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Phelix_Dacat » 10 Aug 2022, 2:52 am » wrote: ↑ The screams of savage indignation over the FBI raid on Trumpdumb's citadel of corruption and golf resort with the confiscation of about 10 boxes of documents is endlessly amusing.
Doing a small amount of digging, the best recount from what we currently know & suspect is found at the Just Security site.
https://www.justsecurity.org/82619/expe ... documents/
Five statutes come into play:
18 U.S.C. 1924
18 U.S.C. 2071
18 U.S.C. 641
18 U.S.C. 1361
18 U.S.C. 793
Lots of caveats in a well written and developed article.
I've also noticed a lot of folks wailing that Trump could declassify anything he wants without a process he, as President, would need to follow. Which is true, though misleading. Once Trump becomes a private citizen, all rules he is exempted from as President come into play. Specifically, Executive Order 13526, signed by President Obama and never revised by President Trump.
Trump, as President, could declassify any documents he wanted, either verbally or in writing, and he could have them in the possession as President. As President, Trump could have classified, unclassified, or declassified documents in his possession.
EO 13526 details the process the documents need to be processed under in order for people who are not the President to possess. Headers and footers crossed out, declassified stamped on documents, by an individual or individuals authorized to make such changes to classified documents, etc.
Meaning, as of January 20, 2021, if Trump is in possession of documents, even if Trump declassified them as per Katel's assurance, but they were not properly processed by Trumps subordinates, those documents would still be considered classified by EO.
https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/th ... nformation
I'd note intent, specifically Trump's intent, is a huge part of these laws and thus that needs to be more fully developed before any real discussion of the merits can be used to reach conclusion that are more than preliminary.
I know the knee-jerk reaction to assign poor intent to Trump is tempting and possibly correct at the end of the day. It's the beginning of the day, and that is not how "innocent until proven guilty" works.
Most amusing, IMHO, is President Trump signed into law in 2018 the "FISA Amendments Reauthorization Act of 2017". It became a felony offense for removing and/or retaining classified documents without authorization, upping the penalty from one year to five years. Karma is having a laugh if Trump is hung by legislation he signed just to stick his finger in Hillary Clinton's eye.
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/PLA ... ubl118.pdf
You may now return to your regularly scheduled temper tantrums, already in progress ...
^^overseas pedophiles for the "We Got Him Now" progressive idiocracy movement
Now we all know what a guy living overseas because he can pick up little girls for sex and not get arrested thinks...we are all a little dumber now from learning such valuable lifechanging FAKE information.
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Blackvegetable » Yesterday, 6:12 pm » wrote: ↑ Two tired notes.
Garland didn't say anything different to FOX.
Cretin.
You have to understand that people who know you consider you a soulless liar, a "man in a dress" pervert and a ****....just ask around
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Cannonpointer » 10 Aug 2022, 5:35 pm » wrote: ↑ YOU'RE ONLY WINNING BECAUSE YOU'RE ALL SO STUPID AND YOU DON'T "GET IT" LIKE DEMOCRATS DO!!!!!
Grifter....Brick...Idiot....I'm trigger so I'm gonna post a pic of me in my underwear...rate it 1-10 with 10 being hot hot hot
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SJConspirator » 10 Aug 2022, 7:31 am » wrote: ↑ Dems vs Repubs , no matter who wins, you’re all screwed!
for the most part they are one and the same leadership wise.....we need someone willing to say "**** you all" and tear it all up but some people can't stand mean tweets much less a good political brawl
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roadkill » 10 Aug 2022, 5:18 am » wrote: ↑ It's no wonder the dems want to destroy Trump.
And quite frankly the dems are admitting they stole the election...why would Trump concern them so much if Biden really won by a large margin?
Biden ran the most pathetic campaign I've ever seen...there's no way he won!
If they lose they are done. You can bet they will scorch the Earth on the way out
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Candidates endorsed by former President Donald J. Trump had another immaculate night in statewide and federal races Tuesday, just a day after the Federal Bureau of Investigation raided Mar-a-Lago. His endorsement record now stands at 192-11.
