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Heard in the news today that Trump is tinkering with the idea of announcing a run for president in 2024 in July due to the heat of the congressional Jan 6 commission hearings likely causing a criminal indictment by the Justice Department - which by the way has it's own investigation going on.
Note: Justice just recently ceased electronics from Jeffrey Clark's home, which was prosecuted by a warrant for probable cause.
Clark was working for the Trump administration as an environmental lawyer, and because he went along with the big lie, Trump wanted to make him the new AG at the end of his term. The only reason this didn't happen was because the white house lawyers all said they would resign immediately if it did.
Trump is tearing this country apart with lies and conspiracy theories that sadly abound all over the internet. QAnon, etc... the lies, the connections to racist Nationalist movements, all culminating directly to an insurrection against the US capital and democracy as we know it.
At this point, the Justice Department has no choice but to indict Trump and all those who participated in the Coup against our Democracy!

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The last impeachment trial was a joke in the Senate.
Here Mitch McConnell clearly states Trump was guilty of inciting the Jan 6 riot on our Nations Capital, and yet he voted against impeachment leaving open the opportunity for Trump to run once again.
Desantos in Florida and all the crazy nuts in that state ban a precalculus book which as a small chart at the end of one of the chapters about racism in the US. The chart was being used to illustrate how math is used in the real world. A few crazy white parents were given the mission to scan through the math books - A. obviously they do not understand math, and - B. what right do they have decide how math is taught in public schools when any normal and fair-minded person would finds this absurd at best?
None of these nuts even knows what cricial race theory is - and the truth is it is only taught at the graduate school level in Law School regarding historic public policy laws and the truth behind where our government got it wrong, as well as how it ended up costing us all!
Why are the craziest people in Congress given all this attention!!!
Just like Trump, these crazy right-wing people in Congress are given daily news headlines. It feeds this nonsensical frenzy of bull.
They are the big liars. That's what the Republican Party has become - well has been let's say, and for quite a while now.
Normally you cannot waltz into any Federal Government Building without going through security - that made sense,
And then came Jan 6. Wasn't that enough to show how crazy things have gotten?
They were calling John McCain and now Liz Chaney and Mitt Romney rhinos - I call that a shift to the far far right, to say the very least.
It's fascism and clearly obscene just as much as a Nazi parade, sure they have the right to free speech, but should they garner so much television and radio time without a strong rebuke from actual governmental leaders??? Well boys and girls, if you are an elected Republican leader and you fail to do so - You are 100 percent responsible!!! no if's ands or but's.
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I was watching an old rerun of Dick Cavett where he interviewed Walter Cronkrite at his seaside vacation home. 
Cavett asked Cronkite about his political affiliation and Cronkite who was a news journalist more or less stated
that he was a liberal, but it in a very concise way. 
And I paraphrase:
Well, I'm conservative in the old sense of the word, thinking about things that have worked in the past that made sense, 
But I'm always thinking about where things have gone wrong, I think marijuana, something I've never tried, should
be made legal, or at least it should be decriminalized. I've covered wars, Vietnam was very wrong, I think we 
should be far less ideological and focus more on decency and respect for our fellow man. Oh I suppose you
would say I was a liberal in many respects. I try to be the first to admit when I'm wrong. 

This was an interview that took place in the early 1970's. When Walter Cronkite was American's most trusted
newsman. I was a teenager back then, and I miss that straight forward trusted way about the news, when it 
wasn't about ratings. 

Cronkite was aware of ratings back then, no question about it. We have great journalist today, he would say.
We still do. The thing is, sadly, too many folks believe in nonsense delivered by folks like the deceased Rush Limbaugh, Fox nonsense, and etc... 
When things go wrong, it becomes conspiracy theory. 
Obviously inflation his high, but the pandemic is the cause, the global supply chain is and was a disaster waiting to happen, 
and the US continues to be misguided regarding wrongful wars and military actions. 
The last thing we need is a new cold war with China that would inevitably cause trillions of dollars, especially
considering the existential threat of climate change and our disastrous dependents of fossil fuels, including plastics.

We should always precede with at least some sense of moderation, and sure, some of that olden day conservatism, but not neoliberalism - which should be differentiated from conservatism, in that neo-liberalism which began with Reagan relies on supply side economics, destruction of democratic governmental institutions, 
and a misdirection of global economics for the sake of a non-regulated corporate controlled profiteering that directly created increased inequality and a destruction of social policies. or actual progress which was created by the New Deal. 

