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shintao » 29 Jul 2014 9:58 pm » wrote: THEY ARE FREE!!!


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Ricky Tavy » 11 May 2018 9:20 pm » wrote: Socialism is defined as the government controlling the means of production, incredible moron. That is what "government filling in the gaps from capitalism" means, incredible moron. When the government runs the Grand Canyon business instead of McDonald's doing it, that's socialism, incredible moron.

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shintao » 29 Jul 2014 9:49 pm » wrote: This **** face can't read??
I read it. Next time try addressing the actual issue at hand instead of deflecting to an unrelated subject.
Ricky Tavy » 11 May 2018 9:20 pm » wrote: Socialism is defined as the government controlling the means of production, incredible moron. That is what "government filling in the gaps from capitalism" means, incredible moron. When the government runs the Grand Canyon business instead of McDonald's doing it, that's socialism, incredible moron.

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shintao » 29 Jul 2014 11:44 am » wrote: The village idiot expels gas from his intelligence orifice ***!!!!!

According to his cult member heritage, they give the definition of economic freedom, so pay close attention to their propaganda lies.

What is economic freedom?
Economic freedom is the fundamental right of every human to control his or her own labor and property. In an economically free society, individuals are free to work, produce, consume, and invest in any way they please. In economically free societies, governments allow labor, capital and goods to move freely, and refrain from coercion or constraint of liberty beyond the extent necessary to protect and maintain liberty itself. http://www.heritage.org/index/about

Now lets look at reality, something assboy is unable to do on his drugs.

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A survey by NUS in 2001 showed that 88% of the undergraduates had felt there were barriers that prevented them from entering politics, including the fear of authorities. One had remarked that ‘Politics in Singapore is a taboo topic’.
The government in Singapore has broad powers to limit citizens' rights and to inhibit political opposition. In 2014, Singapore was ranked 150th out of 175 nations by Reporters Without Borders in the Worldwide Press Freedom Index. Freedom in the World 2014 ranked Singapore 4 out of 7 for political freedom, and 4 out of 7 for civil liberties (where 1 is the most free), with an overall ranking of "partly free".

So much for assboy having and credibility along with the lying Heritage link!!!
What are you??? A complete **** RETARD???? Economic freedom is the right of every human to control his or her own labor and property..... and you countered the definition with an argument against POLITICAL FREEDOM.... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

You get your debating tactics from Dr. Pot head? :LOL:
Ricky Tavy » 11 May 2018 9:20 pm » wrote: Socialism is defined as the government controlling the means of production, incredible moron. That is what "government filling in the gaps from capitalism" means, incredible moron. When the government runs the Grand Canyon business instead of McDonald's doing it, that's socialism, incredible moron.

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shintao » 25 Jul 2014 11:57 am » wrote:
RichClem » 25 Jul 2014 10:27 am wrote: ~ "There are sources all over the internet. Don't blame us if you're too lazy to read them." ~
He's a wonderment. He really is quite a wonderment, that Glory Hole.

I wonder if he'll storm out soon? He's sure getting the **** kicked out of him - like a piñata
at a quinceañera.


Consider the beating he'd rather take than just admit he screwed up. What a character. :LOL:
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shintao » 23 Jul 2014 9:00 pm » wrote: Try to **** the nurses out of their union pedophile druggie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_9SE0F7uP4
Not in a union and out of all the hospitals in this area, only one I know of has unionized RN's and that's SLU hospital.
Ricky Tavy » 11 May 2018 9:20 pm » wrote: Socialism is defined as the government controlling the means of production, incredible moron. That is what "government filling in the gaps from capitalism" means, incredible moron. When the government runs the Grand Canyon business instead of McDonald's doing it, that's socialism, incredible moron.

