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righteous » Yesterday, 6:09 pm » wrote: WHERE'S THE LINK? GET WITH THE PROGRAM ***. HOW LONG YOU SPEWING YOUR **** ON THIS SITE?
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Trump often brags about not taking a paycheck, but his golf hobby has now cost taxpayers $133.8 million.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-go ... 860fcab86c

President Donald Trump returned to Mar-a-Lago on Friday evening for the 29th golf-related trip of his presidency to his for-profit Palm Beach, Florida, resort, raising his total taxpayer golf tab to $133.8 million.

The Washington Post found recently that Trump’s business has charged the Secret Service as much as $650 a room per night at Mar-a-Lago ― more than three times the normal rate that federal employees are supposed to spend in South Florida ― and $17,000 a month for a cottage at Trump’s Bedminster, New Jersey, resort. During an early Mar-a-Lago visit, White House employees ran up a $1,006 bar tab, which taxpayers also paid

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ConsRule » 21 Oct 2021, 4:49 pm » wrote: So...the law DOES NOT state the person must be part of an established religion that is against vaccination.

The law protects not only people who belong to traditional, organized religions, such as Buddhism, Christianity, Hinduism, Islam, and Judaism, but also others who have sincerely held religious, ethical or moral beliefs.

https://www.eeoc.gov/religious-discrimination

No, but they are required to show that they are opposed to ALL vaccines.

And they have to prove that this was a firmly held belief BEFORE the covid vaccine.

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ConsRule » 21 Oct 2021, 9:35 am » wrote: No...they can be asked to provide supporting evidence, but there is NO REQUIREMENT to provide proof.  Besides, if DOES NOT NEED to be a religious belief...the law clearly states a "closely held religious, moral or ethical belief."

Besides...a potentially huge issue with these pilots is the company unilaterally changing work place rules that were negotiated and written into a CBA.  Expect litigation on that issue soon if it hasn't already been filed.
https://www.npr.org/2021/09/28/10410175 ... heres-whyf

First, employers may probe whether an employee's religious belief is in fact sincere. They may ask questions about that employee's vaccination history or church attendance. If the employer determines the belief is not sincere, it may deny the exemption request.

Before granting the religious exemptions, Troup sent the employees a list of 28 commonly used medicines that also used fetal cells in their research, testing or development — a list that includes Tylenol, Motrin, Tums, Ex-Lax and other medicine cabinet staples. He asked employees to attest to not be using any of those medicines.

"They need to know that if they're going to be consistent in their beliefs, that applies to a lot of different things other than the COVID vaccine," Troup says.
 

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ConsRule » 21 Oct 2021, 9:35 am » wrote: No...they can be asked to provide supporting evidence, but there is NO REQUIREMENT to provide proof.  Besides, if DOES NOT NEED to be a religious belief...the law clearly states a "closely held religious, moral or ethical belief."

Besides...a potentially huge issue with these pilots is the company unilaterally changing work place rules that were negotiated and written into a CBA.  Expect litigation on that issue soon if it hasn't already been filed.
Military response

The website Military.com, which serves members of all the U.S. armed forces, advises that obtaining a religious exemption from the military will prove exceptionally difficult, unless a person previously refused on religious grounds to take a series of other vaccines required at time of enlistment. Those include vaccines against smallpox, influenza and hepatitis.

https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2021/ ... on-to-the/

Under current law, individuals looking to get religious exemptions don’t need to be a part of organized religion, Sanders said, and they don’t have to believe in all tenets of that religion.

 So, despite numerous religious leaders calling on their members to get vaccinated, those who refuse due to religious reasons can still do so as long as it is “sincerely held.”

 However, anyone who brings a case to court will likely have to prove that they are opposed to all vaccines and not just the COVID-19 vaccine, Sanders said. If they only object to one, “that could present problems for them.”
 

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ConsRule » 21 Oct 2021, 5:54 am » wrote: I didn’t realize how little you knew.  Nothing in the discrimination law states the person must be affiliated with a religion that prohibits vaccination, they simply need to have “a closely held religious, moral or ethical belief”.
It is a personal issue and nothing more.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-d ... 1634673437

 President Joe Biden’s chief medical adviser (and himself a Catholic educated at Jesuit institutions), said earlier this month that there are “very, very few, literally less than a handful” of established religions against vaccination.

  Pope Francis has said “getting the vaccines that are authorized by the respective authorities is an act of love.”

 Lawyers for the school noted that both plaintiffs acknowledged getting other vaccines in the past. They wrote in court papers that the doctor “did not articulate an individualized Catholic belief different from the views of the Vatican doctrinal office or the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, which have come out strongly in favor of vaccination against COVID-19.” 
 