 
 

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well, first off, the MAGA crowd fed off of a clinically diagnosed narcissist moron that no US bank would lend to by the name of Donald J. Trump.
second, they seem to have a bunch of crazy people who support this movement at FOX, but what's worse, in the US congress, and I am talking real nu jobs.
so they really screwed themselves there.
it was as if they had an inkling of a terrible idea and then they went with it no matter what. And once things went totally awry, they just kept going.
it was disgusting, and foul, and people just hated the supreme court they had made/
it was very much witch based on William Makepeace Thackeray's chorus of witchery 
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wickedry, self appointed ignorance, gosh awfulness. 

But thank goodness they were in the very thin minority. 
Because those people need help.
And don't we all. 

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A minority of white people today are still racists. And that is indeed a sad state of affairs. That sentiment hurts all people equally. Equality is the best thing going for America, if we can realize it. We need progress, we need to fix the problem. It really does need to be addressed and the true history of this country needs to be realized if we wish to become a great nation some day. The good news is, there's still time!

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Just the opposite. The vast majority of American voters would like to return to common decency. Trump lost, so what, he sucked anyway is what most Americans believe. Let's go forward not backwards.
The brass tax here folks is this, climate change is real. The US infrastructure is dilapidated and the only president who has done a damn thing about it in the last thirty years is Joe Biden. Sure he's old, sure too old to fulfill a second term... But do you really think American voters want to go through another four years with an embittered racist narcissistic idiot whose also old and incompetent, or as Rex Tillerson called him a **** moron?
Answer = No **** way!

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B.See » 31 Jul 2022, 12:48 am » wrote: Don't waste your time with these fascist scum, OG.  Apparently they NEED these kinds of diatribes in order to derive any sense of PERSONAL value or WORTH. 

When in fact, all they DO is serve to remind the REST OF US, Americans of all creeds and colours who don't subscribe to THEIR hateful venom, why they DESERVE to be "replaced."
good advice B.See. Good advice indeed.
I get around and I know the vast majority would be offended here. It would not be allowed in any decent public square.
I'm not phased by it. Seen it before.
 

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The high gas prices are caused by the pandemic shutdown which was world wide if you recall.
And if you recall that far back you probably remember gas prices fell almost as if the carbon fuel industry was falling in a big patch of quicksand.
It came to the point that holding a barrell of oil was a hughe liability.
Once the economy came back, which it did quickly - many economist proclaim far too quickly, the demand soured.
This is the world oil supply, that's how oil is sold.
No president has the ability to change that fact. It's called the law of supply and demand.
And get this straight - we need to get off fossil fuel, should have started this drive 40 years ago!

I think it would be really really great if more people understood how the economy works!
We'd have a much better world if they did.

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The new bill dubbed Inflation Reduction Act of 2022 is a great start towards moving towards green energy! 
While Republicans are angered by the bill, and many on the left didn't get what they wanted, this bill is still
the biggest first step the US has taken in the forty years since scientist all agreed it was necessary.

Conspiracy theorist will take aim at it for sure. That's what they do!
Last week we had 2 1 in 1000 year floods. We have drought and record heat waves all over the globe now.
The hardest part in a rich country like ours is getting past a do-nothing Republican Party that is tied to fossil
fuels and spends its time spilling out disinformation. 

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/2 ... n-00048393

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Walter Cronkite was a journalist.
He actually met Al Capone once.
He covered a large part of WW2
in the field.
He wasn't for drugs, but did think
that marjiuana should be decriminalized
and possibly legal because it was
not at all worthwhile to inprison 
someone who used it.
When asked what party he supported,
he said he was a newsman, and that
if you wanted to call him anything,
you'd have to say he was liberal,
that he tried to hold an objective
mind and continue to learn
as much as possible about 
everything that affected people
and the environment.

Yeah, he was a trusted newsman.
For whatever that's worth!
 