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shintao » 23 Jul 2014 6:02 pm » wrote: Hmm, then why did the right do that?
Do WHAT, drunk?
Ricky Tavy » 11 May 2018 9:20 pm » wrote: Socialism is defined as the government controlling the means of production, incredible moron. That is what "government filling in the gaps from capitalism" means, incredible moron. When the government runs the Grand Canyon business instead of McDonald's doing it, that's socialism, incredible moron.

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shintao » 23 Jul 2014 12:38 pm » wrote: Amazing what a dumb **** you are about economic systems. How do you get by, on Jesus?? Take Lunarchit there claiming Greece is a socialist country!! Defies the imagination!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Yes, Greece and Spain are socialist, and Singapore - which owns 30% of the market - is not. Never mind that Obie putting two nickels and a quarter into GM was a what?

A what?


A SOCIALIST! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

These homos have let Heritage paint them into ANOTHER corner. They'll never learn. :rofl:
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shintao » 23 Jul 2014 11:16 am » wrote:It is what makes a socialist system superior to Capitalism.
Speaking of psychotics, look who shows up.


How is Socialist Greece doing, moonbat?

How is Socialist Spain doing?

Socialist France?

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shintao » 20 Jul 2014 10:50 pm » wrote: Only in the sense of the means of production, resources and equipment that create wealth. dumb ****. Personal property like homes, cars, etc. belong to you, even more so than they do in America. You never own you home in America, you only rent it with taxes. Don't pay the rent (taxes) and your *** is out and a new renter moves in who will pay the taxes.
The banks really own everything.
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shintao » 19 Jul 2014 12:41 am » wrote: well idiot it isn't free market *******, and neither is America dumb ****~~~ :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :sleep: :die: :die: :die: :die: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Socialism is a social and economic system characterised by social ownership of the means of production and co-operative management of the economy,[
1]
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as well as a political theory and movement that aims at the establishment of such a system.[
3]
[
4]
"Social ownership" may refer to cooperative enterprises, common ownership, state ownership, citizen ownership of equity, or any combination of these.[
5]
There are many varieties of socialism and there is no single definition encapsulating all of them.[
6]
They differ in the type of social ownership they advocate, the degree to which they rely on markets or planning, how management is to be organised within productive institutions, and the role of the state in constructing socialism.[
7]

A socialist economic system is based on the organisational precept of production for use, meaning the production of goods and services to directly satisfy economic demand and human needs where objects are valued based on their use-value or utility, as opposed to being structured upon the accumulation of capital and production for profit.[
8]
In the traditional conception of a socialist economy, coordination, accounting and valuation would be performed in kind (using physical quantities), by a common physical magnitude, or by a direct measure of labour-time in place of financial calculation.[
9]
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On distribution of output there have been two proposals, one which is based on the principle of to each according to his contribution and another on the principle of from each according to his ability, to each according to his need. The advisability, feasibility and exact methods of resource allocation and valuation are the subject of the socialist calculation debate.
The socialist political movement includes a diverse array of political philosophies. Core dichotomies within the socialist movement include the distinction between reformism and revolutionary socialism and between state socialism and libertarian socialism. State socialism calls for the nationalisation of the means of production as a strategy for implementing socialism, while libertarian socialists generally place their hopes in decentralized means of direct democracy such as libertarian municipalism, citizens' assemblies, trade unions, and workers' councils[
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coming from a general anti-authoritarian stance.[
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Democratic socialism highlights the central role of democratic processes and political systems and is usually contrasted with non-democratic political movements that advocate socialism.[
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Some socialists have adopted the causes of other social movements, such as environmentalism, feminism and liberalism.[
20]

