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Posted by Cannonpointer
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The last republican fiscal conservative was eisenhower.

The last dem fiscal conservative was bubba clinton.

Blaaaaaaaa!!!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Herman Two Feather » 30 Apr 2015 2:25 am wrote:
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Not at all. It makes me laugh at the stupidity of some liberals/progs who do not understand that the President does not pass budget bills. Last time I checked, and regardless of how hard the current crop of politicians wish to change it, the consitution mandates that spending bills originate in congress. THe President does in fact send a budget REQUEST to congress. For Cannon to prove his point he must show that CONGRESS did not INCREASE the money requested by the Executive branch.

Pretty little graphs and talking point headlines do not prove his case. Remember, Reagan shut down government at least 6 times because of democrat additions to the budget.

Additionally, with an election around the corner, both the Establishment GOP and the Progressive/Liberal Dems need to tarnish the record of reagan as candidates emerge to fight against both sides.

Let me get my beer and popcorn and enjoy this show. :clap:
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onlyaladd » 09 Nov 2016 9:37 am wrote:
Notice all the low performing, uneducated states swung this election? Why should those who have failed lead those who succeeded?
Time to go to popular vote. Now you deplorables get to joyfully defend the biggest liar in political history for 4 years.
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
Good luck morons, you asked for this.

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I gotta give cred for a sourced chart! good job.

charts do not tell the whole story, sorry.
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Huey » 30 Apr 2015 5:16 am wrote:
Not at all. It makes me laugh at the stupidity of some liberals/progs who do not understand that the President does not pass budget bills. Last time I checked, and regardless of how hard the current crop of politicians wish to change it, the consitution mandates that spending bills originate in congress. THe President does in fact send a budget REQUEST to congress. For Cannon to prove his point he must show that CONGRESS did not INCREASE the money requested by the Executive branch.

Pretty little graphs and talking point headlines do not prove his case. Remember, Reagan shut down government at least 6 times because of democrat additions to the budget.


Bwahahaha!!!! Your talking points aren't worth the shit that your gums reek of, sony.

REAGAN SAW EIGHT shutdowns, not six, during his destruction of America.

Reagan's first (11-20-81) lasted 2 days. Then Reagan caved.

His second (9-30-81) lasted 1 day, and it was a fucking ACCIDENT. Reagan had nothing to do with it! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

His third (12-17-82) lasted 3 days. He caved.

His fourth (11-10-83) lasted 3 days. Both sides gave substantially.

His fifth (9-30-84) lasted 2 days. It ended with a short term funding bill to allow for further negotiations - no winner no loser: an agreement to roll up the sleeves. That agreement failed, leading to:

His sixth (10-3-84) lasted 1 day. Reagan substantially won, getting the lion's share of what he wanted while congress got little of what it wanted.

His seventh (10-16-86) lasted 1 day. The congress substantially lost the standoff, getting little of what it wanted.

His eighth and final (12-18-87) lasted 1 day. Neither side emerged victorious - both had to give roughly equally.

In seven meskin standoffs and one polish stand-down, Reagan saw a total of 14 days of government shutdown. In contrast, Clinton had only two shutdowns, back to back, but they lasted 26 days total. The republicans caved, and AFTER they caved, Clinton gave them what they wanted. The single issue was whose numbers to use in the next 7 budgets - the CBO's, or the more optimistic OMB's that Reagan and Bush before him had used. AFTER the republicans caved in on the issue, Clinton gallantly tied his budgets thenceforth to the CBO. Being a fiscal conservative unlike Reagan, Clinton's budgets actually resulted in budget SURPLUSES. That means we took in more than we spent and ran the country without borrowing - something no republican has ever done. "Paygo" is something republicans TALK about. When the dems control the congress, republicans spend like drunken sailors. When REPUBLICANS control the congress, they spend like Kardashians taking paris hilton to the spenderia for some spending spend time to spend and stuff spendspend.

Spend.

