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peepee » Today, 8:37 am » wrote: ...hopefully someday the nazi retards here catch on to what the ?genius milton friedman is talking about here...

THE 4 WAYS YOU CAN SPEND MONEY/DIRECT RESOURCES:

[....intelligent people favor number 1, wasteful nazi retards like 0mh and sjc favor number 4...]  Image  
  1. You can spend your own money on yourself. When you do that you really watch what you’re doing, and you try to get the most for your money.
  2. You can spend your own money on somebody else. For example, I buy a birthday present for someone. Well, then I’m not so careful about the content of the present, but I’m very careful about the cost.
  3. I can spend somebody else’s money on myself. And if I spend somebody else’s money on myself, then I’m sure going to have a good lunch!
  4. I can spend somebody else’s money on somebody else. And if I spend somebody else’s money on somebody else, I’m not concerned about how much it is, and I’m not concerned about what I get.

Is that supposed to be some profound insight?  Or a metaphor?  Cuz on its face your post is banal
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peepee » Today, 7:52 am » wrote: ...i would not have 'our' money 'borrowed into existence'...

...it seems to me 'the individuals' who get 'first use' in your vision are some government apparatchiks [and their favorite$...i wonder who they would be?!]
Sorry to interrupt. We've already agreed on that. That's what we're discussing changing. As I am not defending it and you are not defending it, we needn't really rehash it - need we?

Let's get to the part where you finally correct me instead of name calling me. I am a far more eager student than you are an eager teacher.
peepee » Today, 7:52 am » wrote: instead of some secret-squirrel bankster cartelier$ who enjoy first use now... i want individuals to share equally in the benefits/privileges of 'first use' not some secret-squirrel bankster cartelier$ or the same class of people who give us the CIA, the republican$ and democrat$, etc. [email protected] galore...  
I hope that my post made it clear I am in agreement. So let's move it along to the part where you clarify my bad thinking and set me on a correct path - the path you have mastered over these past three decades.
peepee » Today, 7:52 am » wrote: ...as an aside, i used to be a gold-bug [email protected] remember the words of uncle hank as he bellowed Image at me many times, (((((THE SAME SECRET SQUIRREL$ WHO CONTROL ALL THE FEDERAL RESERVE NOTES NOW WILL CONTROL ALL THE GOLD IN YOUR 'GOLD-MONEY SYSTEM')))))

...and i don't care much for squirrels but i truly despise the $ecret $quirrel$...
Okay, buddy.

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peepee » Today, 8:09 am » wrote: ...and you have no business in this discussion, bizarre :o  trumptarded monetary ignoramus...word...  ;)  
 
My business is adapting to space mutually timed apart here. You playing back door political policy wonking affects me time being me. Butterfly effect from biology eternally separating ancestors apat now. Everything people do effects every lifetime existing forward when laws demand recycled mistakes make better tomorrows for those in command. Not so much for those trained to demand human rights by word of law or God.

hope, faith, charity is used against ancestry to save typecast role playing people from being recognized as the tyrants they been throughout history in the making to be used against arriving great great grandchildren today.

I know how corruption spreads one generation into the next. Your time fooling yourself is over. Final conflict is defending the original sin.

life's a ******* when you weave webs of self deception. A person can actually enjoy the time biology gave them at conception when not playing 24/7 mind trap social order.

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peepee » Today, 8:15 am » wrote: ...but when you vote you go the traditional [stoooooopid [email protected]] 'republican route' like some 50,000,000 other stoooooooopid [email protected] republican 'intellectual traditionalists'...  ;)   
 
what separates human rights of character projection from genetic liberty to remain one of a kind? context not migrating molecular content sustaining both inorganic universal positions but ancestral displacements as specifically timed apart here.

want to make fun of reincarnation while evolving is a universal exchange of did and does continue existing in an environment where forms never stay same shape as combined so far as a planet or ancestries to the whole food chain in its atmosphere.

Finite molecular matter sustaining infinite shapes formed in specific numbers universally here now. 7 degrees of separation dickhead. Not 6.

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peepee » Today, 7:52 am » wrote: ...i would not have 'our' money 'borrowed into existence'...