Modern socialism originated from an 18th-century intellectual and working class political movement that criticised the effects of industrialisation and private property on society. The revival of republicanism in the American Revolution of 1776 and the egalitarian values introduced by the French Revolution of 1789 gave rise to socialism as a distinct political movement. In the early 19th century, "socialism" referred to any concern for the social problems of capitalism irrespective of the solutions to those problems. However, by the late 19th century, "socialism" had come to signify opposition to capitalism and advocacy for an alternative post-capitalist system based on some form of social ownership.[
21]
During this time, German philosopher Karl Marx and his collaborator Friedrich Engels published works criticizing the utopian aspects of contemporary socialist trends and applied a materialist understanding of socialism as a phase of development which will come about through social revolution instigated by escalating and conflicting class relationships within capitalism.[
22]
Alongside this there appeared other tendencies such as anarchism, revolutionary syndicalism, social-democracy, Marxism–Leninism and democratic socialism as well as the confluence of socialism with anti-imperialist and anti-racist struggles around the world. The socialist movement came to be the most influential worldwide movement and political-economic worldview of the 20th century.[
23]
Today, socialist parties and ideas remain a political force with varying degrees of power and influence in all continents leading national governments in many countries. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism
That help you *******?

Excellent definition but since it does not suit their meme they will ignore it. You can't fix stupid.
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shintao » 19 Jul 2014 12:41 am » wrote: well idiot it isn't free market *******, and neither is America dumb ****~~~ :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :sleep: :die: :die: :die: :die: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Socialism is a social and economic system characterised by social ownership of the means of production and co-operative management of the economy,[
1]
[
2]
as well as a political theory and movement that aims at the establishment of such a system.[
3]
[
4]
"Social ownership" may refer to cooperative enterprises, common ownership, state ownership, citizen ownership of equity, or any combination of these.[
5]
There are many varieties of socialism and there is no single definition encapsulating all of them.[
6]
They differ in the type of social ownership they advocate, the degree to which they rely on markets or planning, how management is to be organised within productive institutions, and the role of the state in constructing socialism.[
7]

A socialist economic system is based on the organisational precept of production for use, meaning the production of goods and services to directly satisfy economic demand and human needs where objects are valued based on their use-value or utility, as opposed to being structured upon the accumulation of capital and production for profit.[
8]
In the traditional conception of a socialist economy, coordination, accounting and valuation would be performed in kind (using physical quantities), by a common physical magnitude, or by a direct measure of labour-time in place of financial calculation.[
9]
[
10]
On distribution of output there have been two proposals, one which is based on the principle of to each according to his contribution and another on the principle of from each according to his ability, to each according to his need. The advisability, feasibility and exact methods of resource allocation and valuation are the subject of the socialist calculation debate.
The socialist political movement includes a diverse array of political philosophies. Core dichotomies within the socialist movement include the distinction between reformism and revolutionary socialism and between state socialism and libertarian socialism. State socialism calls for the nationalisation of the means of production as a strategy for implementing socialism, while libertarian socialists generally place their hopes in decentralized means of direct democracy such as libertarian municipalism, citizens' assemblies, trade unions, and workers' councils[
11]
coming from a general anti-authoritarian stance.[
12]
[
13]
[
14]
[
15]
[
16]
[
17]
[
18]
Democratic socialism highlights the central role of democratic processes and political systems and is usually contrasted with non-democratic political movements that advocate socialism.[
19]
Some socialists have adopted the causes of other social movements, such as environmentalism, feminism and liberalism.[
20]

Modern socialism originated from an 18th-century intellectual and working class political movement that criticised the effects of industrialisation and private property on society. The revival of republicanism in the American Revolution of 1776 and the egalitarian values introduced by the French Revolution of 1789 gave rise to socialism as a distinct political movement. In the early 19th century, "socialism" referred to any concern for the social problems of capitalism irrespective of the solutions to those problems. However, by the late 19th century, "socialism" had come to signify opposition to capitalism and advocacy for an alternative post-capitalist system based on some form of social ownership.[
21]
During this time, German philosopher Karl Marx and his collaborator Friedrich Engels published works criticizing the utopian aspects of contemporary socialist trends and applied a materialist understanding of socialism as a phase of development which will come about through social revolution instigated by escalating and conflicting class relationships within capitalism.[
22]
Alongside this there appeared other tendencies such as anarchism, revolutionary syndicalism, social-democracy, Marxism–Leninism and democratic socialism as well as the confluence of socialism with anti-imperialist and anti-racist struggles around the world. The socialist movement came to be the most influential worldwide movement and political-economic worldview of the 20th century.[
23]
Today, socialist parties and ideas remain a political force with varying degrees of power and influence in all continents leading national governments in many countries. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism
That help you *******?
Yes, none of what I mentioned is socialism. Anything else, *******? :LOL:
Ricky Tavy » 11 May 2018 9:20 pm » wrote: Socialism is defined as the government controlling the means of production, incredible moron. That is what "government filling in the gaps from capitalism" means, incredible moron. When the government runs the Grand Canyon business instead of McDonald's doing it, that's socialism, incredible moron.

