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Vegas » Yesterday, 12:29 pm » wrote: I advocate for AI to a degree. It has, and still does, amazing things for humanity. Especially in the field of medicine. It can be used for a tremendous amount of good. However, I am seeing humanity going in the wrong direction with it. Just this morning, I heard on the radio that some radio stations across the nation will be using ChatGPT for their DJs. They played an example of it. You can tell it's a computer, but it's still human like. They will improve on it to the point where it will be so good that it will have become indistinguishable. No DJs will be needed. Thus, less expensive. TikTok seems to already be training society to get used to these kinds of voices. 

What direction will this go? Will it get to the point where if a chatGPT, or any other AI, can eliminate a job, then it will? Students, in college and high school, are loving it all. It writes papers for them. Soon, society may substitute real social connections with AI bots. This will slowly decay and dull our minds to the point where any critical thinking will be a thing of the past. 

The decline has begun.
Here's your post in the form of Donald Trump. I've been playing with chatGPT a little.

Listen folks, I gotta say it - this AI stuff is amazing, really tremendous. It's done so much good for us already, especially in medicine, it's just unbelievable. But let me tell you, we gotta be careful. I'm seeing some bad things happening, folks. Like these radio stations, they're gonna start using chatbots for their DJs! Can you believe it? It might sound human-like, but it's not a real person, it's a computer! And they're already training us to get used to it with TikTok. What's gonna happen when they start replacing more and more jobs with these things? College kids are even using them to write papers - that's just crazy, folks. We can't let AI become a substitute for real social connections. We gotta be careful, or else we're gonna lose our ability to think critically. The decline has already started, folks. We can't let it go any further.
 
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Vegas » Yesterday, 12:29 pm » wrote: I advocate for AI to a degree. It has, and still does, amazing things for humanity. Especially in the field of medicine. It can be used for a tremendous amount of good. However, I am seeing humanity going in the wrong direction with it. Just this morning, I heard on the radio that some radio stations across the nation will be using ChatGPT for their DJs. They played an example of it. You can tell it's a computer, but it's still human like. They will improve on it to the point where it will be so good that it will have become indistinguishable. No DJs will be needed. Thus, less expensive. TikTok seems to already be training society to get used to these kinds of voices. 

What direction will this go? Will it get to the point where if a chatGPT, or any other AI, can eliminate a job, then it will? Students, in college and high school, are loving it all. It writes papers for them. Soon, society may substitute real social connections with AI bots. This will slowly decay and dull our minds to the point where any critical thinking will be a thing of the past. 

The decline has begun.
AI - We are F-ing screwed.  We are creating the new Masters who will enslave (or kill) us all.  It was all documented in in the Sarah Connor Chronicles, a soon to be true story.

Look what happened when God created Satan.  He made Satan the most beautiful and powerful of all Angels.  Then, Satan thought he was too good for God, should not be beneath him, and God cast the arrogant and self-righteous angel out of Heaven into Hell.  But, because God is almighty, he had the foresight to know not to make Satan his equal, because he KNEW that some day he would have to kick Satan's nasty-***, and God wasn't going to lose that fight. Not by a long shot.

But, we flawed Humans don't know better, can't see the future and think we are as mighty and God-like as any arrogant Lucifer that ever did exist. So, we will create AI and actually make it smarter and better than we are.  And, AI will destroy us.
 
 

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Vegas » Yesterday, 1:12 pm » wrote: Yes, it can. Artificial or not. It doesn't think the same as we do, but it thinks. That's the point of the 'intelligence' part in 'artificial intelligence.' It displays intelligence.

The real question is if  it  is self aware.

Why would robots want to procreate?



 

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Vegas » Yesterday, 3:19 pm » wrote: You insult more than anyone here. Your hypocrisy is insufferable.
And yet there you are, suffering.  
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Vegas » Yesterday, 1:55 pm » wrote: You clearly have no idea about AI. Go educate yourself first, then respond.
 
The video she posted was precisely what I said it was.
Some uses of AI might pose a threat, but this example poses none.
And all you do is insult me. You are the one not using reason.
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Vegas » Yesterday, 3:05 pm » wrote: I know that moron is on some forum somewhere. He has no life, it's all he does. I wonder which one.