...it seems to me 'the individuals' who get 'first use' in your vision are some government apparatchiks [and their favorite$...i wonder who they would be?!] instead of some secret-squirrel bankster cartelier$ who enjoy first use now... i want individuals to share equally in the benefits/privileges of 'first use' not some secret-squirrel bankster cartelier$ or the same class of people who give us the CIA, the republican$ and democrat$, etc. [email protected] galore...  

...as an aside, i used to be a gold-bug [email protected] remember the words of uncle hank as he bellowed Image at me many times, (((((THE SAME SECRET SQUIRREL$ WHO CONTROL ALL THE FEDERAL RESERVE NOTES NOW WILL CONTROL ALL THE GOLD IN YOUR 'GOLD-MONEY SYSTEM')))))

...and i don't care much for squirrels but i truly despise the $ecret $quirrel$...

what you want is so much fantasy.  I want a living breathing Care Bear that shoots rainbows out of its chest.  

humans build heirarchies.  Egalitarianism (?) is lacking because the capabilities among people are vastly different, and people are self interested and always seeking unilateral advantage over others.  Look up the prisoners dilemma, study game theory and the quandary that biologists wrestle with trying to understand how traits of altruism managed to survive through centuries of evolutionary demand for cruelty.

You don’t understand human nature.  The only thing that mitigates the unrelenting greed and will to power is when the one you seek to dominate looks and talks and acts like you, because that dynamic fosters more empathy and (outside of psychopaths which make up only about 1% of the populace) a spirit of brotherhood.  Diversity fails.

In a society fractured by racial differences, language barriers, and cultural clashes, there can NEVER be anything even CLOSE to what you hope for.  The more diverse the people, the less equality there will be, in matters of money and power.  
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peepee » Today, 8:05 am » wrote: ...i just want to help you express yourself at the polls, dummy... instead of having only the 'choice' to cast a positive vote for an admitted evil i want you to have another choice: to cast a negative vote for the worst evil...i.e. taking one vote away from the worst evil...

...this way you wouldn't be as much of 'the problem' as you have apparently always [stooooooooopidly] affirmed/'legitimized' evil at the polls, ye one-in-150,000,000 republicrat dummy..  ;)  
 
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peepee » Today, 7:52 am » wrote: ...i would not have 'our' money 'borrowed into existence'...

...it seems to me 'the individuals' who get 'first use' in your vision are some government apparatchiks [and their favorite$...i wonder who they would be?!] instead of some secret-squirrel bankster cartelier$ who enjoy first use now... i want individuals to share equally in the benefits/privileges of 'first use' not some secret-squirrel bankster cartelier$ or the same class of people who give us the CIA, the republican$ and democrat$, etc. [email protected] galore...  

...as an aside, i used to be a gold-bug [email protected] remember the words of uncle hank as he bellowed :wah: at me many times, (((((THE SAME SECRET SQUIRREL$ WHO CONTROL ALL THE FEDERAL RESERVE NOTES NOW WILL CONTROL ALL THE GOLD IN YOUR 'GOLD-MONEY SYSTEM')))))

...and i don't care much for squirrels but i truly despise the $ecret $quirrel$... 
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peepee » Today, 7:20 am » wrote: :rolleyes:  
...cut it out...take responsibility for your support of these republicrat puppet$...

...granted, there are some 150,000,000 of you gd fool bidumptarded voters/supporters/enthusiasts  :o   so you are only some 1/150,000,000th of the 'stooooooooooopid [email protected]' problem in 'murca...  

...one wonders what 'the vote tallies' would look like if people had the option of casting a 'negative vote'...i.e. having the ability to use our one vote/'voice' to 'take one away' from the worst of the puppet @sshole$ that you bidumptards offer as 'choices'..  ['choices'.....  :rofl:   :die:  ] 

 
you don't read very well. I vote for the lesser of two evils deniers in control give me to pick from since I cannot stop denial practiced by each franchised reality framing the humanities of intellectual souls.

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peepee » Yesterday, 7:35 am » wrote: ...please do me a favor and merely copy and paste saussy's best 100-200 consecutive words as to (((((THE MONEY))))... ...money creation and issuance in particular...then maybe i can find out what fascinates you about his idea$...