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shintao » 18 Jul 2014 6:02 pm » wrote: Subsidized business, energy, etc. I say it does, we just don't do socialism very good yet, and you are lulled into your sleep mode a lil early in the day.
WHAT is socialism, RETARD?
Ricky Tavy » 11 May 2018 9:20 pm » wrote: Socialism is defined as the government controlling the means of production, incredible moron. That is what "government filling in the gaps from capitalism" means, incredible moron. When the government runs the Grand Canyon business instead of McDonald's doing it, that's socialism, incredible moron.

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shintao » 14 Jul 2014 9:26 pm » wrote:
SO George W. Bush, 1.6% (previously 1.7%) WAS IN COMPLETE MISERY~~~~~~~~~
SO George H.W. Bush, 2.1% WAS IN COMPLETE MISERY~~~~~~~~~
Gerald Ford, 2.2%
SO Dwight Eisenhower, 2.5% WAS IN COMPLETE MISERY~~~~~~~~~
SO Richard Nixon, 3.0% WAS IN COMPLETE MISERY~~~~~~~~~
SO Jimmy Carter, 3.2% WAS IN COMPLETE MISERY~~~~~~~~~
SO Ronald Reagan, 3.5% WAS IN COMPLETE MISERY~~~~~~~~~
SO Bill Clinton, 3.8% WAS IN COMPLETE MISERY~~~~~~~~~
SO Lyndon B. Johnson, 5.0% WAS IN COMPLETE MISERY~~~~~~~~~
AND John F. Kennedy, 5.4% WAS FEELING RIGHT & UPTIGHT~~~~~~~~~~~~~

But was Carter the worst President for GDP? No you **** fool!!! Read it and weep!!! bush brothers were idiot~~~ :rofl: :rofl:
I guess you don't understand trajectory. As I said, Carter was handed an economy growing at over 5%, and drove it into the ground, leaving with it at a -0.2%
I know math is hard for you publicly educated liberals. I apologize if this is difficult for you to understand.
ES » 07 Oct 2014 11:23 am » wrote:I've been doing face plants before your lies ever darkened any political forum.
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Technocrat » 04 Sep 2014 12:15 pm » wrote: British invented English, you know.
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shintao » 09 May 2014 5:25 pm » wrote: :blink: wtf did you say?

Read it in context shinty. Cannon is arguing that wall street is writing regulation was in turn is killing entrepenuership. And killing jobs. I argue that wall street is not writing regulation that is killing either.

This is what happens when your troll and attach yourself to a conversation. :rolleyes:
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shintao » 04 May 2014 2:59 pm » wrote:
Free market enterprise is a **** joke, and a myth. Its like a pipe dream of dreamers and lunatic ramblings. Orson Wells might have that in a book somewhere. :)
Thanks for proving my point that libs are communist pigs. :clap:
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shintao » 04 May 2014 12:19 pm » wrote:I used to have a manufacturing business, and when I set it up in this two story warehouse, the city thought it would be a good idea to have a sprinkler system. So I have an uncle with a general contracting license and hired him to install it, and that way I could do the labor. Nope the city said, you have to have one of these two local fire extinguisher company's install the system. So I did a little investigation and found out both companies were owned by the same guy.
Now, magnify that to the federal level, which is a thousand times less answerable. You could conceivably have hired a lawyer and filed suit, gotten discovery and successfully sued the city. Or, conceivably, you could have gotten the feds to go after these guys - with that much money on the table, other interests are at stake. After all, there are just a few crooks involved in what you described. Even if they are well connected at the state level, if they go down, the world keeps turning with no serious bruising.

