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Doug1943 » 41 minutes ago » wrote: Yes, you're absolutely right about those countries. And you once would have added Sweden, until they decided to commit national suicide.
I know a little bit about Singapore, since I used to teach there for a couple of weeks every year. I always urge American conservatives to study their Central Provident Fund. The original welfare states were basically the enforcement of prudent behavior by law: you were forced to save for your retirement, or unemployed periods. That's what we should return to.
'Twould appear that capitalist and socialist are terms being frazzled at the efges of their definitions in a manner of which Aristotle would not approve - against which he would demand a reckoning.

'Twould also appear that if one ever finds a nation of more than a few million souls which does not rely on a prodigious welfare apparatus, one may without further study conclude that it isn't a capitalist nation, as a prodigious welfare apparatus must and always does accompany capitalism, insulating it from broad and violent rejection.
 
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Sa'ratheHippiecrit » Today, 9:59 am » wrote:
I recall another incident. I was in a job interview and was asked standard what are your strengths/weaknesses type of questions. And the lady (white) interviewing me kept asking me about what difficulties I have experienced, and I told her, but I did not mention my race in any of them, She kept pressing me until I understood what she was after so that she could comfortably give me the job. She wanted me to speak of my blackness and how it has been a hinderance, thereby perpetuating the mindset even when I was unwilling. She needed me to somehow acknowledge perceived inferiority so that I wouldn't mistakenly think I am equal (or God forbid) superior to her somehow. She wanted to hire the poor black person that she wanted to help, not an empowered individual without regard to race. 

 
This is a beautiful paragraph. ^ Lotta condensed truth in it.
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Sa'ratheHippiecrit » Today, 9:15 am » wrote: What changed is mass incarceration,
 
And blacks now understand that BIDEN authored the bill which caused it.
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Sa'ratheHippiecrit » Today, 9:07 am » wrote: Will it work? I feel (yes omh I said feel because i dont know) that the black community is really the swing vote. Black ppl arent genuinely excited about Biden/Harris, they just dont want Trump in office anymore. So if Trump becomes an ally of the black community, could he spark the same excitement as he does his other loyal constituents? Most likely not.  Probably too little too late. The repercussions of Trump not staying true to his words is far too great to give him the black vote, I suspect.

He doesn't need it all. He just needs a bit, and for some of it to stay home.
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Sa'ratheHippiecrit » Today, 8:04 am » wrote: Perhaps the issue isn't Trump. Perhaps it is the dual party system...

There are two corporatist war parties and no labor peace party.

Yeah, that could possibly pose a small problem, I suppose, if one dove deeply.
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Sa'ratheHippiecrit » Today, 7:30 am » wrote: Yea they pander away until they are re-elected, at which point they do nothing for the black community. Black supremacist state? The USA cannot be a black supremacist state, by definition. Black people do not hold power positions. Even when they do, there is a white person working higher up than such black people, with control of industry, virtually all markets, media, and what else...you name it. Not to be all conspiracy theory-ish, but it is possible that what is happening right now with the BLM movement, for instance, is actually the (white) powers that be that is "allowing" it to happen for a greater agenda. What such agenda is, I don't know. Perhaps so Trump isn't re-elected. Or perhaps so that he is re-elected. Or maybe it is greater than the U.S. presidential election. Meaning, for whatever reason chaos is needed to rationalize unlawful tactics nationally, and abroad for that matter. The whole world is watching the U.S. election, it is bigger than America.
The violence in the street is not merely being ALLOWED. It is being funded and directed and protected.

The FBI bowing to criminal thuggery was symbolic. Mind you, this is the same FBI that will harvest their bodies and souls when useful idiots in the street are no longer convenient.
 
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FOS » Yesterday, 5:23 pm » wrote: I dont understand why you wouldnt believe it. The USA is clearly a black supremacist state. Both parties pander to blacks.
It is perfectly acceptable - and unavoidable, without some very embarrassing and effeminate panty dancing - to acknowledge their supremacy in sports; yet it is RAAAAAAASISSSSSSS to question whether they lag anywhere else.

