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Phelix_Dacat » 30 Jul 2020, 1:41 am » wrote: Whatever you fake *** racist ****.

Go change more of bludog's posts.
Someone sounds butt hurt. The last time I heard "whatever," it was from a teenager who couldn't get the car keys.

I guess you're regretting that stipulation, counselor. But I'm not. Heh heh heh.
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AlDonal » 30 Jul 2020, 1:34 am » wrote: I’ll bet if it were Ed Begley Jr protecting his earth house, you’d be whistling a different tune.Do we really have to explain to you that civil rights are afforded to even those who don’t buy into your regressive liberal crap...those who aren’t currently riveted by White Fragility? The right to protect your animals is a fundamental right, or it should be anyways. You know this whole thing is more of an animal rights issue when you think about it. And you guys claim to be for the underdog, except during abortion. This was your chance. You blew it.
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Cannonpointer » 30 Jul 2020, 1:40 am » wrote: Sure there is - we've all seen the video, you too. But you aren't worth fetching the evidence for, because you are committed to a dishonest and partisan position, evidence be damned.
 
So you've got no evidence, and you're lying that you do.

YOU:   You have displayed willful misunderstanding of what is said, up to and including incompetence to process a simile regarding being insecure in one's own home.

So you've got no evidence, and you're lying that you do.

YOU:    No one is gonna bother googling for someone who is dishonestly clowning herself out.

So you've got no evidence, and you're lying that you do.

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Isabel » 30 Jul 2020, 1:45 am » wrote: I notice you didn't answer my question.
Sigh. What falsely premised pile of dookey did I miss?

Spit it out. I won't have a retard pretending she asked a question I could not field.
Isabel » 30 Jul 2020, 1:45 am » wrote: YOU:    I can already see that you are committed to pretending to be dense. Sigh. Okay - proceed.

And yet you're the one running from a simple question.
Again, tard - what **** question? Spit it out.
Isabel » 30 Jul 2020, 1:45 am » wrote: YOU:    From the mob that crashed through their gate onto their private property, dear. Do you need an aspirin?

I already told you to cite your proof of this. I'll take it from your running from that to mean that you have none.
An I said **** yourself - and take it how you want. I do not care. I do not pretend dishonest folks are honest. I let any witness reach their own conclusion about that policy - those who think me to be dodging are perfectly welcome to their opinions.
Isabel » 30 Jul 2020, 1:45 am » wrote: YOU:    Concern for one's safety in one's own home, from which retreat is impossible - from which one can only advance, the home being one's retreat. How can you keep a straight face, playing at being this stupid?

Safety from what?  That thing you have no evidence for?   OK - time for you to jump around screaming some more.
Yes, dear - safety from what you said.
Isabel » 30 Jul 2020, 1:45 am » wrote: YOU:    No. Try to keep up.  I'm claiming the mob was making the couple feel unsafe in their home - from which there is no retreat.

And yet their empty claims with no evidence to support them mean precisely nothing.
To a retarded partisan ape. To homeowners on a jury, they will mean a not guilty verdict.

Sorry - I lost interest.
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Is a Smell » 30 Jul 2020, 1:52 am » wrote: So you've got no evidence, and you're lying that you do.

YOU:   You have displayed willful misunderstanding of what is said, up to and including incompetence to process a simile regarding being insecure in one's own home.

So you've got no evidence, and you're lying that you do.

YOU:    No one is gonna bother googling for someone who is dishonestly clowning herself out.

So you've got no evidence, and you're lying that you do.
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Isabel » 30 Jul 2020, 1:52 am » wrote: So you've got no evidence, and you're lying that you do.

YOU:   You have displayed willful misunderstanding of what is said, up to and including incompetence to process a simile regarding being insecure in one's own home.

So you've got no evidence, and you're lying that you do.

YOU:    No one is gonna bother googling for someone who is dishonestly clowning herself out.

So you've got no evidence, and you're lying that you do.
Do you have any evidence that David Dorn didn’t die in the same city and on the same night that the McSchlotzskys’ precious animals were under siege?
 
 
 
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Here are Cannon's latest heroes - scumbags who have spent their entire lives suing every person they can, trying to harrass and con and gouge money and property with endless, malicious nuisance lawsuits
Note that the protestors WERE NOT on the McCloskeys personal property. The douchebags were screaming that the STREET was private.

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ST. LOUIS — When Black Lives Matter protesters marched up Kingshighway on June 28 and turned through an iron gate into the magnificent private street of Portland Place, they encountered a couple who have for years, nearly constantly, sued other people and ordered people off their property.

Personal-injury attorneys Mark and Patricia McCloskey became instant national figures when they intercepted protesters marching past their marble-faced palazzo at One Portland Place, aimed guns at them and demanded they get out.

Americans saw the story they wanted to see. Some saw respected professionals fearing for their safety, reasonably exercising their Second Amendment rights to defend their home from violent trespassers. Others saw an overwrought, older affluent couple, recklessly pointing their weapons and asserting their white privilege.

But public records and interviews reveal a fuller picture than emerged two weeks ago. They show the McCloskeys are almost always in conflict with others, typically over control of private property, what people can do on that property, and whose job it is to make sure they do it.

They filed a lawsuit in 1988 to obtain their house, a castle built for Adolphus Busch’s daughter and her husband during St. Louis’ brief run as a world-class city in the early 20th century. At the McCloskeys’ property in Franklin County, they have sued neighbors for making changes to a gravel road and twice in just over two years evicted tenants from a modular home on their property.