...you'll have to define 'hard currency'...'fractional reserve' is, of course, fraudulent...worse, it empower$ (((((SOME UNKNOWN OWNER$ AND INSIDER$...YOUR REAL MA$TER$...NOT THE RED AND BLUE PUPPET$ BARELY BENEATH THE SURFACE OF EVERY REPUBLICRAT Image  LEVEL DISCUSSION HERE..))))  Image  

...i envision a system where any us citizen [who wants one] has an account with the treasury...this is where a pro-rata system of money issuance would occur...it could 'come into being' as mere numbers or token pieces of paper, token coins, etc. which represent these number$...individuals would get first use... 

...i would carve out some percentage of newly-created money for 'legitimate government functions/operation$'...i  would encourage/DEMAND (((((VIGOROUS, OPEN, HONEST DEBATES AS TO 'LEGITIMATE GOVERNMENT FUNCTIONS/OPERATIONS)))))... certainly not the republicrat-level, puppet $hit-$how, 'debate'  Image   we see today where brain-laundered, monetary ignoramus trumptards and bidentards  Image  dominate!  Image  

... Just out of morbid curiosity, what is it that ((((YOU))) envision as a replacement, if any? How would money come into being in your favorite system, and who would get first use?    
My vision is simply the government taking over the federal reserve bank, keeping everything except its owners. 

This would have outcomes not unlike your own vision, in that money would still be borrowed into existence by individuals - but the individuals would get first use, and the interest would be sufficient to cover the cost of banking - one half to one percent, depending on the purpose of the borrowing. 
 
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peepee » Yesterday, 8:05 am » wrote: ...stop worrying about 'the counting of the votes' between the beavis biden puppet and your butthead trump puppet.... only a dense @sshole would quibble here..  :wave:  

..the real problem is that your stoooooooooopid [email protected] republicrats dominate our ballots with your beavis and butthead puppet$, you [email protected] fool...  ;)  

 
Never have, I explain how it was done and why people do it, not doing nothing about it. I cannot stop you being completely corrupted, that is on you. but know this, beyond any belief, biology eternally separates reproduced cycles timed apart now as a whole food chain your social identity is just denying your body is equally timed part of that evolving.

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peepee » Yesterday, 7:48 am » wrote: ...run along...there are plenty of bidumptarded threads here where you can suck republican puppet  Image  [email protected] and jeer at puppet$ hillary and valerie jarrett...  ;)  
 
I have nowhere to go but live within my skin among those that loath what life actually does in real time. I know how Karma exists kinetically.

Speaking of puppets to string theories like economics, you really want to get into compounding interest compiled over 350 generations of your ancestry denying biology actually keeps reproductions eternally separated now?

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peepee » Yesterday, 7:35 am » wrote: ...please do me a favor and merely copy and paste saussy's best 100-200 consecutive words as to (((((THE MONEY))))... ...money creation issuance in particular...then maybe i can find out what fascinates you about his idea$...

...you'll have to define 'hard currency'...'fractional reserve' is, of course, fraudulent...worse, it empower$ (((((SOME UNKNOWN OWNER$ AND INSIDER$...YOUR REAL MA$TER$...NOT THE RED AND BLUE PUPPET$ BARELY BENEATH THE SURFACE OF EVERY REPUBLICRAT :o  LEVEL DISCUSSION HERE..))))  ;)  

...i envision a system where everyone has an account with the treasury...this is where a pro-rata system of money issuance would occur...it could 'come into being' as mere numbers or token pieces of paper, token coins, etc. which represent these number$...individuals would get first use... 

...i would carve out some percentage of newly-created money for 'legitimate government functions/operation$'...i  would encourage/DEMAND (((((VIGOROUS, OPEN, HONEST DEBATES AS TO 'LEGITIMATE GOVERNMENT FUNCTIONS/OPERATIONS)))))... certainly not the puppet $hit-$how in which the monetary ignoramus trumptards and bidentards  :o   participate!  ;)  

... Just out of morbid curiosity, what is it that ((((YOU))) envision as a replacement, if any? How would money come into being in your favorite system, and who would get first use?    
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peepee » 26 Jul 2021, 10:25 am » wrote: Image  

...most of 'the hippies' favored huge government involvement [just like you fascisTARDS] in the economy, etc....only a [email protected] fascisTARD would call them 'libertarians'...   Image

What percentage would you say "most" encompasses, grumpy retard?
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peepee » 22 Sep 2021, 9:15 am » wrote: he and ?you are where i was 30 years ago as to ((((THE MONEY))))...i.e. a republicrat-level monetary ignoramus.... 
Let me get this straight.