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whoa.
this is a hot little board of discussion. A post made just this morning and all of the reproach.
Well, they don't like it, not one bit of it.
When I was a kid way back in the day, epistemology was a bit more prevalent. Back then you had basic people who were craftsmen, maybe because they had to be, but it was a different world I suppose. I built a canoe, my nieghbor spent all his off time on his canoe which was a beauty I must admit.
He worked as an engineer at Ford Motors, didn't make that much more than those who worked on the line.
Life was not informed, there were horrible things going on, while little tranquil towns existed, horrible goings on all over shaped what we know now as today.
But sadly, things didn't go as planned. You see we lost the thing we decidedly realized was most precious after WW2.
We lost bit by bit the truth and the integrity that inspires it.
First a little here, and a little there, lies, propaganda, conspiritorial nonsense with absolutely no facts, which was conjoined with racisim - a stain perpetuated by wealth, and vileness that existed before not so long ago still shown.

Me personally, I know first hand that diversity is critical to human knowledge and liberal thought. Think what you want to think but an informed citizenry that educates all and fights racism is the only viable way forward - and I know this firsthand.
who said that, who intimated that, Thomas Jefferson, James Baldwin, Sid Ceasar, Admiral James T Kirk, Martin Luther King Jr., or Ghandi?
 
 
 

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You are not bent,
you're just a bit crooked,
less than following the true
North, your compass 
is swerving, 
you've lost your way.

When it's not a fight worth fighting,
and you just got to face
the truthful facts as they sit,

And nobody is gonna blame you for 
admiting to actually caring,

perhaps you'll find your way
someday and 

You'll start to think.

I have to imagine people on the right have people in their own family
that are on the so-called left.

People who spend all their time blaming others with no
real thougths about right and wrong, and what
policies make sense

are not bent forever,
they're just crooked 
for a time - but for how long
is the question.

 
see how this could be worked either way,
I left it open
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Well, you and I both undersand Tump and Trumpism.
It is the final denaturing straw to todays Replican Party that started long ago with the advent of right-wing propaganda.
We both know it starts with lies.
And when the lies got too heavy, instead of denouncing Trump, these now fully collusionist Senators went along with the lies that 
they knew were disgusting because they needed to hold onto power.
And meanwhile, those who were average citizens who were not at all politically savy had already been fed up with government.
They were peaved about globalism. 
Globalism isn't necessarilly a bad thing in theory, and yet it is, has been very much corrupt.
Trump is a fake populist, who was a coaxing sales jerk, crying out against populism, as well as obviously a big time racist narcissisist. They Republican Senators were digusted by him, and yet they decided as a block to look the other way. 
We know he won the 2016 election because people were mad, and Trump came along as a fake populist and they voted for him and he won the election with the help of lies from Russian propagandist who basically used the same playbook as the propaganda that was executed by the Replican party for decades.
And this help put him over the top against Hillary Clinton, who was disliked not only because she was a woman but also because of Bill, who aqueicsed to
neoliberalism which basically started with Ronald Reagan - which was responsible for in no small part for the globalistic inequality, and the corrupt globalism that grew and grew ever since.
Anti-globalism is now laced with fascism and nationalism, and Putin won on that score.

Anyway, polices don't matter to these people. Inflation is meme, to them. The real causes of inflation don't matter because they don't understand any policies other than distrust.
The Republicans spent all their energies on propaganda instead of policies to build sustainable economics and a better world
And it bit them in the ***, and then they all looked the other way like the jerkoffs and scumbags that they truly are.





 

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Conservatism in the US is seemingly bent on fascism. 
I think it's maybe,  kind of tied to the meme that George Soros is evil in a not too distant way.
BTW, Soros sponsored Viktor Orban through school, way back when he was a tiny bit more liberal.
But then, Viktor dismissed Soros, declared him to be an evil leftist. 
The US conservative conspiracy/propaganda network aite that up big time and then made Viktor their
new found hero. 
After years of lies, disinformation, the party on the right felt it important to follow suit and 
support a fascist prime minister of Hungary all of the sudden.
After all, he hates George Soros, as well as immigrants, and to hell with it liberal democracy to boot.
Oh how times have changed. 
https://www.newyorker.com/podcast/polit ... ktor-orban

 

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George Washington Carver held a brilliant, and I mean brilliant scientific mind. That much was extremely evident when he was accepted at Iowa State University in 1891 where he earned a Masters Degree in Agriculture.
He was also a statesmen.
If you go back and study his works you'll find an incredible humanitarianism about his life that is seldom matched in human history.
This is a very racists thread, to say the least.

