here is the comment again:

We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides," Trump said during a short statement from his private golf club in New Jersey. "It has been going on for a long time in our country -- not Donald Trump, not Barack Obama. It has been going on for a long, long time. It has no place in America."


That's code words for,"I'm a racist. Thanks for coming!" :rofl: :rofl:


Point out, in that statement, where you see "I'm a racist. Thanks for coming!"

Your mere existence is proof of racism. :die: :clap: :die:
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Misty » 13 Aug 2017 12:14 pm wrote:
Charlottesville Was Not a “Protest Turned Violent,” It Was a Planned Race Riot

[......]

In the case of Charlottesville, media outlets are being careless with words, whitewashing the intentions and the actions of White nationalist protestors.

The “Unite the Right rally” stopped being a rally sometime Friday night when a stream of torch carrying White supremacists arrived at night to the University of Virginia campus chanting “blood and soil.”

They used those torches as weapons in fights with counter-protesters.

On Saturday, NBC said, “Charlottesville rally turned deadly.”

CNN said, “1 dead, 19 injured after crash near Unite the Right rally.”

What took place was not a rally.

Who wears paramilitary gear and carries automatic weapons to a rally?

Who takes shields and helmets and pepper spray and bats and sticks to a rally?

The car didn’t “crash”— it was driven at full speed into a crowd of counter-protesters.

What happened in Charlottesville was White nationalist extremists inciting a riot.

We cannot unite, come together, overcome, Kumbaya, or whatever else, until we get some truth-telling.

Media professionals need to get it right this time.

It is also the responsibility of those of us who are anti-racist not to be silent in this time.

Call out every media outlet that is soft-selling White supremacy and sidestepping the ugly truth.

Nothing less is acceptable.

This milquetoast coverage lets White nationalists off the hook, even when the dithering commentary comes from President Trump.

His statement about being against violence “on many sides” stopped short of calling out the domestic terrorism of the White men who carried out acts of violence on American citizens today.

Walking away when you’re asked if you denounce these actors is the definition of cowardice.

Trump managed to anger both “sides,” Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke as well as anti-racists.

What side are you on?

Are you on the side that makes excuses for and sanitizes these acts and actors by calling them misunderstood Americans, the “alt” right, misguided, upset, fringe, and whatever other name might diminish the outright terrorism these people are perpetrating.

Or are you on the side that calls bullshit on anti-Black, anti-Native, anti-Jewish racism, bigotry, and xenophobia—and the White supremacist domestic terrorists who marched on Charlotte to shed some blood.

Explain why the far leftwing moonbats always name call conservatives. You use disgusting labels and then wonder why a thinking conservative person says BULLSHIT!!!

It is obvious that thinking people reject the ad hominem attacks the leftwing moonbats use. All of the name calling to which a reasonable person will say BULLSHIT!!!!

MISTY IS FULL OF BULLSHIT!!!!
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The left just loves to throw around disgusting names. NAZI is often used by the left and if a reasonable person thinks about what it implies they will be disgusted with the name caller. Behind that name is the holocaust killing millions of Jews, gypsies, and other people the NAZI hated. They were attempting to create the Aryan super race.
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Misty » 13 Aug 2017 4:38 pm wrote:
Termin8tor » 13 Aug 2017 12:19 pm wrote:
That's an awful lot of blabbering for a tiny, irrelevant group of racist wackjobs.
Democrat Talking Point Liars like you are trying to claim they represent Trump and most of his supporter.s

Tiny and irrelevant? LOL
Been on the internet lately?

I never said they represent MOST of his supporters jackass.
I have said repeatedly that they make up PART of his base, and they do.

And that's because unlike Republicans in the past he has constantly refused to denounce them and tell them that they are not welcome in the Republican Party.
But then he's not a Republican so.....

Never mind all the talk about how he used a dog whistle to attract them, he used a fucking bullhorn.

All of those ad hominem fallacious attacks in one post. Going for a record???
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Misty » 13 Aug 2017 6:18 pm wrote:
Trump picked a perfect time to go back to Trump Tower for the first time since he took office.
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20 TIMES VIOLENCE THREATENED, USED, IN WAKE OF DEMS' POLITICAL COLLAPSE
Top party official called for 'violence, death, blood in the streets'
Published: 06/14/2017 at 3:53 PM

http://www.wnd.com/2017/06/20-times-vio ... l-collapse

WASHINGTON – There is no doubt that politics in the United States now include a level of violence not seen in recent memory.

It comes as factions of the Democratic Party have proven unable to accept the fact their candidate for president, now twice-failed Hillary Clinton, lost a decisive election to the GOP candidate, Donald Trump, in 2016.

It means they are not able to continue pushing the nation in a far-left progressive direction, as they did over and over again under Barack Obama.

What do YOU think? What’s the most important lesson of Wednesday’s shooting attack? Sound off in today’s WND poll!

Even during the campaign, Trump supporters faced physical beatings. They continue to face violence at “resist” protests around the country even now, as those Democrats have moved over and over to deny Trump the rights of the office.