 

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ConsRule » 21 Oct 2021, 5:54 am » wrote: I didn’t realize how little you knew.  Nothing in the discrimination law states the person must be affiliated with a religion that prohibits vaccination, they simply need to have “a closely held religious, moral or ethical belief”.
It is a personal issue and nothing more.

Yes, but they have to prove that this isn't a belief  that is just about the Covid vaccine. 

Most states have a religious exemption for vaccinations for children.  They would be asked if their children were vaccinated.  Had they received flu or pneumonia vaccines?

They have to prove that they have a religious belief that would preclude them from ALL vaccines.

Not an easy thing to prove.

A lot of religious exemptions are turned down. As a matter of fact, most are turned down.

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Str8tEdge » 20 Oct 2021, 9:11 pm » wrote: Yes, quite. The management backed down and changed their policy, 

But we can see why they truth is so threatening to your fascist agenda.

They didn't back down, they just delayed the inevitable.

Unless the employees are Amish or Christian Scientist; they won't have a chance.

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Independent » 20 Oct 2021, 6:27 pm » wrote: go ahead look it up. 

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Well, post all of your facts.

Or are you waiting for somebody to do it for you?

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Independent » 20 Oct 2021, 5:20 pm » wrote: Are you dense or purposely lying?  

August.
Well, why don't you look?

I love this.  Would somebody go look and find stuff?  

Are you DENSE?  GO LOOK FOR STUFF YOURSELF!

But since you are too stupid to Google.  Here you go:
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Over 5,000 Texas residents died from COVID-19 in September alone. According to a New York Times analysis, approximately 284 Texans are dying every day from COVID-19. That’s fewer than the 377 Floridians losing their lives each day to the virus, but drastically higher than the daily death rates in more-heavily vaccinated states California (117 per day) and New York (35 per day).
 

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Independent » 20 Oct 2021, 3:43 pm » wrote: Where is the flurry of discussion about COVID levels in Florida and Texas?

Someone post the current numbers from these backward states. 

Also, is COVID going up or down in the heavily vaxxed New England?

Asking for a friend.
Ok, here we go:

The new Texas COVID-19 surge could be worse than anything the state has seen yet

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/08/17 ... lizations/

“It’s going to be close,” one health official said as a record number of Texas hospitals run out of intensive care beds and warn that they may soon have more COVID-19 patients than they can handle.

 Between 93% and 98% of hospitalized COVID patients, depending on the area, are unvaccinated, officials said. With just under half of Texans fully vaccinated, the state still has some 16 million people who have yet to be protected from the virus.

 And they are filling the state’s intensive care units rapidly.

 In rural West Texas, a school district announced Monday it would be closed for the next two weeks in an attempt to slow the virus’ spread before it overwhelms the scant health care resources in the area.

 And on Tuesday, overwhelmed Harris County officials offered $100 to anyone getting their first vaccine dose, a desperate attempt to stave off what one hospital CEO called “the worst surge that we have faced in the community.”
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 Most of the ICU bed shortages are occurring in major metro areas, near the Gulf Coast and in the eastern portions of the state, where vaccination rates are among the lowest in the state.
 
 

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TB7 » 20 Oct 2021, 12:17 pm » wrote: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/presid ... ional-pollImageOnly 38% of Americans hold a favorable opinion of Biden, with 50% seeing the president in an unfavorable way.Opinions of Trump were equally as negative, at 39% favorable and 52% unfavorable.
You been Punked!

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In 2017, the “okay” hand gesture acquired a new and different significance thanks to a hoax by members of the website 4chan to falsely promote the gesture as a hate symbol, claiming that the gesture represented the letters “wp,” for “white power.” The “okay” gesture hoax was merely the latest in a series of similar 4chan hoaxes using various innocuous symbols; in each case, the hoaxers hoped that the media and liberals would overreact by condemning a common image as white supremacist.

The overwhelming usage of the “okay” hand gesture today is still its traditional purpose as a gesture signifying assent or approval. As a result, someone who uses the symbol cannot be assumed to be using the symbol in either a trolling or, especially, white supremacist context unless other contextual evidence exists to support the contention. Since 2017, many people have been falsely accused of being racist or white supremacist for using the “okay” gesture in its traditional and innocuous sense.
 

