I have been unable to find resources on the timeline for US mortality/excess deaths. Wikipedia only shows a chart based on excess mortality from Chile, so we can use that as a proxy (as the outbreak was far deadlier in South America compared to North America).RollingRock » 13 Jun 2020, 3:01 pm » wrote: ↑ In three months time? Do you have a link of reference?
People's lives are more important than the economy.
If we need to, absolutely. The trick is getting it right the FIRST time (which we did not do).
Of course. And I prioritize American lives first.
This is another point, which I predicted you would make, that has made you an unwitting supporter of Wall Street's agenda, which I hope you will re-evaluate in light of everything that's happened (given that you are clearly a Bernie Sanders supporter, I doubt you are a big fan of Wall Street)."People's lives are more important than the economy."
What exactly should we have done differently?If we need to, absolutely. The trick is getting it right the FIRST time (which we did not do).
I do as well. Unfortunately, the lockdowns have destroyed many lives, so I surely hope the lockdowns will not happen again.Of course. And I prioritize American lives first.
righteous » 01 Jul 2020, 2:41 pm » wrote: ↑ Demonrat Mayor Durkan got more than a Summer of Love.
Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan really liked BLM when they marched through downtown Seattle, wrecking havoc and burning police cars. She absolutely loved them when they took over a six square block area of her city, calling it a block party and that they would engage in a summer of love. But, when they showed up at her house, she decided that she doesn’t like them nearly so much. Durkan said they scared her family and put her kids in danger. The protesters led by communist city council member, Kshama Sawant marched to her home after she announced that she would no longer support CHOP after a spate of shootings occurred there. But, I don’t understand why she thought it was fine when it was the “common” people whose families were put in peril but suddenly remembered her indignation when it was her family.
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Cannonpointer Jun 30, 2020
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That is a somewhat crude and hateful assessment, but not wrong I guess. If you are into accelerationism these are Heady times to live in. Me, I just hunker in my bunker and think about death a lot. I never used to contemplate my own death before 2020, now I think about it every day. What’s going to get me? Covid? A violent mob? A cop that I look at sideways on a bad day? The giant tidal wave of homelessness that is surely about to flood the streets as all the eviction protection runs out?KFSW » 24 Jun 2020, 5:47 pm » wrote: ↑ Murica is baby country that became to big for its lil britches.
A very immature country. Just look at the presidential candidates.
These narcissistic loons are symptomatic of a sick country.
Putin ran circles around Obama and know Trump. Biden?? LMAO. Putin will *** rape Biden like a drunk Blasey-Ford.
The world continues to trust Russia and China more than WAR, INC *** USA.
Get yer popcorn and watch it unfold
Agree RR. In many Northern European jurisdictions, police officers spend years learning the complexities of dealing with mental illness. Their core objective is to de-escalate and protect people from harm until appropriately trained professionals can respond.RollingRock » 16 Jun 2020, 12:56 pm » wrote: ↑ What if we sent mental health exerts instead of the police?
Seems to me this is a "no brainer." Imo, people with pronounced psychiatric issues should always be addressed by those trained in mental health issues. Thoughts?
https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019 ... and-sweden
progressivecitizen » 03 Jul 2020, 9:32 pm » wrote: ↑ Most of their boards disappeared and now I am getting a browser message telling me there's a risk in entering. Was it taken over by trolls? But this seems to be the same site in a way.
Agree RR. In many Northern European jurisdictions, police officers spend years learning the complexities of dealing with mental illness. Their core objective is to de-escalate and protect people from harm until appropriately trained professionals can respond.RollingRock » 16 Jun 2020, 12:56 pm » wrote: ↑ What if we sent mental health exerts instead of the police?