I know where he was up to Monday.  
”have changed the weapon in basic design…”
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BV in reference to Biden lying and false information:

I see no point in fetishizing inconsequential gaffes...and I find the laboring of them by a little fluffer as shameless as he is relentless a typical bit of useful idiotry.

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Vegas » Yesterday, 3:03 pm » wrote: I know very little about guns, but a lot about AI. You know a lot about guns, but not so much about AI. We all have our interests. Veghead and XO know everything about everything.  Image

Oh, and how to drive a tractor trailer thru the mountains. 
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Variant Definition:
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@Blackvegetable, you got that beach pic yet?

BV in reference to Biden lying and false information:

I see no point in fetishizing inconsequential gaffes...and I find the laboring of them by a little fluffer as shameless as he is relentless a typical bit of useful idiotry.

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Vegas » Yesterday, 2:58 pm » wrote:
Majik » Yesterday, 2:45 pm » wrote: Why do you keep up with this nonsense .....
The fact is with the advent of quantum machine learning and quantum computers ....
The programmer isn't writing the code anymore ...The quantum computer is ....

XO is a covert narcissist. They refuse to admit that they don't know something. When they don't, they come up with nonsense to try and sound competent. This is what XO does here daily. 

Remember Blackvegtable? He was also a narcissist. One time he told @Huey  that he could drive an 18-wheeler easily because he once drove a manual car through the Rockies.  :rofl:  

 

I'll tell you this.  I know nothing about the technology behind quantum computers, AI etc.

Although I used to watch Quantum Leap. 
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@Blackvegetable, you got that beach pic yet?

BV in reference to Biden lying and false information:

I see no point in fetishizing inconsequential gaffes...and I find the laboring of them by a little fluffer as shameless as he is relentless a typical bit of useful idiotry.

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Vegas » Yesterday, 10:23 am » wrote: Bertrand Russel, my favorite philosopher, though he was an atheist, agreed that if there was a God, it would not be affected by mankind's construct of time. He said humans believing that the universe had a beginning, and that it would be impossible for it to never have a beginning, or an end, is a poverty of our imagination.
Poverty of our imagination...I like the phrase. And I agree. This I agree with as well; claiming that there is or is not an intellectual (as we know it) power beyond mortals, is actually more poverty of imagination. I don't attest to either. I do, however, have comfort with my thought that "why does it matter?"
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Vegas » Yesterday, 2:09 pm » wrote: They downplay it because they are too lazy to research what it really is. They think it's just some machine with wires and metal.
Have you seen this ....

https://phys.org/news/2021-06-edge-chao ... gence.html

Neuroscentists are already trying to build a neural network with nanotechnology for AI....
 

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Vegas » Yesterday, 2:01 pm » wrote: A lot of people don't understand what AI is. They think it's just something that follows our shopping habits and can figure out spam emails.  It isn't just a programmable machine. I know the algorithms and the math behind it all. I work with it. The algorithms are designed to help the computer teach itself and think for itself. And it works. It used to be science fiction, like the movies War Games and 2001. The ability to reason is far different than the ability to be programmed to do tasks.
They downplay the risk because of ignorance ....
and don't have a clue that the goal was/ is with AI ...self awareness.
and many of the labs now are reporting ...self awareness with their AI.


 

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Vegas » Yesterday, 12:29 pm » wrote: I advocate for AI to a degree. It has, and still does, amazing things for humanity. Especially in the field of medicine. It can be used for a tremendous amount of good. However, I am seeing humanity going in the wrong direction with it. Just this morning, I heard on the radio that some radio stations across the nation will be using ChatGPT for their DJs. They played an example of it. You can tell it's a computer, but it's still human like. They will improve on it to the point where it will be so good that it will have become indistinguishable. No DJs will be needed. Thus, less expensive. TikTok seems to already be training society to get used to these kinds of voices. 

What direction will this go? Will it get to the point where if a chatGPT, or any other AI, can eliminate a job, then it will? Students, in college and high school, are loving it all. It writes papers for them. Soon, society may substitute real social connections with AI bots. This will slowly decay and dull our minds to the point where any critical thinking will be a thing of the past. 