If they are better at some things and equal at all others, then they are the massa race.

Of course, their results tell a different tale - so it HAS to be whitey's fault. 100% and not a whit less. And that is witless - can I get a witness? They lead in fitness, but is it reckless to observe they are often feckless? Will I be accused of fitting an entire race for a hemp necklace?

I believe so - it's where the left will always go. One must be immediately cowed, if one dares think the left's thoughts out loud - 'tain't allowed..
 
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RickyTavy » Today, 11:51 am » wrote: ...  Remember...
 
Oh, we ALL remember, cuck. No one has forgotten that you were FOR men in little girls' showers before you were agin it, and then fer it, and then agin it, you panty dancing cretin.

And no one has forgotten the asswhipping you backpedaled from, either, drunky mcdrunkstuff.

You argued every sideof the issue, devolving in one session to deciding what the gender confused should WEAR in order to earn their shower time with little girls.

You're a weak little misogynist cuck - an insipid rape apologist and frat boy enabler, lending your name to the legal dissolution of womanhood.
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Taipan » Today, 10:06 am » wrote: The IRS has the right to reject that figure as a deduction, don't they?
Why didn't they?

Why can't Trump just get a military, flat-top, hair-cut like the generals
and admirals do?     Trump is the Commander-in Chief, isn't he?                        

He wasn't CIC when the deductions took place - he was a reality teevee star, and paying for make up is a legitimate expense.
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DennisTheMenace » Today, 5:44 am » wrote: [trump paid for hair and makeup as a teevee star]
 
I heard the ****** didn't even do his own stunts.
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RickyTavy » Today, 11:35 am » wrote: Sorry, Twitchy but I am long past bored with your tired ankle gumming.  I will remind you, though, that your cliched prissiness about drinking detracts from your efforts to prove to the other Deplorables that you are a very manly ****.
Whatever you say, ****** boy. No one has forgotten that you were FOR men in little girls' showers before you were agin it, and then fer it, and then agin it, you panty dancing cretin.

No one has forgotten the asswhipping you backpedaled from, either, drunky mcdrunkstuff.
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For the record, I don't care about any of em.
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sootedupCyndi » Today, 11:14 am » wrote: Can I go in there and read it somewhere. I can get in to read.?

It's in a thread by flarvageddon titled, "Well, is it gonna happen?" There's also a bit in another thread - cant remember whose, but you can go to flarvageddon's profile and check his posts. Most of it is in the thread I mentioned, though.
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RollingRock » Today, 9:42 am » wrote: Gotta say, that was entertaining, Cannon.       You had kfools all befuddled.

Thank you, sir. I wagged my *** like a true scotsman, until he finally banned me in self defense. He was sure that I was getting the better of him, but couldn't put his finger on how I was doing it.

Water is truest to its nature when it takes the shape of its container. Can't be vindicated until you're indicted. I allowed them to create the arguments - and they obliged. I was nothing until they accused me - only then was I innocent. And that feller kfoo cannot tolerate my innocence. If I didn't **** him, he **** himself. He would rather falsely indict me than live with the true indictment of himself.

There has to be a villain. And if I was designed for any purpose, playing the villain ranks high on the list.

He misses me already.  
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Doug1943 » 13 Jan 2016, 8:54 am » wrote: Yes, all kinds of problems with capitalist societies. Unbridled every-man-for-himself capitalism is a disaster, ecologically, socially, every which way. I'm a great supporter of those purely socialist American institutions called National Parks. Also the USMC. But please ... don't make the government responsible for designing and making my computer hardware and software, my car, my TV, my handgun, the food in my supermarket, the toilet paper, etc etc etc.

