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Posted by indago
  11,186 17 Jul 2017, 8:44 am

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Sgt Bilko » 17 Jul 2017 8:27 am wrote:
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Sgt Bilko » 17 Jul 2017 7:49 am wrote:
Your ignorance is sticking out all over. Look up the word budget idiot!!! You need remedial lessons in the English language obviously!!! Go back to your whale dung pile and figure out the meaning of the word budget!!!


TEFRA was created in order to reduce the budget gap

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It is getting very obvious that English is a second or third language for you. You keep messing up basic definitions of words. Where in that law was each item of spending spelled out!!!! Back to the definition of the word budget dipshit!!! Why is that so hard to understand.

budget

finance
a : a statement of the financial position of an administration (as of a nation) for a definite period of time based on estimates of expenditures during the period and proposals for financing them

b : a plan for the coordination of resources and expenditures

c : the amount of money that is available for, required for, or assigned to a particular purpose

This countries budget has thousands of line items.

That law you referenced was not a BUDGET LAW!!!


The point being, that you had stated that the budget bill was to originate in the House of Representatives. I noted that TEFRA was to be originated in the House of Representatives, but it was not. So, a budget bill could just as easily NOT originate in the House of Representatives.
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Posted by bigsky
  1,621 17 Jul 2017, 8:56 am

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indago » 17 Jul 2017 8:44 am wrote:

The point being, that you had stated that the budget bill was to originate in the House of Representatives. I noted that TEFRA was to be originated in the House of Representatives, but it was not. So, a budget bill could just as easily NOT originate in the House of Representatives.

Constitutionally?
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Posted by indago
  11,186 17 Jul 2017, 9:21 am

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bigsky » 17 Jul 2017 8:56 am wrote:
indago » 17 Jul 2017 8:44 am wrote:

The point being, that you had stated that the budget bill was to originate in the House of Representatives. I noted that TEFRA was to be originated in the House of Representatives, but it was not. So, a budget bill could just as easily NOT originate in the House of Representatives.

Constitutionally?


Not "Constitutionally", but they do it anyway.
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Posted by Sgt Bilko
  15,755 17 Jul 2017, 9:33 am

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indago » 17 Jul 2017 8:44 am wrote:
Sgt Bilko » 17 Jul 2017 8:27 am wrote:
indago » 17 Jul 2017 8:09 am wrote:

TEFRA was created in order to reduce the budget gap

article

It is getting very obvious that English is a second or third language for you. You keep messing up basic definitions of words. Where in that law was each item of spending spelled out!!!! Back to the definition of the word budget dipshit!!! Why is that so hard to understand.

budget

finance
a : a statement of the financial position of an administration (as of a nation) for a definite period of time based on estimates of expenditures during the period and proposals for financing them

b : a plan for the coordination of resources and expenditures

c : the amount of money that is available for, required for, or assigned to a particular purpose

This countries budget has thousands of line items.

That law you referenced was not a BUDGET LAW!!!


The point being, that you had stated that the budget bill was to originate in the House of Representatives. I noted that TEFRA was to be originated in the House of Representatives, but it was not. So, a budget bill could just as easily NOT originate in the House of Representatives.

The budget is part of this section.
Article 1
Section. 7.
All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.

An adjustment to taxing can be created in either house. The main unadjusted bill must originate in the house.
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Posted by Sgt Bilko
  15,755 17 Jul 2017, 9:36 am

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indago » 17 Jul 2017 8:44 am wrote:
Sgt Bilko » 17 Jul 2017 8:27 am wrote:
indago » 17 Jul 2017 8:09 am wrote:

TEFRA was created in order to reduce the budget gap

article

It is getting very obvious that English is a second or third language for you. You keep messing up basic definitions of words. Where in that law was each item of spending spelled out!!!! Back to the definition of the word budget dipshit!!! Why is that so hard to understand.

budget

finance
a : a statement of the financial position of an administration (as of a nation) for a definite period of time based on estimates of expenditures during the period and proposals for financing them

b : a plan for the coordination of resources and expenditures

c : the amount of money that is available for, required for, or assigned to a particular purpose

This countries budget has thousands of line items.

That law you referenced was not a BUDGET LAW!!!


The point being, that you had stated that the budget bill was to originate in the House of Representatives. I noted that TEFRA was to be originated in the House of Representatives, but it was not. So, a budget bill could just as easily NOT originate in the House of Representatives.

