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Zeets2 » 28 Jun 2020, 9:09 am » wrote: That's because WE HAVE the most just system possible in any economic system, and it's very simple.  You get paid what you're worth to the person in need of a service.  How is it that socialists like you believe that forcing an employer to pay an arbitrary amount to all those performing a similar service is more equitable?  That's the method used by every socialist/communist/Marxist throughout history, and it's been proven to fail every time it's tried because it destroys the individual incentive to improve.  But it remains a popular theory that's continually promoted by the lazy, the inept, and the uneducated because they're destined to be either poor or in the lower middle class for their entire lives.

You need less banker dick in your diet, ***. Private bankers issuing a nation's currency is the opposite of just. In such a system, justice is not possible except at the end of a rope.

You would really profit from less eager **** sucking and more thinking, boy.
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SJConspirator » 28 Jun 2020, 9:15 am » wrote: Our system uses prison labor slavery, with prisoners who were railRoared for crimes they didn’t commit.  We are basically where the Soviet Union was  in the 1950s when it comes to criminal justice.  Dissidents and nonviolent drug offenders are primped to private business by the private prison for profit industry.  Because of all this we incarcerate a much larger percentage of our own citizens that ANY OTHER NATION ON EARTH.

thats the most just system possible to you?

In zeke's defense, he was so busy eagerly sucking banker dick that he didn't think it through.
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Zeets2 » 28 Jun 2020, 9:39 am » wrote: Total ****!  The Soviet Union gave far more power to the State to determine innocence or guilt than the US judicial system.  Beyond that, the people had no power to determine the laws they chose to be governed under or the penalties that the state would enact, unlike what we have in the US. 
 

So you are suggesting that when we vote for ****, we get the **** we voted for? The average citizen's voice is heard and heeded by the leaders they elect?

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Zeets2 » 28 Jun 2020, 9:52 am » wrote: Yes, no question about it!  Now YOU answer this.  Does a person accused of a crime have more rights in this country than any communist or socialist country in the world?  Are you even aware that despite the huge burden of proof needed to convict someone of a crime, over 25% of released prisoners get returned to jail for new crimes they've committed and been convicted of within a year?

Are you even aware that recidivism is an indictment of the system, retard?    
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Zeets2 » 28 Jun 2020, 11:48 am » wrote: Simply because we have a higher number of imprisonment in this country doesn't mean the judicial system is unjust! 
 

What DOES it mean, penis cheeks?
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Zeets2 » 28 Jun 2020, 11:54 am » wrote: Or, you can just go **** yourself instead!  Only in the mind of the most intellectually feeble (or Democrat presidential candidate) can someone be so ignorant as to believe that the creation of money and it's issuance has no relevance to the economic system, you moron!

If you admit that currency issuance is relevant to the economic system, then you give your own game away, dufus. Our currency is issued by private bankers, as debt. That is the opposite of what the founders intended and the opposite of a just market. You need to read and understand the description of lawful money in article 1, sec. 10 of the U.S. Constitution.
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supraTruth » 29 Jun 2020, 9:45 pm » wrote: Unless u earned over $20 million/year, u need to shut your ******* up. It is the middle-class who keep getting shoved into higher tax brackets because of inflation & u asshats letting the elitely paid to skate on progressive graduated marginal taxation that we middle-class are subjected to.

He's a poseur who read Ayn Rand and came to believe that if he sucked enough rich ****, it would make him rich, too.

He pretends that he owned and ran a major company, but his level of knowledge is sophomoric - he has never run anything but his mouth.
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supraTruth » 29 Jun 2020, 9:45 pm » wrote: Unless u earned over $20 million/year, u need to shut your ******* up. It is the middle-class who keep getting shoved into higher tax brackets because of inflation & u asshats letting the elitely paid to skate on progressive graduated marginal taxation that we middle-class are subjected to.
Oh, so you're telling me that the bracket of $200K to $500K got a tax cut?  You're full of ****!  My rate of 35% was UNCHANGED, and yet I had to pay an additional $15,000 because the property tax deduction was eliminated.  So how did the middle class get hurt when the Trump tax cut dropped the rate by 4% for those earning between $82,500 and $157,500 (the MIDDLE CLASS), while the inflation rate for the past 3 years has averaged 1.18%?  I swear, if you stupid liberals had a clue on what you're talking about, you'd be dangerous!  As it is, you can't help but inject your own stupidity into a debate when you clearly don't have a single fact beyond your obsessive hatred for Trump!  So even when he saves you a huge amount on your taxes, you have to lie about it with your mouth while taking it with your wallet!
 

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Cannonpointer » 30 Jun 2020, 4:59 am » wrote: You need less banker dick in your diet, ***. Private bankers issuing a nation's currency is the opposite of just. In such a system, justice is not possible except at the end of a rope.

You would really profit from less eager **** sucking and more thinking, boy.
...you made my blood pressure jump with joy and hellish laughter this morning...

...alas poor old zeet$ [private dildo sok?] has been gutted again...and again....and again.. and duckie ... and any other republicrat dummy who doesn't understand that 'the money' ought to be at the very top of the priorities for intelligent advocates for 'justice'... 

...but i hardly hear a peep...ever..and believe me, i'm listening... [except of course for the odd loud howls i emit after reading cp and a couple other characters...who knows maybe they are all cp soks?]   

 
 
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SJConspirator » 29 Jun 2020, 6:09 pm » wrote: https://www.citizen.org/news/keeping-50 ... ds-secret/

Where did that money go?  My guess:  It went to whoever replaced Jeffrey Epstein in the pedo sex ring business.