Seems to me this is a "no brainer." Imo, people with pronounced psychiatric issues should always be addressed by those trained in mental health issues. Thoughts?
https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019 ... and-sweden
I don't know how old you are (I'm assuming 45-50), but I was an avid Internet user back in the mid 90's. AOL, Kazaa, and all that **** Boomers can only dream of using back when you needed to not be a complete tech-retard. (My apologies if you are a Boomer, but you get my implied message)
You had me at twisted testicles.promoderate » 06 Aug 2020, 6:52 am » wrote: ↑ “Efforts to reject the mainstream merely result in a new conformity.” -MIT Technology Review
https://www.technologyreview.com/2019/0 ... -the-same/
The hipster effect: those who want to make anti-conformist statements end up looking almost identical to others who wish to make similar statements. I.e. the guy in skinny jeans and a tie dye shirt with blue hair who is vegan and loves the planet although he has yet to spend one solid day in the wilderness.
Although “tight-fitting jeans can cause urinary tract infections, twisted testicles, bladder weakness and long-term health consequences,” they continue to be a trend among ‘men’ who claim to belong to the counterculture. Not a counterculture I want to be a part of.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.medica ... les/247826
We have evolved through natural selection to work in groups to survive. ‘Herd mentality,’ which is mocked today by all ends of the political spectrum, is subconsciously adopted by many on a daily basis, even when one believes he is rebelling against the norm.
The rise of social media has heightened this effect. When did you last make a decision that wasn’t influenced by a government, corporation, public figure, or something someone else was doing? If you defy a government, you are likely to join a group of individuals who think similarly. If you boycott a corporation, you are likely to take similar actions to others in circumventing it. If you hate a public figure, that sentiment likely came from something another person said.
Humans have a desire to feel special and unique, to feel that they offer something to the world that others can’t or don’t. But to what extent are you willing to go to prove your point, and will it end up harming you in the long run?
Let us put to rest the tired argument that one should or should not take an action because other people are or are not doing it. In the end, you are not special, and there are likely to be similar people who are taking an action for reasons similar to yours. Instead, judge it solely on the consequences it will have for your life and the life of those you will impact.
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Agree RR. In many Northern European jurisdictions, police officers spend years learning the complexities of dealing with mental illness. Their core objective is to de-escalate and protect people from harm until appropriately trained professionals can respond.RollingRock » 16 Jun 2020, 12:56 pm » wrote: ↑ What if we sent mental health exerts instead of the police?
Seems to me this is a "no brainer." Imo, people with pronounced psychiatric issues should always be addressed by those trained in mental health issues. Thoughts?
https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019 ... and-sweden
Rock's experiences working in the USPS seem a lot different than mine.Olivaw » 16 Aug 2020, 6:52 pm » wrote: ↑There are always errors in elections. It happens with in person voting and it will happen with mail in ballots. It seldom matter unless the margin of victory is < 0.02%. Are you confident that safeguards cannot be implemented to maintain that normal margin of error?Rock » 16 Aug 2020, 5:06 pm » wrote: ↑ I have a question for you.You seem like a reasonable person. Misguided but reasonable. Let's say that massive mail in voting is permitted in Nov. Not just absentee ballots which come with way more safeguards. But everyone who is registered to vote is mailed a ballot and then makes their selection and mails it back in. I don't know if you read some of my earlier posts but I am a retired letter carrier for the USPS and I can tell you unequivocally that many (not just a few) but many ballots will not be counted for reasons that I have posted earlier.
So let's say the loser of the election, doesn't matter who, Biden or Trump, hears that possibly thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions of votes never reached their destination. Either through undelivered mail, people stealing ballots, or postal workers not delivering ballots in a timely manner (believe me it happens). What happens next? Lawsuits. Courts involved. Supreme Court. It will be Florida hanging chads x 1000.
Mark my words.
Envelopes will be preprinted and routed by machines. The process needs to be supervised by trustworthy individuals. Ballots need to be turned over to poll workers in bulk, Not treated like regular letters.
One alternative, I suppose, is to allow people to drop their ballot in a secured slot and leave USPS out of it. Unfortunately, I don’t think there’s time to build out the infrastructure.
Thanks for the insightful video.Olivaw » 17 Aug 2020, 6:27 pm » wrote: ↑I’m a fairly moderate / center-lefty so I’m comfortable with the list of speakers. Progressives may be disappointed.
Beau of the Fifth Column is a progressive. He has something to say about the “not so liberal” Democratic Convention lineup. As usual, he is thoughtful and articulate,
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