Read the Constitution Article 1 Section 7
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i really want to thank prez reagan for releasing me from the chains of liberalism

as a snowfwake carter loving libturd....reagan gave me the revelation and epiphany to start my own gig

having a boss with a thumb up everyones ass was so damn degrading.so awful being treated like a subhuman like wharfie

thanks ron........before i tee off three times a week.i look to heaven and thank you for letting me control my life and call my own shots.....................i'd hate to be on my death bed dying a dust breather

and my clients thank you for getting someone who wasn't going to give them the joey butafooko
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  11,186 17 Jul 2017, 4:54 pm

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Sgt Bilko » 17 Jul 2017 9:36 am wrote:
indago » 17 Jul 2017 8:44 am wrote:
Sgt Bilko » 17 Jul 2017 8:27 am wrote:
It is getting very obvious that English is a second or third language for you. You keep messing up basic definitions of words. Where in that law was each item of spending spelled out!!!! Back to the definition of the word budget dipshit!!! Why is that so hard to understand.

budget

finance
a : a statement of the financial position of an administration (as of a nation) for a definite period of time based on estimates of expenditures during the period and proposals for financing them

b : a plan for the coordination of resources and expenditures

c : the amount of money that is available for, required for, or assigned to a particular purpose

This countries budget has thousands of line items.

That law you referenced was not a BUDGET LAW!!!


The point being, that you had stated that the budget bill was to originate in the House of Representatives. I noted that TEFRA was to be originated in the House of Representatives, but it was not. So, a budget bill could just as easily NOT originate in the House of Representatives.

Read the Constitution Article 1 Section 7


TEFRA, a bill for raising revenue, didn't originate in the House.
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  15,755 17 Jul 2017, 5:21 pm

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indago » 17 Jul 2017 4:54 pm wrote:
Sgt Bilko » 17 Jul 2017 9:36 am wrote:
indago » 17 Jul 2017 8:44 am wrote:

The point being, that you had stated that the budget bill was to originate in the House of Representatives. I noted that TEFRA was to be originated in the House of Representatives, but it was not. So, a budget bill could just as easily NOT originate in the House of Representatives.

Read the Constitution Article 1 Section 7


TEFRA, a bill for raising revenue, didn't originate in the House.

It is obvious to the casual observer that you suffer from understanding the English language.
1. Did the bill create a tax?
2. Does the bill itemize budget items to be created?
3. Does the bill add items to the list to be taxed?

Oops
It doesn't have to be started in the house. It ONLY adjusts tax rates.
Poor poor purple idiot!!!
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Posted by bigsky
  1,621 17 Jul 2017, 6:06 pm

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indago » 17 Jul 2017 9:21 am wrote:

Not "Constitutionally", but they do it anyway.

That is OUR fault
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Posted by bigsky
  1,621 17 Jul 2017, 6:07 pm

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Sgt Bilko » 17 Jul 2017 9:33 am wrote:
The budget is part of this section.
Article 1
Section. 7.
All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.

An adjustment to taxing can be created in either house. The main unadjusted bill must originate in the house.

He is saying that the constitution LAW has been broken...and he gave an example of that transgression....pretty simple
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bigsky » 17 Jul 2017 6:07 pm wrote:
He is saying that the constitution LAW has been broken...and he gave an example of that transgression....pretty simple
Bilko has rouble with yellow in front and brown in back.

Nothing is simple to a senile chimpanzee with half nigger kids.
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  1,621 17 Jul 2017, 7:58 pm

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Cannonpointer » 17 Jul 2017 7:48 pm wrote:
Bilko has rouble with yellow in front and brown in back.

Nothing is simple to a senile chimpanzee with half nigger kids.

We are to blame when politicians do this crap...we have allowed our government to be run for us for generations...the knowledge the internet provides people might end that bull shit....if we eventually beat our partisan media corporations into submission..one of trumps feathers in his cap by my estimation
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  15,722 17 Jul 2017, 8:19 pm

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bigsky » 17 Jul 2017 7:58 pm wrote:
We are to blame when politicians do this crap...we have allowed our government to be run for us for generations...the knowledge the internet provides people might end that bull shit....if we eventually beat our partisan media corporations into submission..one of trumps feathers in his cap by my estimation
He appears an unlikely messiah.

But we have no other.
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  1,621 17 Jul 2017, 8:28 pm

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Cannonpointer » 17 Jul 2017 8:19 pm wrote:
He appears an unlikely messiah.

But we have no other.