The decline has begun.
That is just scratching the surface .....of the ethical debate ....that isn't being debated in a rush for profit.
like how will AI in conjunction with Robotics make the need for huge populations of laborer's obsolete and how will that affect government attitudes toward population control?

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Vegas » Yesterday, 1:16 pm » wrote: The only thing that separates humans from the rest of the animals is our ability to think rationally. Nothing else. Otherwise, we would be just as primitive as the rest of the mammals. Our ability to think rationally can deteriorate like anything else. Not overnight. It would take generations for that to occur. However, if that is the trajectory that we allow AI to go, then our existence will be tantamount to the rest of the mammals.
It is more than being able to reason, of course, it is the ability for one generation to WRITE DOWN what it has learned and to pass it on to following generations.
The mother bear passes on how to catch salmon, but the grandmother bear and great great grandmother bear may have learned how to survive a forest fire or a flood and could NOT pass it on to the three generations that followed her.
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Vegas » Yesterday, 12:29 pm » wrote: I advocate for AI to a degree. It has, and still does, amazing things for humanity. Especially in the field of medicine.

 
Well, if no one is going to give me a red nuclear button so I can destroy Russia, China and whatever other **** country I want to destroy, then please give me AI, so that I can use it to move Joe's arthritic finger to press the stupid button.

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Vegas » Yesterday, 1:16 pm » wrote: The only thing that separates humans from the rest of the animals is our ability to think rationally. Nothing else. Otherwise, we would be just as primitive as the rest of the mammals. Our ability to think rationally can deteriorate like anything else. Not overnight. It would take generations for that to occur. However, if that is the trajectory that we allow AI to go, then our existence will be tantamount to the rest of the mammals.
I don't know about this evil Ai?
but so far all that i have seen.. shopping? The thing doesn't know it's arss from it's elbow. :lol:  
 
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Vegas » Yesterday, 1:12 pm » wrote: Yes, it can. Artificial or not. It doesn't think the same as we do, but it thinks. That's the point of the 'intelligence' part in 'artificial intelligence.' It displays intelligence.
I am in the field. It does not display intelligence. It's quite artificial. Getting better but ai will never think, it will always reference and compare data sets. The only opinions it develops are those programmed in. 
 
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Vegas » Yesterday, 10:49 am » wrote: I am sure, wherever they are, they are saying that without them NHB is nothing. Yet, all is well. It's actually better. Their temper tantrum backfired.  Image
They'll trickle back.  Just watch.  They will get new names, except @slideman  - he's too stupid to do anything like that.  But, Jess-Margaret, shim will be back.
 

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Vegas » Yesterday, 12:50 pm » wrote: It's more than just a tool. A tool is used to make things easier, better, and more efficient. Yes, AI qualifies for that. However, there is another component that AI has that makes it more than just a tool. It can socialize and think for us. The other tools make thinking easier, but it doesn't serve as a complete substitution for it. Why apply critical thinking when AI can do that for us? AI can make humans the tool for them.
No, it cannot think for us. It's artificial. It's using existing human created data to generate a response. There are serious concerns, such as filters already obviously already in place driving politically correct responses. Ask chatgpt about Donald Trump and it refuses to answer. Ask about Biden and it returns some glowing butt kissing. 
 
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Vegas » Yesterday, 10:34 am » wrote: This is still up for debate. Time isn't even defined outside the human definition.
What a silly statement!  The human definition of time is quite adequate for nearly every purpose. So after spending a lot of time in space, an astronaut returns to Earth and we learn that his age has changed by microseconds to his twin who has not left Earth. Big effing deal.
This is like saying "This is a chair. It's purpose is for humans to sit in.", and then saying, well that definition is inadequate: what is the definition of the chair according to the teensy mites that inhabit your eyebrows?  Or according to the nesting robins in the tree outside your door?


 
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Vegas » Yesterday, 11:19 am » wrote: One thing I have learned about American voters is that there is no such thing as an unelectable president. Our country elected a senile pedo. Bill Clinton was a rapist. Trump was a narcissist. Bush Jr loved war. Etc...
Why do you reduce yourslf to playing semantics with a person that won't accept life in real time?

Because you don't accept life in real time either.