You are THIRTY YEARS ahead of me on the money, and rather than educate me, you name call me?

What is your agenda, fruit cake?

Have I not been the one fellow on this board to side with you, time after time? And have you not taken every opportunity to seize on a word, a phrase, in order to pick a fight?

Just tell me this. Are you in a nursing home? Be honest.
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peepee » 22 Sep 2021, 9:25 am » wrote: Image  

...remember [email protected]$$, ((((THE MONEY)))) is 1/2 of every economic transaction ... your ignorance about ((((THE MONEY)))) renders your 'observations'  Image   about 'economics' as $hit, [email protected]   Image  

...stick to critiques Image  of the puppet$, tranny talk, etceterot... here you are very familiar with the ideas...you fit right in...  Image

Look here kemo sabe, if you even learned the function of wampum in pre colonial north America, it would be a step up for your knowledge of currency and coin.  Start with the basics muchacho
 
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peepee » 22 Sep 2021, 9:15 am » wrote: Image  

...AGAIN, i favor 'equality under the law' ['egalitarianism']..
OH?

Me, too.

Glad we could agree. Image
peepee » 22 Sep 2021, 9:15 am » wrote:  i believe you'll find he was a gold bug...another [email protected] fool who didn't get it...
I would suggest that his writing books exposing the fed did more than your name calling on some backwater forum administered by an idiot savant of dubious sexual orientation. But hey - you have some need to call your betters stupid. 

Just out of morbid curiosity, if you are against both hard currency and fractional reserve, what is it that you envision as a replacement? How would money come into being in your egalitarian system, and who would get first use?
 
Try to respond calmly, without all the crackpot fulminations and all the you-damned-kids-stay-off-my-grass. Don't make me call the nurse.
 
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peepee » 22 Sep 2021, 9:43 am » wrote: ...this [and many more hideous thing$ about which you are clueless] is what happens when you republicrat-level authoritardians allow/promote 'your'  Image  government to be taken over by the $ecret $quirrel$...   Image

so no comment about the OP,  just ad homs.  Not surprising
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peepee » 22 Sep 2021, 9:15 am » wrote: :blink:  

...AGAIN, i favor 'equality under the law' ['egalitarianism']...i don't favor 'special rights' for anyone, strawman-building red-herring choker... :loco:  [...especially your backroom-dealing 'genius' :rofl:  nazis whom you and [email protected] sjc would have directing all ((((THE MONEY)))) in your wet dream$ about some new hitler jesus government...  ;)   

...as to 'solid info links' i give you 'peepee on money'... viewtopic.php?p=1795625#p1795625
...stick to my posts and maybe ingo's for some 'solid info'... some weird worthless diversions here from republicrat-level folks but tmk this is the best discussion/best info about ((((THE MONEY)))) on any political forum...if you disagree please merely link to a better one or stfu...  ;)  

...as to saussy, we've been there done that...i read his 'rulers of evil', not 'miracle on main street'... i believe you'll find he was a gold bug...another [email protected] fool who didn't get it... he and ?you are where i was 30 years ago as to ((((THE MONEY))))...i.e. a republicrat-level monetary ignoramus....  ;)  
ha ha ha ha equality under the law. priceless. Biology equally centers each replacement occupying time in the space their flesh exists conceived to decomposed at the ancestral displacement their time lasted evolving to current population present without a word of maybe it works any other way..

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peepee » 21 Sep 2021, 9:16 am » wrote: ...it's your orange  Image  mouth that gives you away, trumptard... 

...the republican politicians whom you support are big supporters of prohibition, you dense @sshole!... get real, you gd fool...  Image

Thanks for admitting you made up my position for me. Now kindly, **** OFF. 
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peepee » 21 Sep 2021, 7:39 am » wrote: ...you spend all day long flattering the most bizarre 'one male'  Image  republicrat-level @sshole here......  Image
Yes, you fruit cake - omh is famous board-wide as a chronic and world-class flatterer. A veritable fawning sycophant - and apple polisher, I tells ya.

You live in a world of delusion, boy. Image   Image  
 
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