That does not make local corruption a GOOD thing, but it makes it a tad less insurmountable than entrenched interests on Wall Street protected by the Underwriters Laboratory as a first ring of defense. The type of corruption you are pointing to is with us, has always been, will always be. People, like water, take the path of least resistance - that's why we have crooked rivers and crooked people. The type I am trying to expose in this thread was overthrown in 1776, and did not creep back in until the railroads needed building.

Capitalism is straight up KILLING free enterprise - making it against the law.
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shintao » 04 May 2014 12:08 pm » wrote:
That is great, if you are 30 years old, have a garage full of tools, and the money to pay cash for the materials, and climb your roof to install the units. Buying a solar panel kind of eliminates the need of any of those things, so the 90 year old grandma can get them installed on the roof for her house on a loan. Most men can't check the oil in their car or change a tire, so you are talking about a limited number of people who could even find the video, concentrate on what it says, get the parts gathered, etc. :wave:
Many are less handy than in previous generations, but there are millions of men in America who CAN do that. The assembly is labor intensive, but far from insurmountable. The start up costs are negligible, beside the potential profits. A man could easily make a living in the top 5% of earners with a start up investment of a few thousands, perhaps even several hundreds.

But the ground between 400 bucks in COGS and a (theoretical, manipulated, artificial) potential sale price of 14,000, is protected turf. It belongs to Wall Street, protected by UL and the government gun. Not only is it disallowed to introduce non-UL to the grid, but it is becoming unlawful to live OFF grid, so that even if one were situated and inclined to capture the efficiency ONLY FOR ONE'S SELF, one would catch a bullet for one's efforts.
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shintao » 04 May 2014 12:08 pm » wrote: That is great, if you are 30 years old, have a garage full of tools, and the money to pay cash for the materials, and climb your roof to install the units. Buying a solar panel kind of eliminates the need of any of those things, so the 90 year old grandma can get them installed on the roof for her house on a loan. Most men can't check the oil in their car or change a tire, so you are talking about a limited number of people who could even find the video, concentrate on what it says, get the parts gathered, etc. :wave:
Speak for yourself, and the guys you run with. Myself, and most of the guys I know are very capable, and handy with just about any tool. But hey, we are Alaskans. Use to depending on ourselves.
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shintao » 19 Feb 2014 8:36 pm » wrote:I need to redo this

Just some simple math shows that Carter created 10,300,000jobs/4yrs = created 2,575,000 yr.,

and Raygun created 16,100,00jobs/8ys = 2,012,500 yr.

Looks to me like Carter created 562,500 more jobs a year than Raygun. Everything else is BS!!!
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it does not matter how many jobs are created. The jobs lost and required to be created to keep up with population growth need to be equal or less than that number of jobs created or we lose. Currently we need more than 545,000 jobs a month to keep up with population growth. But listen to the administration crow about 250,000 jobs created in a month and later downgrade that number. Reagan created real jobs that increased the % of people working. Clinton grew the % a little. Bush caused some drop and then leveled but Obama has taken us below the end of Carters stagflation.

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shintao » 19 Feb 2014 7:47 pm » wrote:
Just some simple math shows that 10,300,000/4yrs = 2,575,000
yr., and Raygun had 16,100,00/8 = 2,012,500
yr. Looks to me like Carter created more jobs, and more jobs a year than Raygun. Everything else is BS!!!
Maybe Forbes is lying? To make carter look good?

I mean, you can't trust the librul meedja. :huh:
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