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Blackvegetable » 22 Jan 2021, 9:59 pm » wrote: U.S.-China trade war has cost up to 245,000 U.S. jobs: business group study

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump’s trade war with China has caused a peak loss of 245,000 U.S. jobs, but a gradual scaling back of tariffs on both sides would boost growth and lead to an additional 145,000 jobs by 2025, a study commissioned by the U.S.-China Business Council (USCBC) shows.

 The group, which represents major American companies doing business in China, said the study by Oxford Economics also includes an “escalation scenario” which estimates a significant decoupling of the world’s two largest economies could shrink U.S. GDP by $1.6 trillion over the next five years. This could result in 732,000 fewer U.S. jobs in 2022 and 320,000 fewer jobs by 2025, it said.

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What is this ****?

Are you just now understanding what trump said when he declared he was running for president?

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omh » 8 minutes ago » wrote: denial enlightens, I awaken silent instinctive awareness within replacements trained to never accept life in plain sight. might call it subliminal deprogramming. You haven't awaken yet and you still prefer shadows of doubt over understanding natural point of eternally separated so far in biological proportion to numbers occupying space now..
Dude sometimes you are just annoying. I have no clue what you are saying so just either figure out how to speak english or stop giving me a notification. Maybe I am starting to understand why you get banned.

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omh » 15 minutes ago » wrote: social narratives not a species mutually evolving so far. again you think nobody understand natural displacement in active living so far. Bubble burst. A nobody of character does understand what every society factually states isn't possible in theory or theology used to govern outcomes forward.
Uh...whatever you said I'm sure it is enlightening.

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SJConspirator » 43 minutes ago » wrote: So the peaceful dissolution and separation was possible for the USSR but not for us?
The ussr contained other countries. Estonia ( the biggest cause of the end), Lithuania, Ukraine, etc.

The USA doesn't have such divisions.

Sane and insane people just kinda occupy he same space.

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SJConspirator » 32 minutes ago » wrote: you missed a huge factor in all this... prison slave labor fueled by the war on drugs.  Thanks to the 13th amendment,  there is a huge population of nonviolent drug offenders doing free labor for US corporations, who give kickbacks to the wardens.  This drives down the cost of labor even more than immigration, considering the US Imprisons ten times  the amount of people that other countries do.
The environment we create also fosters crime. For many people there simply is nothing else to do.

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omh » 24 minutes ago » wrote: which "we" where there is no I involved in that transaction between interpretaitons life is more than mutually evolving replacements biologically centered where they occupy space conceiv ed to decmposed so far.
We are the USA. The topic of discussion.

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It seems to not kill many people who get it. I have been very social distancy so I haven't gotten it. But if I did I wouldn't be terribly worried.

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omh » 30 minutes ago » wrote: that is the method used by deniers to complain I am off topic and gets me banned from message boards. I hit you from the core of your own path of deflecting real for your one sided reality's sake.
i do not see why you would get banned. It isnt like your gibberish bothers me or anything...it just doesn't contribute. Because I have no clue what you are saying.

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omh » 39 minutes ago » wrote: when does this happen and how does it remain simultaneosuly taking place spontaneosuly with each conception changing people added so far. three letters NOW going on HERE as NO-WHERE else again.
If you could figure out how to speak english you might be saying something interesting. But i have no clue what point you are trying to make. Unfortunate...i have never heard a person even attempt to challenge this truth I have stated.

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IkeBana » Today, 4:35 pm » wrote: Somebody who's less human than Sagan and more human than FOS...who needs us to be different so that he can feel superior.
I'm guessing you are white. And I am superior to you.

There goes your theory.

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PXiZ1102 » Today, 5:53 pm » wrote: Solve rain and night time and the Pacific Ocean while you're at it.

1. You can't.
2. What's wrong with it just being what it is?

You think everyone should be the same race?

(I know that's not what you believe, but it's better that I ask.)
Because rain exists, we put roofs on our house. Because race exists, humans occupy different parts of the world. Its a reality you have to actually address in some way...not merely tolerate.

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PXiZ1102 » Today, 6:02 pm » wrote: Saying it over and over again is getting us nowhere.

Without inundating us all with scientific details and long winded paragraphs from some bearded egg head, could you find or create a short, direct, concise explanation of why you believe this?

"Multiracial societies simply cannot work. And that is not merely for economic reasons. We are all alienated and living in an artificial sort of society that none of us are genetically adapted to."

If it isn't easily read and digested no one will read or listen to you further on this matter, I suspect. I won't.
because human beings are life forms. Like all life forms we adapt to our particular environment.

As social creatures an important part of our environment is the people around us. For our entire evolutionary history the people around us were our race.

And so it is in our DNA how to organize society and how to perform various roles. Each human society has its own unique method of survival. For Europeans in general.and Anglos in particular the method of survival was technological development. For..say...the Chinese the method of survival involved extreme efficiency and very low risk.

Now imagine if a country was half Anglo and half Chinese. What does the society do? Does it accept risk and inefficiency and breaking of traditions in order to develop technology...like the Anglos would want? Or does it follow a Chinese sort of low risk and high conformity efficient use of resources?

It cannot do both and there is nothing coherent that can cater to both strategies. So what you get instead is paralysis and a low trust society. Internal conflict, political instability, and perhaps eventually war.
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PXiZ1102 » Today, 4:51 pm » wrote: Compare the attitudes and racial conditions from the end of WWII until 1971.

Read the lyrics where he describes how things USED to be.

There is a difference between 1945 and the start of the Nixon administration.