He is no Messiah...he is a tool...our tool...our responsibility is to use the tool correctly...we usually delegate that responsibility to people that don't have our interests in mind...
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  15,755 18 Jul 2017, 4:34 am

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Cannonpointer » 17 Jul 2017 7:48 pm wrote:
bigsky » 17 Jul 2017 6:07 pm wrote:
He is saying that the constitution LAW has been broken...and he gave an example of that transgression....pretty simple
Bilko has rouble with yellow in front and brown in back.

Nothing is simple to a senile chimpanzee with half nigger kids.

You just keep on proving how despicable a person you are. Attacking my children demonstrates how low you have become!!!
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  11,186 18 Jul 2017, 6:41 am

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Sgt Bilko » 18 Jul 2017 4:34 am wrote:
Cannonpointer » 17 Jul 2017 7:48 pm wrote:
bigsky » 17 Jul 2017 6:07 pm wrote:
He is saying that the constitution LAW has been broken...and he gave an example of that transgression....pretty simple
Bilko has rouble with yellow in front and brown in back.

Nothing is simple to a senile chimpanzee with half nigger kids.

You just keep on proving how despicable a person you are. Attacking my children demonstrates how low you have become!!!


He's not "Attacking" your "children", he's attacking "a senile chimpanzee". But then, we are all aware of your "Credentials"...
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  15,755 19 Jul 2017, 4:45 am

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indago » 18 Jul 2017 6:41 am wrote:
Sgt Bilko » 18 Jul 2017 4:34 am wrote:
Cannonpointer » 17 Jul 2017 7:48 pm wrote:
Bilko has rouble with yellow in front and brown in back.

Nothing is simple to a senile chimpanzee with half nigger kids.

You just keep on proving how despicable a person you are. Attacking my children demonstrates how low you have become!!!


He's not "Attacking" your "children", he's attacking "a senile chimpanzee". But then, we are all aware of your "Credentials"...

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All I got from you were fallacious ad hominem attacks.
After trying real rhetoric and found it not responsive from you I gave up on it!!!
Ad hominem attacks seem to be the only thing left.
Therefore I will give you a dose of them every time now.
So asswipe what asses have you been Sniffing lately!!
You are the excrement on an asswipe!! Such a disgusting pervert.
Sex in the workplace for everyone to watch. You are one sick son of A Bitch!!
What an exhibitionist!!! Whores have more pride than you do!!!
It is very possible to understand how such a deviant distorted disgusting dipshit you are!!!
That understanding is fraught with the danger of the having the nauseating concepts and smell to cause the stomach to violently expel it's contents.
The only positive in that would be if you received it in your face.
But you are such a disgusting idiot you might just lick it up.
When are you going to attempt to reform yourself from the disgusting perversions you practice!!!

Suck My ding a ling
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UaEC-lWSlmI
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  11,186 19 Jul 2017, 4:54 am

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Sgt Bilko » 19 Jul 2017 4:45 am wrote:
indago » 18 Jul 2017 6:41 am wrote:
Sgt Bilko » 18 Jul 2017 4:34 am wrote:
You just keep on proving how despicable a person you are. Attacking my children demonstrates how low you have become!!!


He's not "Attacking" your "children", he's attacking "a senile chimpanzee". But then, we are all aware of your "Credentials"...

:die: :die: :die: :die: :die: :die: :die:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:faint: :faint: :faint: :faint: :faint: :faint: :faint: :faint:
:wah: :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah:
:wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave:
All I got from you were fallacious ad hominem attacks.
After trying real rhetoric and found it not responsive from you I gave up on it!!!
Ad hominem attacks seem to be the only thing left.
Therefore I will give you a dose of them every time now.
So asswipe what asses have you been Sniffing lately!!
You are the excrement on an asswipe!! Such a disgusting pervert.
Sex in the workplace for everyone to watch. You are one sick son of A Bitch!!
What an exhibitionist!!! Whores have more pride than you do!!!
It is very possible to understand how such a deviant distorted disgusting dipshit you are!!!
That understanding is fraught with the danger of the having the nauseating concepts and smell to cause the stomach to violently expel it's contents.
The only positive in that would be if you received it in your face.
But you are such a disgusting idiot you might just lick it up.
When are you going to attempt to reform yourself from the disgusting perversions you practice!!!