Wednesday, Republican Rep. Steve Scalise and several congressional aides were shot during baseball practice in Alexandria, Virginia, as they prepared to participate in a charity game.

Gunman Opens Fire at Republican Members of Congress
Noah Nathan films shootout at an Alexandria, Virginia park that wounded House Majority Whip Steve Scalise.

Reports indicate the attack likely was politically motivated, as the event was entirely filled with Republicans. The shooter was identified as John T. Hodgkinson, an apparent Bernie Sanders supporter from Illinois, and he reportedly asked for the victims’ political affiliation before shooting.

The shooting, which left the victims injured and the attacker dead, may be the worst such politically linked violence in recent weeks, but it’s far from the first.

Or only.

The following is a list of 20 examples of leftist violence or threats:

http://www.wnd.com/2017/06/20-times-vio ... GVxrLkz.99

1) Rioters at UC-Berkeley turned violent in order to shut down a pro-Trump speech by Milo Yiannopoulos.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/02/01/ri ... -talk.html

2) Radical leftists maced an innocent young girl as she was interviewed.

http://abc7news.com/news/video-trump-su ... t/1733004/

3) Berkeley’s communist mayor likely let it all happen.

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/04/2 ... zed-riots/

4) Top Democrat Tim Kaine called for a “fight in the streets” against Trump.

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/01/ ... ets-trump/

5) Kaine’s own radical, left-wing son got into trouble for following those instructions.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... rump-riot/

6) Radical leftists have posted fliers around college campuses promoting violence against Trump supporters.

https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=8803

7) “Antifa” groups who put up these fliers even have targeted journalists.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/04 ... iec-video/

8) Demonstrators attacked the mount of a police officer during a protest event.

http://fox43.com/2017/06/12/demonstrato ... arrisburg/

9) Liberal journalists like Vox’s Emmett Rensin defend such acts.

https://www.chicksontheright.com/vox-ed ... ump-rally/

10) Leftist professors issued calls to violence.

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/04/08 ... democracy/

11) Celebs Kathy Griffin and Jerry Seinfeld become echo chambers for the calls to violence.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/ ... fin-photo/

12) Music industry leaders, like Snoop Dogg, join in.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/ent ... /99139774/

13) Left-leaning insiders in the theater also joined in.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/ ... r-outrage/

14) Obama favorite Loretta Lynch called for “marching, blood, death in the streets.”

http://www.wnd.com/2017/03/loretta-lync ... n-streets/

15) “Antifa” protesters attacked Trump supporters in another riot at Berkeley.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... story.html

16) A far-left professor, Eric Clanton, was arrested for assaulting Trump supporters with a bike lock after a riot.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... ted-in-vi/

17) Multiple times, attackers struck during Trump campaign events.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mor ... ide-rally/

18) Attacks even happened at events marking Trump’s inauguration.

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/02/1 ... ploraball/

19) Liberal celebrities, like Charlie Sheen, have called for Trump’s death.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... roach.html

20) Liberal actress Sarah Silverman even called for a coup.

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/02/02 ... nst-trump/

To really understand the war zone America is becoming, read the June issue of WND’s acclaimed monthly Whistleblower magazine, “RAGE AND VIOLENCE: Why the Left has gone insane in the Age of Trump.”
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Misty » 14 Aug 2017 5:59 pm wrote:
From Ronald Reagan's address at the annual NAACP convention in 1981.

A few isolated groups in the backwater of American life still hold perverted notions of what America is all about.

Recently, in some places in the nation there's been a disturbing reoccurrence of bigotry and violence.

If I may, from the platform of this organization, known for its tolerance, I would like to address a few remarks to those groups who still adhere to senseless racism and religious prejudice, to those individuals who persist in such hateful behavior.

If I were speaking to them instead of to you, I would say to them, "You are the ones who are out of step with our society.

You are the ones who willfully violate the meaning of the dream that is America.

And this country, because of what it stands for, will not stand for your conduct."

My Administration will vigorously investigate and prosecute those who, by violation of -- or violence or intimidation, would attempt to deny Americans their constitutional rights.


He must be spinning in his grave.



You should be whining, idiot. He didn't call the groups by name.

This what happens when you are too stupid to think for yourseif
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Misty » 13 Aug 2017 4:38 pm wrote:
Termin8tor » 13 Aug 2017 12:19 pm wrote:
That's an awful lot of blabbering for a tiny, irrelevant group of racist wackjobs.
Democrat Talking Point Liars like you are trying to claim they represent Trump and most of his supporter.s

Tiny and irrelevant? LOL
Been on the internet lately?

I never said they represent MOST of his supporters jackass.
I have said repeatedly that they make up PART of his base, and they do.

And that's because unlike Republicans in the past he has constantly refused to denounce them and tell them that they are not welcome in the Republican Party.
But then he's not a Republican so.....

Never mind all the talk about how he used a dog whistle to attract them, he used a fucking bullhorn.