You need to learn to do your own research instead of letting right wing morons misdirect you, sonny. Here's a link to every shutdown in the history of history.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/won ... hey-ended/

I do my research through a process called, "googling," which starts here: www/duckduckgo.com

But drinking koolaid is a perfectly legitimate technique for dimwits. I guess it's just a matter of personal preference.

Huey » 30 Apr 2015 5:16 am wrote:
Additionally, with an election around the corner, both the Establishment GOP and the Progressive/Liberal Dems need to tarnish the record of reagan as candidates emerge to fight against both sides.


BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

THE ONLY REPUKE WITH THE BALLS TO CALL REAGAN OUT IS RAND PAUL - THE ESTABLISHMENT CANDIDATES ARE RIDING REAGAN'S NUTSAC RIGHT BESIDE YOU, BALL BOY! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Cannonpointer » 30 Apr 2015 5:57 am wrote:

Bwahahaha!!!! Your talking points aren't worth the shit that your gums reek of, sony.

REAGAN SAW EIGHT shutdowns, not six, during his destruction of America.

Reagan's first (11-20-81) lasted 2 days. Then Reagan caved.

His second (9-30-81) lasted 1 day, and it was a fucking ACCIDENT. Reagan had nothing to do with it! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

His third (12-17-82) lasted 3 days. He caved.

His fourth (11-10-83) lasted 3 days. Both sides gave substantially.

His fifth (9-30-84) lasted 2 days. It ended with a short term funding bill to allow for further negotiations - no winner no loser: an agreement to roll up the sleeves. That agreement failed, leading to:

His sixth (10-3-84) lasted 1 day. Reagan substantially won, getting the lion's share of what he wanted while congress got little of what it wanted.

His seventh (10-16-86) lasted 1 day. The congress substantially lost the standoff, getting little of what it wanted.

His eighth and final (12-18-87) lasted 1 day. Neither side emerged victorious - both had to give roughly equally.

In seven meskin standoffs and one polish stand-down, Reagan saw a total of 14 days of government shutdown. In contrast, Clinton had only two shutdowns, back to back, but they lasted 26 days total. The republicans caved, and AFTER they caved, Clinton gave them what they wanted. The single issue was whose numbers to use in the next 7 budgets - the CBO's, or the more optimistic OMB's that Reagan and Bush before him had used. AFTER the republicans caved in on the issue, Clinton gallantly tied his budgets thenceforth to the CBO. Being a fiscal conservative unlike Reagan, Clinton's budgets actually resulted in budget SURPLUSES. That means we took in more than we spent and ran the country without borrowing - something no republican has ever done. "Paygo" is something republicans TALK about. When the dems control the congress, republicans spend like drunken sailors. When REPUBLICANS control the congress, they spend like Kardashians taking paris hilton to the spenderia for some spending spend time to spend and stuff spendspend.

Spend.

You need to learn to do your own research instead of letting right wing morons misdirect you, sonny. Here's a link to every shutdown in the history of history.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/won ... hey-ended/

I do my research through a process called, "googling," which starts here: www/duckduckgo.com

But drinking koolaid is a perfectly legitimate technique for dimwits. I guess it's just a matter of personal preference.



BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

THE ONLY REPUKE WITH THE BALLS TO CALL REAGAN OUT IS RAND PAUL - THE ESTABLISHMENT CANDIDATES ARE RIDING REAGAN'S NUTSAC RIGHT BESIDE YOU, BALL BOY! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


REAGAN SAW EIGHT shutdowns, not six, during his destruction of America.



Speed reading is not a skill that SF has mastered. What does at least six mean to you? :loco:

Notice SF not once addressed the main point that congress is responsible for spending. Not one time.

Pass the pop corn. This is about to get entertaining. Revisions of history for political gain usually do.
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onlyaladd » 09 Nov 2016 9:37 am wrote:
Notice all the low performing, uneducated states swung this election? Why should those who have failed lead those who succeeded?
Time to go to popular vote. Now you deplorables get to joyfully defend the biggest liar in political history for 4 years.
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
Good luck morons, you asked for this.