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.Trump-Backed Candidates Sweep Board Day After FBI Raids Mar-A-Lago.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022 ... ar-a-lago/
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Did they "Get Me Now Yet?"
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.Trump-Backed Candidates Sweep Board Day After FBI Raids Mar-A-Lago.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022 ... ar-a-lago/
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Did they "Get Me Now Yet?"
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nuckinfutz » 08 Aug 2022, 2:02 pm » wrote: ↑ How Mormon officials let it happen
https://billingsgazette.com/news/nation ... e_4cdba896
I thought you were bragging
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roadkill » 09 Aug 2022, 7:54 pm » wrote: ↑ My suspicions may be right...the DOJ may be using the Trump Raid to plant evidence like they did with the Russian collusion hoax.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otRC_w7h8Iw
they are hysterical....another Trump term will be their downfall...they must stop him at any cost....election fraud or whatever it takes
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No wait....it was a teacher....at a government school....imagine that?...no....you don't have to imagine because pedophile go where the kids are....and guess what government schools are teaching your kids?
Teacher arrested for trying to date 15-year-old Louisiana student
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/te ... r-AA10rA82
Teacher arrested for trying to date 15-year-old Louisiana student
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/te ... r-AA10rA82
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roadkill » 09 Aug 2022, 12:33 pm » wrote: ↑ FBI leadership is dead!
They're in bed with the democrats.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLfPjtqIulQ
We no longer have a legitimate government....it's a progressive/rino organized crime syndicate. Money laundering, taxpayer fraud, theft selling the citizens of our country out, drug cartels, human trafficking, bribery...it's all there. The DOJ and IRS is just two of the weapons they use against anyone not part of their club
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roadkill » 08 Aug 2022, 8:09 pm » wrote: ↑ At least we're responding...the left is too coward to come to my thread on the same type of topic.
It used to be fun making fun of idiots except the idiots today are too stupid to realize it
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Notice what dickhead?...you're not exactly a charismatic character worth of real attention...you get ridicule....be happy with that
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I've noticed most of the progressive idiocracy loves cartoons because reality doesn't fit the agenda at all.
I googled word Ginni and it mostly comes up as an *** to mouth maneuver performed by guy men during sex....you say you love it? That's disgusting and very unhealthy on your part...you must love monkey pox too
I googled word Ginni and it mostly comes up as an *** to mouth maneuver performed by guy men during sex....you say you love it? That's disgusting and very unhealthy on your part...you must love monkey pox too
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Xavier_Onassis » 07 Aug 2022, 12:17 pm » wrote: ↑ I think that everyone deserves equal treatment. That is also in the Constitution, I fail to see what is unusual about that.
good then you can understand my constitutional right not to have to participate in your fantasies
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Cannonpointer » 07 Aug 2022, 3:28 pm » wrote: ↑ https://moguldom.com/416914/black-man-w ... gvstcojzgm
Nothing pisses of demonrats more than a runaway slave.
wow...let that be a warning to any and all uncle tom's out there..."*** get back on that porch"....yahazzz bozzzzzz!
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I take it you prefer fake news that lies to you with the kind of lies you need to believe to make sense of your "man in a dress" world.
I saw a "man in a dress" episode in Mississippi a couple of years ago. Some ******* leftist sitting in the ladies room on the toilet will the stall door open...freaked a lady out who ran to the bar and told the bar keep. Damn near became a lynching...but all the guy got was a good solid stomping by a half dozen "good ole boys"...the worst part was the trip down the steps....might say it involved some "Freestyling" downward motion. I got dinner and a "floor show" that day
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just like the russia russia russia, the Jan 6th hoax has taken political prisoners too.
Whether guilty or not...fighting this will destroy your life...that's what big government can do
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Zeets2 » 07 Aug 2022, 11:16 am » wrote: ↑ And it's been going on since the mid 90's when commie Hillary pushed "It Takes a Village" on the dumbest and most gullible liberals!
Look how far we've come, and we need to acknowledge where such idiocy evolved from.
Trump's right....to make it go away you have to pull it out by the roots....bureaucrats and all