Misty has her head up her rear again. Trump has denounced the violent actions of the leftwing moonbat organizations. You then try to blame all violence on Republicans. You ignore the violence by your side!!! Here is a list of 20 different examples of leftwing moonbat violence. Refute these if you can. The simple fact is the far left is violence prone. Just look at what happens on college campuses when a conservative is to speak there. Left Wing Moonbats get very violent every time. Free exchange of ideas is not allowed!!!!

20 TIMES VIOLENCE THREATENED, USED, IN WAKE OF DEMS' POLITICAL COLLAPSE
Top party official called for 'violence, death, blood in the streets'
Published: 06/14/2017 at 3:53 PM

http://www.wnd.com/2017/06/20-times-vio ... l-collapse

WASHINGTON – There is no doubt that politics in the United States now include a level of violence not seen in recent memory.

It comes as factions of the Democratic Party have proven unable to accept the fact their candidate for president, now twice-failed Hillary Clinton, lost a decisive election to the GOP candidate, Donald Trump, in 2016.

It means they are not able to continue pushing the nation in a far-left progressive direction, as they did over and over again under Barack Obama.

What do YOU think? What’s the most important lesson of Wednesday’s shooting attack? Sound off in today’s WND poll!

Even during the campaign, Trump supporters faced physical beatings. They continue to face violence at “resist” protests around the country even now, as those Democrats have moved over and over to deny Trump the rights of the office.

Wednesday, Republican Rep. Steve Scalise and several congressional aides were shot during baseball practice in Alexandria, Virginia, as they prepared to participate in a charity game.

Gunman Opens Fire at Republican Members of Congress
Noah Nathan films shootout at an Alexandria, Virginia park that wounded House Majority Whip Steve Scalise.

Reports indicate the attack likely was politically motivated, as the event was entirely filled with Republicans. The shooter was identified as John T. Hodgkinson, an apparent Bernie Sanders supporter from Illinois, and he reportedly asked for the victims’ political affiliation before shooting.

The shooting, which left the victims injured and the attacker dead, may be the worst such politically linked violence in recent weeks, but it’s far from the first.

Or only.

The following is a list of 20 examples of leftist violence or threats:

http://www.wnd.com/2017/06/20-times-vio ... GVxrLkz.99

1) Rioters at UC-Berkeley turned violent in order to shut down a pro-Trump speech by Milo Yiannopoulos.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/02/01/ri ... -talk.html

2) Radical leftists maced an innocent young girl as she was interviewed.

http://abc7news.com/news/video-trump-su ... t/1733004/

3) Berkeley’s communist mayor likely let it all happen.

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/04/2 ... zed-riots/

4) Top Democrat Tim Kaine called for a “fight in the streets” against Trump.

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/01/ ... ets-trump/

5) Kaine’s own radical, left-wing son got into trouble for following those instructions.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... rump-riot/

6) Radical leftists have posted fliers around college campuses promoting violence against Trump supporters.

https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=8803

7) “Antifa” groups who put up these fliers even have targeted journalists.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/04 ... iec-video/

8) Demonstrators attacked the mount of a police officer during a protest event.

http://fox43.com/2017/06/12/demonstrato ... arrisburg/

9) Liberal journalists like Vox’s Emmett Rensin defend such acts.

https://www.chicksontheright.com/vox-ed ... ump-rally/

10) Leftist professors issued calls to violence.

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/04/08 ... democracy/

11) Celebs Kathy Griffin and Jerry Seinfeld become echo chambers for the calls to violence.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/ ... fin-photo/

12) Music industry leaders, like Snoop Dogg, join in.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/ent ... /99139774/

13) Left-leaning insiders in the theater also joined in.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/ ... r-outrage/

14) Obama favorite Loretta Lynch called for “marching, blood, death in the streets.”

http://www.wnd.com/2017/03/loretta-lync ... n-streets/

15) “Antifa” protesters attacked Trump supporters in another riot at Berkeley.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... story.html

16) A far-left professor, Eric Clanton, was arrested for assaulting Trump supporters with a bike lock after a riot.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... ted-in-vi/

17) Multiple times, attackers struck during Trump campaign events.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mor ... ide-rally/

18) Attacks even happened at events marking Trump’s inauguration.

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/02/1 ... ploraball/

19) Liberal celebrities, like Charlie Sheen, have called for Trump’s death.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... roach.html

20) Liberal actress Sarah Silverman even called for a coup.

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/02/02 ... nst-trump/

To really understand the war zone America is becoming, read the June issue of WND’s acclaimed monthly Whistleblower magazine, “RAGE AND VIOLENCE: Why the Left has gone insane in the Age of Trump.”
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Misty » 15 Aug 2017 12:14 am wrote:
Termin8tor » 14 Aug 2017 11:57 pm wrote:
Misty » 14 Aug 2017 5:42 pm wrote:
Trump says blame for Charlottesville is "on many sides."
Oh my gosh, how dare he tell the truth!
The blame was on many sides, psycho.

No it wasn't jackhole.
The blame was on the white supremacists and neo-Nazis who invaded the city of Charlottesville to provoke a riot.

People don't dress this way to peacefully protest.

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Sounds like the retard had the blinders on while the lefties dressed the same.
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