who released the Christie emails?

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  1,854 09 Jan 2014, 4:32 pm

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golfboy » 09 Jan 2014 3:29 pm wrote:
"Usually" isn't true, and this information wasn't subpoenaed, it was requested under a freedom of information request.

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2014/01/timeline_of_the_port_authoritys_george_washington_bridge_lane_closure_controversy.html


You should actually understand the subject before making declarative statements about what happened.


Like you did in post #4.
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Posted by Huey
  12,692 09 Jan 2014, 4:32 pm

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Here's the deal. You don't fück with people's commute. Happened here last year. Closed 2 of the 3 bridge tunnels from Newport News/hampton to the south side on the same weekend. 40 minute drives turned into 6 and 7 hour adventures.

Can't wait until the truth comes out on this one. Not the skews truth, but the real truth.
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Huey » 09 Jan 2014 3:32 pm wrote:
Here's the deal. You don't fück with people's commute. Happened here last year. Closed 2 of the 3 bridge tunnels from Newport News/hampton to the south side on the same weekend. 40 minute drives turned into 6 and 7 hour adventures.

Can't wait until the truth comes out on this one. Not the skews truth, but the real truth.


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  48,014 09 Jan 2014, 4:36 pm

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Skeptic » 09 Jan 2014 3:32 pm wrote:

Like you did in post #4.

What in post #4 did I claim as fact, that is incorrect?
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  26,348 09 Jan 2014, 4:53 pm

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Thrash-Ra » 09 Jan 2014 8:08 am wrote:
I'm surfing various sources right now, and all they've said so far in regards to these emails is that they 'recently surfaced' and were released by 'news sources.' Which sources? Where are the names?

The emails were released in response to a subpoena ahead of the hearing in which Wildstein was supposed to testify today.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-christie-emails-20140109,0,1137068.story#ixzz2pwLfO9MQ

BTW, he refused to testify and is being held in contempt.

I'd like to know whose name was redacted and why in the text message exchange with Wildstein.
Apparently that person took some joy in kids being stuck on school buses.

In one exchange of text messages on the second day of the lane closures, Wildstein alludes to messages Fort Lee Mayor Mark Sokolich had left complaining that school buses were having trouble getting through the traffic.

“Is it wrong that I’m smiling,” the recipient of the text message responded to Wildstein. The person’s identity is not clear because the documents are partially redacted for unknown reasons.

“No,” Wildstein wrote in response.

“I feel badly about the kids,” the person replied to Wildstein. “I guess.”

“They are the children of Buono voters,” Wildstein wrote, making a reference to Barbara Buono, the Democratic candidate for governor, who lost to Christie in a landslide in November.

- See more at: http://www.northjersey.com/news/christi ... CKcx3.dpuf


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Regardless of what I think about Chris Christie he is a pretty good politician. So with that said exactly how does having the PA shut down three lanes punish a mayor that did not endorse him? Christie had to know that if this one came out it would go due to hi future political aspirations. And if he did know about it and allowed it he is pretty fucking stupid.
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  48,014 09 Jan 2014, 4:58 pm

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Misty » 09 Jan 2014 3:53 pm wrote:
The emails were released in response to a subpoena ahead of the hearing in which Wildstein was supposed to testify today.

Interesting that your article contradicts mine in this regard.
Mine said that it was part of a freedom of information request, under threat of a subpoena.
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  26,348 09 Jan 2014, 5:03 pm

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Cedarswamp » 09 Jan 2014 9:29 am wrote:
Cannonpointer » 09 Jan 2014 9:14 am wrote:
My guess would be that the agency which SUBPOENAED those emails RIGHTLY shared them (not "leaked" them) with the press.


^^^^That....it's not like just anyone can get your private emails and text msgs.

According to Assemblyman John Wisniewski, chairman of the Assembly Transportation Committee in New Jersey,
the e-mails and text messages were subpoenaed by his committee who is investigating this matter.
They released 22 pages out of thousands.
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golfboy » 09 Jan 2014 3:58 pm wrote:
Misty » 09 Jan 2014 3:53 pm wrote:
The emails were released in response to a subpoena ahead of the hearing in which Wildstein was supposed to testify today.