THE MOST JUST SYSTEM EVER
 
It probably went into Mnuchin's pocket! He is a notorious crook! Read about One West bank and how he stole thousands of folks homes from them,  and banked billions in profits!    
 

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Cannonpointer » 30 Jun 2020, 5:15 am » wrote: He's a poseur who read Ayn Rand and came to believe that if he sucked enough rich ****, it would make him rich, too.

He pretends that he owned and ran a major company, but his level of knowledge is sophomoric - he has never run anything but his mouth.
...i doubt ZeetZ has read any ayn rand fiction... much much much more importantly, ZeetZ has obviously never read [or understood] any non-fiction about 'the money'....

...be honest, how many republicrats or libertardians, or greens, or independents, etc., under$tand  the hideou$ reality... the inju$tice... economic en$lavement etc...?

...not a peep... but boy don't the @ssholes love to peep about puppet biden vs. puppet trump... strange, twisted, brain-laundered priorities!   
 
 
 

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Cannonpointer » 30 Jun 2020, 4:44 am » wrote: Heavy. I never really looked at slavery from the angle of free choice, but it DOES seem the slave lacks the freedom to choose employers. They get to choose him.

If I were a slave, I would try not to get chosen. I would use bad posture, refrain from proper hygiene, display an unsportsmanlike attitude - try to get sent home.
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user1593523330 » 30 Jun 2020, 9:31 am » wrote: How do you like my new chin?

I went plain brown paper

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Cannonpointer » 30 Jun 2020, 4:41 am » wrote: Is that REALLY the purpose of a free market - to choose a union?

You have some excellent information - thanks.
   

...i've given some thought to a much kindler, gentler, passive-aggressive peepee sok...  fertile ground for vicious comedy... [my favorite] 

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peepee » 30 Jun 2020, 9:53 am » wrote:    

...i've given some thought to a much kindler, gentler, passive-aggressive peepee sok...  fertile ground for vicious comedy... [my favorite]
Hi pee pee the magnificent. I would like that.   So far at least I know who you are. Don't do a sok!

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peepee » 30 Jun 2020, 9:40 am » wrote: ...i doubt ZeetZ has read any ayn rand fiction... much much much more importantly, ZeetZ has obviously never read [or understood] any non-fiction about 'the money'....

...be honest, how many republicrats or libertardians, or greens, or independents, etc., under$tand  the hideou$ reality... the inju$tice... economic en$lavement etc...?

...not a peep... but boy don't the @ssholes love to peep about puppet biden vs. puppet trump... strange, twisted, brain-laundered priorities! 
You brainless idiots are amazing the way you flaunt your ignorance while patting each other on the back with your persecution complexes!  You want to whine about the "injustice" of money and the "enslavement" of your brethren, all with empty pockets to match your empty heads?  Go ahead and enjoy yourselves!  I've found there to be NOTHING so "unjust" about "the money" as you do, probably because I have it and you obviously don't!  And isn't it telling that you think you "understand" it while not having any of it, and you think I don't, while having plenty of it?  Or how you feel so "enslaved" by the system that I've prospered greatly from?  Do you even have a clue how funny you sound?  Apparently, that reality is only "hideous" to you, while I've been able to make it work out just fine for me!
 

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Zeets2 » 30 Jun 2020, 10:06 am » wrote: You brainless idiots are amazing the way you flaunt your ignorance while patting each other on the back with your persecution complexes!  You want to whine about the "injustice" of money and the "enslavement" of your brethren, all with empty pockets to match your empty heads?  Go ahead and enjoy yourselves!  I've found there to be NOTHING so "unjust" about "the money" as you do, probably because I have it and you obviously don't!  And isn't it telling that you think you "understand" it while not having any of it, and you think I don't, while having plenty of it?  Or how you feel so "enslaved" by the system that I've prospered greatly from?  Do you even have a clue how funny you sound?  Apparently, that reality is only "hideous" to you, while I've been able to make it work out just fine for me!
...ZeetZ, you republican-radio-level @sshole, you don't honestly understand 'WHO CREATES OUR MONEY AND HOW DO THEY DO IT?' [and much much more] ...so obviously you see nothing 'unjust'...   

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peepee » 30 Jun 2020, 10:15 am » wrote: ...ZeetZ, you republican-radio-level @sshole, you don't honestly understand 'WHO CREATES OUR MONEY AND HOW DO THEY DO IT?' [and much much more] ...so obviously you see nothing 'unjust'... 
Or just maybe I see the creation of money on an entirely different level because I've done it, while whining crybabies like you can't figure it out!  And maybe worthless slobs like you only see the system as "unjust" because you haven't figured out how to prosper by it as I have!  You don't like the system or the rules?  You're free to cry about it all you want!  Have a ball!  Get back to me when you need advice on how to do it, rather than just talk about it! 
 

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Zeets2 » 30 Jun 2020, 10:27 am » wrote: Or just maybe I see the creation of money on an entirely different level because I've done it, while whining crybabies like you can't figure it out!  And maybe worthless slobs like you only see the system as "unjust" because you haven't figured out how to prosper by it as I have!  You don't like the system or the rules?  You're free to cry about it all you want!  Have a ball!  Get back to me when you need advice on how to do it, rather than just talk about it!
...ZeetZ, nobody worth a crap is impressed by how well you have learned to suck bankster c@ck, you den$e republican @sshole...   

...i would be impressed if you could honestly answer,  "Who creates our money and how do they do it?"... but you can't, so i'm not...    
 

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