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FOS » 30 Jul 2022, 7:16 pm » wrote: Earlier I was talking to some southern boomer...who clearly was some sort of conservative. Naturally the general topic of politics came up and he seemed to hold the political belief that 'everyone should mind their own business'.

I have heard this from conservative radio talking heads before. It is clearly some sort of conservative shibboleth. The democrats are bad cause they wanna tell people what to do etc. 

and I responded that you kinda have to mind other people's business because humans naturally form into tribes and it is the entire tribe that wins or loses. I suppose I could have simply mentioned that you have to do something about a murderer or something...but I was curious how he would respond to my comment about tribes. 

and predictably...he insisted that he is not a member of any group. This is another radio conservative talking point I have heard. It is the 'demonrats' who divide everyone by race but the ideologically pure Republicans are all mere individuals. 

I asked him if he considered himself a member of the United States 'group'...and he admitted he was. And I pointed out that if the usa was conquered by Mexico, it would have some impact on his life. 

At this point he got rather emotional and accused me of being a contrarian and he insisted we change the subject. He didn't have any sort of response to these glaringly obvious facts...but he clearly was unable to change his mind and it just upset him that I was pointing out obvious things. Basically, his brain was clearly hacked by the repetition of conservative pundit narratives.

and I cannot help but have a conspiratorial attitude to this...because it seems very clear that the mainstream conservative talking points seem almost deliberately designed to preclude conservatives from acquiring any sort of power. You cannot tell anyone else what to do, therefore you can't have power. You cannot act with any collective effort, therefore you can't have power. Jesus loves everyone and would never cast the first stone, therefore you can't have power. You must treat everyone fairly even of they do not reciprocate, therefore you can't have power. 

There are too many examples of this and it is too obvious so I cannot imagine that the people pushing such narratives do so in good faith. 4he purpose must be to ensure that conservatives always lose. Because if there was a 'right wing' movement that was actually willing and able to acquire power...we know what would happen next. Hitler.
So we get it. You're not just a socialist, and not just a racist, you are a NAZI. 
You swear off all the people who aren't white, and certainly the Jewish tribes, and of course you believe in socialism, but not just any socialism,
only a socialism that is of this purest form, which you surmise is the NAZI form. 

You dislike crazed nutjob politico's such as  Marjorie Taylor Green or Louie Gomert, they are just crazies as far as you are concerned.
You dislike conservative propaganda, such as the now deceased Rush Limbaugh or the fancy Fox sweetie Tucker Carlson because you think they are *******.
You say, well perhaps the idea of manmade climate change holds some merit, and you are even somewhat interested in true scientific method,  but first, and this is absolutely a mandate, you have to be a NAZI first and foremost.

And so, If I get this right, you are a critical thinker, even a believer in science, and true history - as far as you see it, but everything else as far as you are concerned starts with
being a NAZI.

Would that be correct?

 
 

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ScottMon » 30 Jul 2022, 11:51 pm » wrote: Then we would have proof and Biden would have conceded.  Trump was never going to concede.  When asked point blank if he would commit to a peaceful transfer of power, He refused.
we know ScottMon, that truth does not register here in the void.
It's mostly trolls here. They troll for fun. 
I know and you know it's sick. 
But the majority of people are with you ScottMon.
And I know it's crazy, social media is saturated with trolls.
I wouldn't be surprised if half of the people who post on this No holds barred blog, are actually sitting US Republican congress folk.
 
You know, people like Louie Gomert or Karen Bass, or Marjarie Taylor Green who assume different screen names and spend all of their
time here posting.
I mean, that would make sense when you think about it.

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Why would a scientist lie? The major, and I say major concensus is that manmade climate change is not only real, it's already here.

https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/monito ... tal/page-1
 

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We need to get climate bill passed.
The bill is good for Americans and the world,
and this will play out, albeit not immediately.
If the Replicans take the house they will
hold hearings like there is no tomorrow on ****.
But Biden is president for 2 more years no matter what.
That means the bill will remain, if it is passed.
And people will see finally start to see its worth.
In total worth.

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These ultra-originalist Jurors were handpicked by the Federalist society. They all lied at their confirmation hearings. Just like the Republican Party, they have taken the country backwards due to fanatical ideology. The majority of Americans currently have less respect for the Supreme court than any time in our nations history.