Interesting that your article contradicts mine in this regard.
Mine said that it was part of a freedom of information request, under threat of a subpoena.


Yet you said a Subpoena had nothing to do with the release. You lied again.

You said they were released by a FOI request, another lie.

"They are heavily redacted by Mr. Wildstein, who turned them over under a subpoena from Democratic legislators investigating the lane closing....." NYT
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golfboy » 09 Jan 2014 3:58 pm wrote:
Misty » 09 Jan 2014 3:53 pm wrote:
The emails were released in response to a subpoena ahead of the hearing in which Wildstein was supposed to testify today.

Interesting that your article contradicts mine in this regard.
Mine said that it was part of a freedom of information request, under threat of a subpoena.

We seem to be talking about two different things.
I'm saying that they were released by Wildstein's attorney in response to a subpoena by the committee investigating the matter in the Jersey state Assembly.
How the press got them I don't know.
All I know is that they were first published in the Bergen Record by a reporter named Shawn Boburg.
I saw him interviewed last night, but he didn't say how he obtained them.
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Huey » 09 Jan 2014 3:56 pm wrote:
Regardless of what I think about Chris Christie he is a pretty good politician. So with that said exactly how does having the PA shut down three lanes punish a mayor that did not endorse him? Christie had to know that if this one came out it would go due to hi future political aspirations. And if he did know about it and allowed it he is pretty fucking stupid.

That's what I was wondering, how the Dem mayor was supposed to be affected by this. .
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  12,692 09 Jan 2014, 5:18 pm

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Thrash-Ra » 09 Jan 2014 4:15 pm wrote:
That's what I was wondering, how the Dem mayor was supposed to be affected by this. .



It is possible is aides did this on their own for their boss and without his knowledge.
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  15,891 09 Jan 2014, 5:24 pm

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No...it isn't.

Christie has apologized. That says it all. Time for some traffic problems!! "Got it, sir."

The dem mayor made the mistake of not endorsing Christie.

Golfboy knew what was being discussed, he responded to the final investigative agency discussed in the previous post. He said a subpoena wasn't involved, and even his link didn't claim that.
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  15,891 09 Jan 2014, 5:28 pm

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All these staffers resigned. There goes some FAT salaries....

"The Associated Press reported Monday that the $8.9 million payroll in the Governor’s Office under Gov. Chris Christie is nearly $2 million more than the payroll under former Gov. Jon S. Corzine and includes 34 people making more than $100,000 while Corzine had 18 people making six figures."
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golfboy » 09 Jan 2014 3:36 pm wrote:
What in post #4 did I claim as fact, that is incorrect?


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Huey » 09 Jan 2014 3:56 pm wrote:
Regardless of what I think about Chris Christie he is a pretty good politician. So with that said exactly how does having the PA shut down three lanes punish a mayor that did not endorse him? Christie had to know that if this one came out it would go due to hi future political aspirations. And if he did know about it and allowed it he is pretty fucking stupid.


Lawrence O'Donnel made the same point. But, how difficult is it to imagine him competent to hold national office if he DIDN'T know?
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Skeptic » 09 Jan 2014 4:41 pm wrote:

Lawrence O'Donnel made the same point. But, how difficult is it to imagine him competent to hold national office if he DIDN'T know?



The "I didn't know" defense has become quite popular in the last decade. Presidents have been re-elected using it.

Ps. I am not sure I want him as president. At the moment I think he would be a better gift for the progressives.
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Huey » 09 Jan 2014 4:43 pm wrote:


The "I didn't know" defense has become quite popular in the last decade. Presidents have been re-elected using it.

Ps. I am not sure I want him as president. At the moment I think he would be a better gift for the progressives.


True! But, some "I don't knows" are more believable than others.

A question I've asked that cons don't seem to want to touch is: If Christie were actually elected, what other event could do more to decisively split the GOP?
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Skeptic » 09 Jan 2014 4:49 pm wrote:

True! But, some "I don't knows" are more believable than others.

A question I've asked that cons don't seem to want to touch is: If Christie were actually elected, what other event could do more to decisively split the GOP?


Ron Paul getting elected?
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GeorgeWashington » 09 Jan 2014 4:54 pm wrote:

Ron Paul getting elected?


LOL OK!

But, I meant something plausible.
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