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Huey » 30 Apr 2015 6:19 am wrote:

Speed reading is not a skill that SF has mastered. What does at least six mean to you? :loco:

Notice SF not once addressed the main point that congress is responsible for spending. Not one time.

Pass the pop corn. This is about to get entertaining. Revisions of history for political gain usually do.


Oh, little homosexual. do you REALLY believe that you can posture up about your cowboy shutting down the government AND blame the congress at the same time? If you are trying to admit that Reagan's bluster was purely for show, then well done, child - well done.

But while you're in the confession mood, does that mean that the repuke congress which created new entitlements and cut taxes while waging two credit card wars was responsible for doubling the debt - not the chimpanzee?

And does that make Obama equally innocent, oh double standard girl? :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:
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Cannonpointer » 30 Apr 2015 6:23 am wrote:

Oh, little homosexual. do you REALLY believe that you can posture up about your cowboy shutting down the government AND blame the congress at the same time? If you are trying to admit that Reagan's bluster was purely for show, then well done, child - well done.

But while you're in the confession mood, does that mean that the repuke congress which created new entitlements and cut taxes while waging two credit card wars was responsible for doubling the debt - not the chimpanzee?

And does that make Obama equally innocent, oh double standard girl? :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:



A government shutdown is the fualt of both sides.

Spending bills originate in Congress.

I need more beer. And the popcorn is stale. Same bait and switch from SF.
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Notice all the low performing, uneducated states swung this election? Why should those who have failed lead those who succeeded?
Time to go to popular vote. Now you deplorables get to joyfully defend the biggest liar in political history for 4 years.
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
Good luck morons, you asked for this.

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Huey » 30 Apr 2015 6:29 am wrote:

A government shutdown is the fualt of both sides.

Spending bills originate in Congress.

I need more beer. And the popcorn is stale. Same bait and switch from SF.


Oh, lookie. A homosexual yelling bait and switch just made my OP go away! DANG IT!

Oh, wait. No it didn't! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


Cannonpointer » 30 Apr 2015 2:13 am wrote:
http://mercatus.org/publication/high-levels-government-spending-become-status-quo


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socially centered » 30 Apr 2015 5:56 am wrote:
I gotta give cred for a sourced chart! good job.

charts do not tell the whole story, sorry.


They certainly do not, child. If they did, Reagan would have died in prison where he belonged.

But they do give an overview - and they show what a bunch of meme spewing retards the reagan girls are.
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Huey » 30 Apr 2015 5:16 am wrote:
Additionally, with an election around the corner, both the Establishment GOP and the Progressive/Liberal Dems need to tarnish the record of reagan as candidates emerge to fight against both sides.


Gosh, I would have expected by now the rest area deviant would NAME NAMES.

Who are the "Establishment" republicans disrespecting reagan, shit-mouth? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Stand by for GOAL POSTS ON WHEELS, FOLKS! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

On three, WHEEDLE AND BACKDANCE! GO! THREE! :die:
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Cannonpointer » 30 Apr 2015 7:36 am wrote:

Oh, lookie. A homosexual yelling bait and switch just made my OP go away! DANG IT!

Oh, wait. No it didn't! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:




Pass the butter please.....

Spending bills must pass congress. So any budget that a President sends to congress that congress adds to is the fault of whom?

I don't expect an honest answer. You have an agenda. Instead of discussing today's issues you try to revise history to make your candidates look better.
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onlyaladd » 09 Nov 2016 9:37 am wrote:
Notice all the low performing, uneducated states swung this election? Why should those who have failed lead those who succeeded?
Time to go to popular vote. Now you deplorables get to joyfully defend the biggest liar in political history for 4 years.
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
Good luck morons, you asked for this.