Suck My ding a ling
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UaEC-lWSlmI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3npXX9vQ20
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  15,755 19 Jul 2017, 7:09 am

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indago » 19 Jul 2017 4:54 am wrote:
Sgt Bilko » 19 Jul 2017 4:45 am wrote:
indago » 18 Jul 2017 6:41 am wrote:

He's not "Attacking" your "children", he's attacking "a senile chimpanzee". But then, we are all aware of your "Credentials"...

:die: :die: :die: :die: :die: :die: :die:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:faint: :faint: :faint: :faint: :faint: :faint: :faint: :faint:
:wah: :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah:
:wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave:
All I got from you were fallacious ad hominem attacks.
After trying real rhetoric and found it not responsive from you I gave up on it!!!
Ad hominem attacks seem to be the only thing left.
Therefore I will give you a dose of them every time now.
So asswipe what asses have you been Sniffing lately!!
You are the excrement on an asswipe!! Such a disgusting pervert.
Sex in the workplace for everyone to watch. You are one sick son of A Bitch!!
What an exhibitionist!!! Whores have more pride than you do!!!
It is very possible to understand how such a deviant distorted disgusting dipshit you are!!!
That understanding is fraught with the danger of the having the nauseating concepts and smell to cause the stomach to violently expel it's contents.
The only positive in that would be if you received it in your face.
But you are such a disgusting idiot you might just lick it up.
When are you going to attempt to reform yourself from the disgusting perversions you practice!!!

Suck My ding a ling
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UaEC-lWSlmI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3npXX9vQ20

:die: :die: :die: :die: :die: :die: :die:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:faint: :faint: :faint: :faint: :faint: :faint: :faint: :faint:
:wah: :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah:
:wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave:
All I got from you were fallacious ad hominem attacks.
After trying real rhetoric and found it not responsive from you I gave up on it!!!
Ad hominem attacks seem to be the only thing left.
Therefore I will give you a dose of them every time now.
So asswipe what asses have you been Sniffing lately!!
You are the excrement on an asswipe!! Such a disgusting pervert.
Sex in the workplace for everyone to watch. You are one sick son of A Bitch!!
What an exhibitionist!!! Whores have more pride than you do!!!
It is very possible to understand how such a deviant distorted disgusting dipshit you are!!!
That understanding is fraught with the danger of the having the nauseating concepts and smell to cause the stomach to violently expel it's contents.
The only positive in that would be if you received it in your face.
But you are such a disgusting idiot you might just lick it up.
When are you going to attempt to reform yourself from the disgusting perversions you practice!!!
:die: :die: :die: :die: :die: :die: :die: :die:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:faint: :faint: :faint: :faint: :faint: :faint: :faint: :faint:
:wah: :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah:
:wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave:
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...these stooooooooooooopid f@ck republicans need a 'hero' to worship...and the best these goddamned fools can come up with is ronald (6 letters) wilson (6 letters) reagan (6 letters).... :blink: :drool:

REAGAN: AN AUTOPSY

First published in Liberty, Vol. 2, No. 4, March 1989.
Eight years, eight dreary, miserable, mind-numbing years, the years of the Age of Reagan, are at long last coming to an end. These years have surely left an ominous legacy for the future: we shall undoubtedly suffer from the after-shocks of Reaganism for years to come. But at least Himself will not be there, and without the man Reagan, without what has been called his "charisma," Reaganism cannot nearly be the same. Reagan’s heirs and assigns are a pale shadow of the Master, as we can see from the performance of George Bush. He might try to imitate the notes of Reagan, but the music just ain’t there. Only this provides a glimmer of hope for America: that Reaganism might not survive much beyond Reagan.
Reagan the Man
Many recent memoirs have filled out the details of what some of us have long suspected: that Reagan is basically a cretin who, as a long-time actor, is skilled in reading his assigned lines and performing his assigned tasks. Donald Regan and others have commented on Ronald Reagan’s strange passivity, his never asking questions or offering any ideas of his own, his willingness to wait until others place matters before him. Regan has also remarked that Reagan is happiest when following the set schedule that others have placed before him. The actor, having achieved at last the stardom that had eluded him in Hollywood, reads the lines and performs the action that others – his script-writers, his directors – have told him to follow.
Sometimes, Reagan’s retentive memory – important for an actor – gave his handlers trouble. Evidently lacking the capacity for reasoned thought, Reagan’s mind is filled with anecdotes, most of them dead wrong, that he has soaked up over the years in the course of reading Reader’s Digest or at idle conversation. Once an anecdote enters Reagan’s noodle, it is set in concrete and impossible to correct or dislodge. (Consider, for example, the famous story about the "Chicago welfare queen": all wrong, but Reagan carried on regardless.)
In the early years of Reagan rule, the press busily checked out Reagan’s beloved anecdotes, and found that almost every one of them was full of holes. But Reagan never veered from his course. Why? God knows there are plenty of correct stories about welfare cheats that he could have clasped to his bosom; why stick to false ones? Evidently, the reason is that Reagan cares little about reality; he lives in his own Hollywood fantasy world, a world of myth, a world in which it is always Morning in America, a world where The Flag is always flying, but where Welfare Cheats mar the contentment of the Land of Oz. So who cares if the actual story is wrong? Let it stand, like a Hollywood story, as a surrogate for the welfare cheats whom everyone knows do exist.