Then compare the way things are perceived to have been in 1971 with how they are today.

In regards to freedom and a lack of societal bigotry and systemic racism, we have come a long way.

You may not like the direction society has gone as a result of trying to assure that Blacks enjoy the most equal rights possible, but you can't say that progress in terms of giving Blacks an even playing field, hasn't occurred. 

And I would guess that is not your greatest concern.

Which is okay as far as your having the right to express your opinion is concerned.

you seem to be interested in solving racism.

i am discussing the problem of race.

even if you solve racism, you wont solve race.

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IkeBana » Today, 3:44 pm » wrote: Carl Sagan, Cosmos...

“We have held the peculiar notion that a person or society that is a little different from us, whoever we are, is somehow strange or bizarre, to be distrusted or loathed. Think of the negative connotations of words like ‘alien’ or ‘outlandish.’ And yet the monuments and cultures of each of our civilizations merely represent different ways of being human. An
extraterrestrial visitor, looking at the differences among human beings and their societies, would find those differences trivial compared to the similarities. The Cosmos may be densely populated with intelligent beings. But the Darwinian lesson is clear: There will be no humans elsewhere. Only here. Only on this small planet. We are a rare as well as endangered species. Every one of us is, in the cosmic perspective, precious. If a human disagrees with you, let him live. In a hundred billion galaxies, you will not find another.”

I dont care if you decide to hate people who are different. That is irrelevant. I guess that is a problem for you and carl sagan to struggle with.

but the fact remains: we are different

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PXiZ1102 » Today, 4:11 pm » wrote: This was in 1971.

LOU RAWLS * Natural Man
https://youtu.be/PtrqU7QnEus

You know, there was a time when, if someone told you to do something, you did it. Bam. Right on. No questions asked. It was "yes, sir" and "yes, mam." You never said no, you know? Huh. But, you know, things are changing nowadays. It's a new day, babies. Folks want to take their own lives into their hands and make their own choices. No longer do they want to go along with the program 'cause everybody say it's right. You know what I mean? Let me tell you what I'm talkin' about, you see, 'cause

I don't want no gold watch for working fifty years from nine till five
While the boss is guzzling champagne and I'm belting beer in some dive

'Cause I want to be
Happy and free
Living and loving for me
I want to be
Happy and free
Living and loving for me
Like a natural man (like a natural man)
A natural man (like a natural man)

Well now
I refuse to listen to people's thinking that I live too high
I'm gonna taste it now, before my one life streaks on by

'Cause I want to be
Happy and free
Living and loving for me
I want to be
Happy and free
Living and loving for me
Just like a natural man (like a natural man)
I said a natural man (just like a natural man)

Well now, I tried to do what others say that I should do
They say that I should fit in, fool 'em, fake it, well
Those kinda dues just make me crazy and blue
Man, I just can't take it

So when you see me walking, won't you notice that proud look in my eyes
My feet are on the ground and my soul is searching for the sky

'Cause I want to be
Happy and free
Living and loving for me
I want to be
Happy and free
Living and loving for me
Just like a natural man (just like a natural man)
A natural man (just like a natural man)
Just like a natural man (just like a natural man)
My feet are on the ground (just like a natural man)
My soul is searching for the sky (just like a natural man)
Like a natural man (just like a natural man)
No more "yes, sir" (just like a natural man)
No more "yes, mam" (just like a natural man)
Huh, 'cause I'm a natural man (just like a natural man)
I'm a natural man (just like a natural man)

useless platitudes. Not great poetry either...just a sign that also the arts have fallen into decline

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Pengwin » Today, 2:45 pm » wrote: Your opinion is noted, but I'm pretty sure I can find a civil war of those living side by side.  The Balkans comes to mind as well, for instance...

theres a reason that 'balkanize' is a word lol. Different regions were just de facto different states. The entire country was not well integrated.

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Pengwin » Today, 2:21 pm » wrote: And the Russian Revolution?  Or do you consider revolutions separate from civil wars?
Revolutions and rebellions etc are not like civil wars. The revolt attempts to win by basically exhausting the perceived legitimacy of the state and undermine loyalty. The army of a rebellionattemps to avoid confrontation in battle...if they do fight then they are crushed.

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Pengwin » Today, 2:09 pm » wrote: You are the history buff.  Is there not an example of a civil war in which that was also true?

Wars between Catholics and Protestants seems like an obvious starting point.  Jews and Romans perhaps?
Never.

Protestants and Catholics were divided into different kingdoms. If the king was Catholic, so was the country. Romans and Jews also were seperate countries.

There's never been some 'Civil war' without such clear divisions.

The best you could get is a revolt. Like say pugachevs rebellion. All revolts require a strong leader. And they don't have the same feel as a civil war.

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Pengwin » Today, 1:52 pm » wrote: Still brother against brother, how very American...
Well the point stands. The factions are all living amongst each other now. There is no clear division and no organization. Ergo no war. Kust endless riots.

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PXiZ1102 » Today, 1:55 pm » wrote: Well, first, this...

Wealth gap between America's richest and poorest shrinks under Trump
https://youtu.be/a9AB7lHOHtw
It obviously is never going to return to the 1950s when the averageman could expect to.buy a house and support a family on a single income. The 'American dream' is long gone and it is never coming back. And yes...i think this is because of the 'Social.progress' we have had since ww2.

Multiracial societies simply cannot work. And that is not merely for economic reasons. We are all alienated and living in an artificial sort of society that none of us are genetically adapted to.



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