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Cannonpointer » 30 Apr 2015 7:41 am wrote:

Gosh, I would have expected by now the rest area deviant would NAME NAMES.

Who are the "Establishment" republicans disrespecting reagan, shit-mouth? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Stand by for GOAL POSTS ON WHEELS, FOLKS! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

On three, WHEEDLE AND BACKDANCE! GO! THREE! :die:


Sorry, You are in charge of goal post maintenance. That's why you are not man enough to start a thread with peanut gallery. So you can control the discussion.
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onlyaladd » 09 Nov 2016 9:37 am wrote:
Notice all the low performing, uneducated states swung this election? Why should those who have failed lead those who succeeded?
Time to go to popular vote. Now you deplorables get to joyfully defend the biggest liar in political history for 4 years.
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
Good luck morons, you asked for this.

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Huey » 30 Apr 2015 10:53 am wrote:

Sorry, You are in charge of goal post maintenance. That's why you are not man enough to start a thread with peanut gallery. So you can control the discussion. :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah:


Bed wetters cry about good housekeeping - they feel threatened by it.

In some shithole where anything goes, you can piss up the place and stink up the place - no problem, and who will even notice? Half the niggers on the board are right there with you, mouth shitting as you cock lovers are wont.

But I maintain my threads against the excesses of faggots and shills, sonny. So cry, baby, cry. I am certainly "man enough" to not give a shit what some homo like yourself thinks of me, :LOL: :wave:
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Huey » 30 Apr 2015 10:52 am wrote:
You have an agenda. :wah:


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

These faggots are veritable FONTS of irony!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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One has to wonder if Tommy is intelligent enough to know what FDR was referring to, when he talked about the "big stick".


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I always admit when I'm wrong.

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Cannonpointer » 30 Apr 2015 10:52 pm wrote:

Bed wetters cry about good housekeeping - they feel threatened by it.

In some shithole where anything goes, you can piss up the place and stink up the place - no problem, and who will even notice? Half the niggers on the board are right there with you, mouth shitting as you cock lovers are wont.

But I maintain my threads against the excesses of faggots and shills, sonny. So cry, baby, cry. I am certainly "man enough" to not give a shit what some homo like yourself thinks of me, :LOL: :wave:



Why all the hatred on homosexuals? You are not allowed to disriminate based on homosexuality.
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onlyaladd » 09 Nov 2016 9:37 am wrote:
Notice all the low performing, uneducated states swung this election? Why should those who have failed lead those who succeeded?
Time to go to popular vote. Now you deplorables get to joyfully defend the biggest liar in political history for 4 years.
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
Good luck morons, you asked for this.

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Huey » 30 Apr 2015 10:52 am wrote:

Pass the butter please.....

Spending bills must pass congress. So any budget that a President sends to congress that congress adds to is the fault of whom?

I don't expect an honest answer. You have an agenda. Instead of discussing today's issues you try to revise history to make your candidates look better.



Cannonpointer » 30 Apr 2015 10:54 pm wrote:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

These faggots are veritable FONTS of irony!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


Notice how, as he complains about switching goalposts, he ignores the point that budgets must pass thru congress in his effort to revise history.
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onlyaladd » 09 Nov 2016 9:37 am wrote:
Notice all the low performing, uneducated states swung this election? Why should those who have failed lead those who succeeded?
Time to go to popular vote. Now you deplorables get to joyfully defend the biggest liar in political history for 4 years.
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
Good luck morons, you asked for this.

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Huey » 01 May 2015 7:57 am wrote:
Why all the hatred on homosexuals? You are not allowed to disriminate based on homosexuality.


I only hate on CLOSET dick suckers, Lucinda. :ninja: :ninja: :ninja: :ninja:
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Humanity's law of the jungle: survival of the tribe
Money is a theory until spent - then a value statement


When your map disputes the territory, it's your map that is wrong.
Where there's much sizzle, expect little steak
Honesty is intentional - lies are the lazy way out


Nostalgia is a crime against what happened
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me



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