The degree to which Reagan is out of touch with reality was best demonstrated in his concentration camp story. This was not simply a slip of the tongue, a Bushian confusion of December with September. When the Premier of Israel visited Reagan at the White House, the President went on and on for three quarters of an hour explaining why he was pro-Jewish: it was because, being in the Signal Corps in World War II, he visited Buchenwald shortly after the Nazi defeat and helped to take films of that camp. Reagan repeated this story the following day to an Israeli ambassador. But the truth was 180-degrees different; Reagan was not in Europe; he never saw a concentration camp; he spent the entire war in the safety of Hollywood, making films for the armed forces.
Well, what are we to make of this incident? This little saga stayed in the back pages of the press. By that point the media had realized that virtually nothing – no fact, no dark deed – could ever stick to the Teflon President. (Iran-Contra shook things up a bit, but in a few months even that was forgotten.)
There are only two ways to interpret the concentration camp story. Perhaps Reagan engaged in a bald-faced lie. But why? What would he have to gain? Especially after the lie was found out, as it soon would be. The only other way to explain this incident, and a far more plausible one, is that Ronnie lacks the capacity to distinguish fantasy from reality. He would, at least in retrospect, have liked to be filming at Buchenwald. Certainly, it made a better story than the facts. But what are we to call a man who cannot distinguish fantasy from reality?
It is surely frightening to think that the most powerful position in the world has been held for eight years by a man who cannot tell fact from fancy. Even more frightening is the defection of the media, who early lost heart and played the role of a submissive receptacle for photo opportunities and press-release handouts. One reason for this defection was the discovery of Reagan’s Teflon nature. Another likely reason was that journalists who were too feisty and independent would be deprived of their precious access to the Presidential plane or to inside scoops or leaks from the White House. And a third reason was probably the desire not to dwell on the vital and hair-raising fact that the President of the United States, "the leader of the free world" and all that jazz, is nothing more than a demented half-wit.

But why the Teflon? Because of the incredible love affair that Ronald Reagan has enjoyed with the American people. In all my years of fascination with American politics (my early childhood memories are couched in terms of who was President or who was Mayor of New York City or who won what election), I have never seen anything remotely like it. Anyone else universally beloved? Franklin D. Roosevelt was worshipped, to be sure, by most of the American electorate, but there was always a large and magnificent minority who detested every inch of his guts. Truman? He was almost universally reviled in his time; he has only been made an icon in retrospect by the conservative movement. Jack Kennedy, too, is only a hero now that he has been safely interred; before his assassination he was cordially detested by all conservatives. Nobody ever loved Nixon. The closest to universal lovability was Ike, and even he did not inspire the intense devotion accorded to Ronnie Reagan; with Ike it was more of a tranquilized sense of peace and contentment.
But with Reagan, it has been pure love: every nod of the head; every wistful "We-e-ll," every dumb and flawed anecdote, every snappy salute, sends virtually every American into ecstasy. From all corners of the land came the cry, "I don’t like his policies very much, but I lo-o-ve the man." Only a few malcontents, popping up here and there, in a few obscure corners of the land, emerged as dedicated and bitter opponents. As one of this tiny minority I can testify that it was a lonely eight years, even within the ranks of the libertarian movement. Sometimes I felt like a lone and unheeded prophet, bringing the plain truth to those who refused to understand. Very often I would be at free-market gatherings, from living rooms to conferences, and I would go on and on about the deficiencies of Reagan’s policies and person, and would be met with responses like "Well of course, he’s not a PhD."
Me: "No, no, that’s not the point. The man is a blithering idiot. He makes Warren Harding tower like Aristotle."
Responder: "Ronald Reagan has made us feel good about America."
Perhaps that’s part of the explanation for the torrent of unconditional love that the American public has poured onto Ronald Reagan. Lost in Hollywood loony-land, Ronnie’s sincere optimism struck a responsive chord in the American masses. The ominous fact that he "made us" feel good about the American State and not just about the country is lost even on many libertarians.
But, in that case, why didn’t Hubert Humphrey’s egregious "politics of joy" evoke the same all-inclusive love? I don’t know the answer, but I’m convinced it’s not simply because Hubert was captive to the dreaded "L-word’ whereas Ronnie is a conservative. It’s lot deeper than that. One of the remarkably Teflon qualities of Reagan is that, even after many years as President, he is still able to act as if he were totally separate from the actions of the government. He can still denounce the government in the same ringing terms he used when he was out of power. And he gets away with it, probably because inside his head, he is still Ronnie Reagan, the mother of anti-government anecdotes as lecturer for General Electric.
In a deep sense, Reagan has not been a functioning part of the government for eight years. Off in Cloud-Cuckoo-Land he is the obedient actor who recites his lines and plays his appointed part. Some commentators have been critical of Reagan for napping in the afternoons, for falling asleep at crucial meetings, for taking long vacations at his beloved ranch. Well, why not? What else does he have to do? Reagan doesn’t actually have to doanything; like Peter Sellers in his last film, all he has to do is be there, the beloved icon, giving his vital sanction to the governmental process.