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TB7 » 20 Oct 2021, 11:32 am » wrote: https://100percentfedup.com/awesome-sou ... ate-video/

After thousands of flights were canceled and then one day after a huge protest by employees (see below), management had to back down. The Southwest Pilots Association also sued the airline leading the way for all other employees:

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Not quite:

“While we intend to grant all valid requests for accommodations, in the event a request is not granted, the company will provide adequate time for an employee to become fully vaccinated while continuing to work and adhering to safety protocols,” King said.

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ConsRule » 20 Oct 2021, 12:12 pm » wrote: You are correct. Nobody should go through life afraid.
Unless it is watching people you love slowing dying from asphyxiation.

Four kids orphaned after anti-vax parents both die of Covid with mum telling family ‘make sure my children get jabbed’

https://www.the-sun.com/news/us-news/34 ... x-parents/

AN ANTI-VAX husband and wife have died two weeks apart with Covid-19, orphaning four kids.

 And on their deathbed, they pleaded to their family that their children get vaccinated.

Lydia, 42, was hospitalised with Covid-19 over a month ago before dying with the virus on Monday.

Husband Lawrence, 49, died of complications from the disease on August 2.

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3Lydia and Lawrence leave behind twins, 18, children aged 16 and 11
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ConsRule » 20 Oct 2021, 12:02 pm » wrote: FYI...the virus has a 98.39% survival rate and only 13.7% of the population has contracted it...and that last percentage is high because some have had it twice.

Give everybody a big hug and kiss every time you see them.  Give all those little kiddies a big smooch.

There isn't anything to be afraid of. :blink:  

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ConsRule » 20 Oct 2021, 11:57 am » wrote: You do realize the fully vaccinated can contract and spread the Kung Flu.
That is why I'm still wearing a mask.

 Also, if you aren't vaccinated, it isn't my problem.

You have the freedom to protect yourself from my spit.  It is ca!led a mask.
 
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ConsRule » 20 Oct 2021, 11:14 am » wrote: Demonrats will still have to run on the image of families out on the streets because they were denied benefits and evicted...with the ads showing demonrat governors and demonrat members of Congress.

It's up to them if those people get benefits.  Personally, I don't think a position of "We only feed kids if their parents do exactly what we say" is a solid campaign position...but feel free to run with it.
They made their choice.

I have no empathy for them.

My empathy is for the children infected by these people.

Nearly 94,000 Kids Got COVID-19 Last Week. They Were 15% Of All New Cases

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronaviru ... infections

Many children's hospitals are not only dealing with patients who've contracted the coronavirus but also kids with issues indirectly related to the pandemic. Many children have developed mental health problems stemming from social isolation, and others deferred medical care during the peak of the outbreak last year.

Despite no sharp rise in the number of hospitalizations, Wietecha said many children hospitalized with COVID-19 now, likely driven by the delta variant, are sicker than those who had contracted previous strains. While the overall picture remains unclear, he said pediatric hospitals are nonetheless now in need of specially trained medical staff who understand the unique requirements of treating young patients.
 
 
 
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ConsRule » 20 Oct 2021, 8:59 am » wrote: So demonrats are going to let them, and their children starve and get kicked to the streets (since the eviction moratorium has ended).

Good luck running on that in 2022.
The anti vaxxers aren't voting for Democrats.  

Since this poll was back in July, almost all of the 86% of Democrats would have received their second shot.  

They made a choice, they can live (and die) with it.

https://www.voanews.com/a/covid-19-pand ... 07847.html


Washington Post-ABC News poll has found a startling difference between Democrats and Republicans as it relates to COVID-19 vaccination. The poll found that while 86% of Democrats have received at least one COVID-19 vaccine shot, only 45% of Republicans have.

 In addition, the survey found that while only 6% of Democrats said they would probably decline the vaccine, 47% of Republicans said they would probably not be inoculated.
 

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There are plenty of instances of forced compliance by the Good Guys:

The Civil War:  The U.S. government forced the South into compliance with modern standards of decency

Desegregation

Fair Voting Laws

Child Labor Laws

Child Support Laws

Safe Food Standards

And a lot more
 

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Str8tEdge » 20 Oct 2021, 3:06 am » wrote: Well, I’m sure that’s a relief for them.

Well, I hope they live long enough to be relieved.  Being unvaccinated, and unmasked, at a super spreader event can be a death sentence.

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Str8tEdge » 20 Oct 2021, 2:57 am » wrote: The reason why 20% of our staff left our hospital is they can drive across a bridge and get any job they wish without mandates.  Image   Image  

With 10 million available jobs I’m sure they’ll have no problem getting employment. I bet you HATE that.

Americans getting past your Nazi fascist policies.

Well, did you leave and drive across the bridge?