But ... once we've covered the theoretical pluses and minuses of socialism vs capitalism, and once we've all contributed our anecdotes about the problems of both ... we then need to turn to empirical investigation.

We've had a dozen or more societies which have tried socialism, some large, some small, some backward, some pretty advanced. And in every case we have seen that they lag 'way behind capitalist societies in terms of the standard of living of the masses.

Since socialist societies have strong -- very strong -- states, they do find it easier than most capitalist countries to do the things that states need to do: education, for example. Cuba has an excellent education system. Its public health measures are good, too. If a natural disaster hits Cuba, it's going to be far more successful than Mexico at dealing with it.

That said, there is a reason you can't get a decent bar of soap in Santiago unless you have relatives in Miami.

Cuba is one of the few socialist countries left -- and they're slowing backing out of this terrible system. It won't be easy, because too many powerful people have a strong material stake in keeping things as they are -- for the bribes, if no other reason.

The trick for Cuba will be to get out of the socialist net, while still retaining the undoubted gains of the Revolution.

For some sense of the debate going on there, I recommend that everyone read The Havana TImes, at http://www.havanatimes.org. (The amount of uncensored debate there is astonishing.) If you're a socialist -- or even any sort of political person -- you will find the debates interesting, and you can even contribute to them via the comments section after each article. In fact, you could probably submit an article to the Havana Times and get it published. They'd probably like to have a well-argued libertarian essay, or a piece supporting total socialism by someone who was not a government hack.
What about hong kong, singapore, norway? All of these governments - and russia, and some others I don't know about, I would wager - participate in the market, which until embarrassed think tank Heritage changed the game rules USED to mean they were socialist. They seem happy with both baby and bath water.
 
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Doug1943 » 13 Sep 2019, 1:14 am » wrote: I can recall reading something by Ben Shapiro perhaps ten years ago, when he was a student. I have to say, I was very unimpressed. But ... he has become a formidable debater. It's a great pleasure to watch YouTube videos of him shredding clueless lefty college kids (although it's sad to see how low the intellectual level of our campuses has fallen).

The problem with people like him going into politics is that in the real world, you have to make compromises to get anything done. We need some people who can stand outside of the political process, and say what needs to be said, without worrying about whether it will offend a potential ally whose vote you need to get your bill passed.

Shapiro was adroit and well spoken at a young age, and is extremely well educated - not all that smart.

Shapiro is probably running on about a 120 IQ - well above the average or mean, well below genius. But he was formidably educated in parochial schools. He was the consummate early bloomer - and he's still entertaining. But most of the entertainment value is in the mismatch - he's not known for biting into opponents with serious gray matter.

Still, watching him piss on snowflakes is pure schadenfreude.
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WillFranklin » Today, 10:07 am » wrote: Please tell me that over and over to keep me in check, brother.

In the 2022 Democratic Primary my ads will have peacy 1973 guitar music and say the words peace and Medicare For All instead of war, and legalize marijuana. And on the campaign trail I promise to say we need to stop being Israel's warmonger, JUST FOR YOU SHOOG!

The Democrats are a bigger party than your rat infested tax evaders.

Ivanka was paid consultant fees to the tune of the same hundreds of millions written off for consultant fees on a Trump racket that wrote it all off in big business losses to the IRS. But no money for Medicaid. He tried to rate it at the CPI when it grows three times as fast. We know that Medicaid money goes to Ivanka then don't we, technically?

You hate US. That's the difference.
You hate syrians and iranians - the folks you are voting to murder, chicken hawk.
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Doug1943 » Today, 8:16 am » wrote: An interesting thread.

Most of the newest adherents to the 'intersectional Left' -- unlike the remaining orthodox Marxists, the old Left -- have deep contempt for the working class. The 'socialism' they want is for themselves: free college tuition and healthcare. They couldn't give a toss about the jobs of factory workers, all of whom are probably transphobic.