Reagan’s handlers perceived early on that one threat to Reagan’s Teflon rule would be allowing him to mix it up with members of the press. Away from his teleprompter, Ronnie was a real problem. So very soon, any sort of real press conference, including uninhibited questions and answers, was done away with. The only press "conferences" became shouted questions as Reagan walked quickly to and from the White House helicopter. One of his handlers has written that, despite all efforts, they couldn’t stop Reagan from exercising one peculiar personality trait: his compulsion to answer every question that he hears. But fortunately, not much was risked, since the noise of the helicopter engines would drown out most of the repartee.
The worst moment for the Reagan handlers came, of course during the first debate with Mondale in 1984. For one glorious moment, during the give and take of the debate, the real Reagan emerged: confused, befuddled, out of it. It was a shaky moment, but all the handlers needed to do was to reassure the shocked masses that their beloved President was still sentient, was still thereto be a totem to his flock. The handlers blamed Reagan’s showing on "over coaching" they made sure that he slept a lot just before the second debate, and they fed him a snappy mock self-deprecating one-liner about his age. The old boy could still remember his jokes: he got off his lovable crack, and the American masses, with a sigh of relief, clasped him to their bosoms once again.
The Reagan Years: Libertarian Rhetoric, Statist Policies
How did Reagan manage to pursue egregiously statist policies in the name of liberty and of "getting government off our backs?" How was he able to follow this course of deception and mendacity?
Don’t try to get Ronnie off the hook by blaming Congress. Like the general public – and all too many libertarians – Congress was merely a passive receptacle for Ronnie’s wishes. Congress passed the Reagan budgets with a few marginal adjustments here and there – and gave him virtually all the legislation, and ratified all the personnel, he wanted. For one Bork there are thousands who made it. The last eight years have been a Reagan Administration for the Gipper to make or break.
ImageThere was no "Reagan Revolution." Any "revolution" in the direction of liberty (in Ronnie’s words "to get government off our backs") would reduce the total level of government spending. And that means reduce in absolute terms, not as proportion of the gross national product, or corrected for inflation, or anything else. There is no divine commandment that the federal government must always be at least as great a proportion of the national product as it was in 1980. If the government was a monstrous swollen Leviathan in 1980, as libertarians were surely convinced, as the inchoate American masses were apparently convinced and as Reagan and his cadre claimed to believe, then cutting government spending was in order. At the very least, federal government spending should have been frozen, in absolute terms, so that the rest of the economy would be allowed to grow in contrast. Instead, Ronald Reagan cut nothing, even in the heady first year, 1981.
At first, the only "cut" was in Carter’s last-minute loony-tunes estimates for the future. But in a few short years, Reagan’s spending surpassed even Carter’s irresponsible estimates. Instead, Reagan not only increased government spending by an enormous amount – so enormous that it would take a 40 percent cut to bring us back to Carter’s wild spending totals of 1980 – he even substantially increased the percentage of government spending to GNP. That’s a "revolution"?

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