But I believe that there is the objective basis for some sort of co operation -- exactly what form it might take remains to be seen -- among the 'pro-working class Left' and the base (not the Think Tanks) of the American right, who are largely white workers.

There is abolutely basis for agreement on a radically different American foreign policy. I hang out with fellow conservatives, and you (if you're on the Left) might be surprised by how popular Major Tulsi Gabbard is with many of them. It's interesting that most of the most vocal endless-war advocates in the Republican Party, the neo-cons, have moved over to the Democrats. They know whom to support to keep the troops flowing to Absurdistan.

The base of the Republicans used to be reflexively patriotic. If the President announced he was going to invade Canada, they would have been waving their flags and screaming USA! USA! USA! No longer. (It's not that they despise their country, like young Lefties do. But they're becoming aware that they have been used.)

But many of them are still under the spell of the economic libertarians in the Republican Party, at least in theory. How they reconcile being against the minimum wage or some sort of national health care -- "it's interfering in the market!" "It's interfering with my right to buy and sell where I choose" -- with being against Free Trade ... I don't know. But few people are consistenly-logical rationalists. People take time to evolve politically.

Anyway, Left and Right here might enjoy reading the conservative Francis Buckley's (no, no relation) newish book,

The Republican Workers Party: How the Trump Victory Drove Everyone Crazy, and Why It Was Just What We Needed – Illustrated, September 4, 2018 [ https://www.amazon.com/Republican-Worke ... 641770066/ ] He proposes a socially-conservative but economically middle-of-the-road party ... but read it yourself.  It's got a very positive introduction by Michael Moore.

If you're on the Left and just can't bear to read anything written by one of us, here's a good one by one of you: Michael Lind's The New Class War: [https://www.amazon.com/New-Class-War-De ... 593083695/  ] Lind is one of my favorite liberals, because he's not in  the grips of prissy political correctness, and says it like it is.

Just kidding about the Michael Moore, by the way.

Welcome, doug - I don't recall seeing you post before.

I am a fiscal liberal - that is, I believe in large government works, AS DO CONJOBS, though they are too stupid to know it.
I am a social conservative - that is, I think boys should shower with boys, and folks should stop making fake climate science a cult.

Fiscal liberal, social conservative - the opposite of a libertardian. You sound a bit like that yourself, sir.
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WillFranklin » Today, 8:01 am » wrote: If you want to spend a moment to convince a gullible buffoon that Biden is going to reduce their Social Security or Medicare benefits then have at it.

He would be going against his CURRENT campaign proposals, which include new taxation plans on upper incomes to ensure solvency, not benefit cuts.

He is a Catholic so I know he has the Zionism issue problem. But with Obama he told Israel to get back to 1967 borders.

That's a start.
 
I am unaware of israel's compliance with those stalwarts' no nonsense demands. THAT would be a start. Obama raised their welfare when they refused - that's some real tough treatment.

I prefer a monkey wrench to a reliable war hore. You prefer the war hore. We can agree to disagree - but let's not pretend you aren't a chicken hawk neocon, mgay?
 
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sootedupCyndi » Today, 6:41 am » wrote: Ok let me see if I can dechiper this.. You went undercover on a recon mission. Bumped into the fools and found out the deal fell thru. And fools was bitter. Go have yourself another Nig-nog.

I wasn't really undercover. My name was flarvageddon, and I readily identified myself as CP.

Kfoo claimed to have screen shots he could not produce, whch would show me in a bad light. I laughed at him - and please pronounce laughed as if it rhymes with coughed, because that is what I did. I loughed.

He channeled Reacher, calling me a thief and this site a clone, assuring me of who I will never be in a sort of wistful serenade. Then he muahahaha-ed me that he was no longer a prisoner of all the liberals whose accounts he has desperately reactivated and whose names still show up in a who's who as his loyal left-tenants.

It was very oddball.
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Only weak ideas must be protected from debate, and only religions declare people heretics.

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