Mark McCloskey sued a former employer for wrongful termination and his sister, father and his father’s caretaker for defamation.

The McCloskeys have filed at least two “quiet title” suits asserting squatter’s rights on land they’ve occupied openly and hostilely — their terms — and claimed as their own. In an ongoing suit against Portland Place trustees in 2017, the McCloskeys say they are entitled to a 1,143-square-foot triangle of lawn in front of property that is set aside as common ground in the neighborhood’s indenture.

It was that patch of green protesters saw when they filed through the gate. Mark McCloskey said in an affidavit that he has defended the patch before by pointing a gun at a neighbor who had tried to cut through it.
‘At gun point’
This court record shows the McCloskeys challenged a Portland Place resident “at gun point” who they said encroached on their property.


The McCloskeys have filed many other lawsuits. They sued a man who sold them a Maserati they claimed was supposed to come with a box of hard-to-find parts. In one trip to the courthouse in November 1996, Mark McCloskey filed two lawsuits, one against a dog breeder whom he said sold him a German shepherd without papers and the other against the Central West End Association for using a photo of their house in a brochure for a house tour after the McCloskeys had told them not to.
“I guess we were saving gas,” he would quip in a deposition in another case about why he filed two lawsuits at once.

Mark McCloskey has run off trustees trying to make repairs to the wall surrounding his property, insisting that he and his wife own it. In 2013, he destroyed bee hives placed just outside of the mansion’s northern wall by the neighboring Jewish Central Reform Congregation and left a note saying he did it, and if the mess wasn’t cleaned up quickly he would seek a restraining order and attorneys fees. The congregation had planned to harvest the honey and pick apples from trees on its property for Rosh Hashanah.
‘Attention! This is private property’
Mark McCloskey left this note after he destroyed bee hives placed just outside of the mansion’s northern wall by the neighboring Jewish Central Reform Congregation.

“The children were crying in school,” Rabbi Susan Talve said. “It was part of our curriculum.”


Moreover, the McCloskeys have constantly sought to force their neighborhood trustees to maintain the exclusivity of Portland Place, accusing them of selectively enforcing the written rules for living in the neighborhood, known as the trust agreement.
They filed a lawsuit in St. Louis circuit court to try to force the trustees to enforce the neighborhood rules as written. The McCloskeys dismissed the claim, but the judge would not let them refile an amended version because it “failed to allege a justiciable controversy.”
The McCloskeys appealed all the way to the state Supreme Court to try to make the judge allow them to refile their case, but the effort failed.

One of the rules prohibited unmarried people from living together. Several neighbors said it was because the McCloskeys didn’t want gay couples living on the block. The trustees voted to impeach Patricia McCloskey as a trustee in 1992 when she fought an effort to change the trust indenture, accusing her of being anti-gay.

Mark McCloskey clarified in a deposition much later that the trust agreement barred unmarried people living together, regardless of their sexuality.
“Certain people on Portland Place, for political reasons, wanted to make it a gay issue,” he said.
The former Portland Place trustee who was ordered off the trustee property said he had nothing good to say about the couple. “They’ve always been part of the problem, never part of the solution,” Robert Dolgin said.

Albert Watkins, a lawyer representing the couple, questioned the relevance of any story delving into the McCloskeys’ litigation history and asked the newspaper to submit written questions. The Post-Dispatch sent questions; Watkins didn’t answer them. Watkins invited a reporter to come to his office to view a document in which McCloskey discussed his litigation history but said a reporter could not have a copy nor take notes from it. Watkins later declined to allow a reporter to interview his clients under the newspaper’s condition that the interview be recorded.

By filing so many lawsuits, the McCloskeys opened a large window onto their values and ambitions. Their lawsuits center on obtaining land, keeping people off of it, and forcing people to follow rules or make good on agreements. Sometimes the suits are about collecting damages for harm done to them.
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Mark McCloskey’s relationship with his family deteriorated. He would claim years later that his father, starting in 1989, “became obsessed” with the idea that his son had become wealthy by “swindling” the assets his mother got in the divorce. He says the idea was put there by his sister, Patricia Richards, of Virginia.
In 1994, Mark McCloskey wrote a letter to his father about his “niggardly attitude” toward the 5 acres in Phelps County he had promised in the birthday card.

“The property is essentially worthless, it just struck me as bizarre that you would deny the existence of such a gift …,” he wrote. “I spent several months of my life living out of a tent and building a log cabin there.”
Mark McCloskey wrote a letter to his father about the five acres in Phelps County he had promised in 1976. The letter, written in 1994, became part of a subsequent court record.
His father largely wrote him out of the will in 2008, sparking a family feud that would last eight years.

In March 2013, in Phelps County, Mark McCloskey sued his father and his father’s trust over the gift. The birthday card and earth, he claimed, were sufficient title because they met the legal definition of “livery of seisin,” a ceremony performed in medieval England for the conveyance of land.
In 2016, a special judge ruled against him, writing that “Exhibit 1 attached to the petition is a birthday card, not a deed” and that it was too late to claim ownership of part of the farm. The archaic legal claim, the judge ruled “does not operate as a matter of law to transfer title to real property.”

Mark McCloskey filed a defamation case against his father and sister in 2011, dismissed it in 2012, and refiled it in 2013. By the time of the final filing, Bruce McCloskey was living in a memory care unit in Ballwin; he died in 2014.

Mark McCloskey said his sister had spread rumors that he had held their mother hostage on Portland Place, denied her medical care, made her sleep on an iron cot soaked in urine, and plied her with alcohol until she died. He also said she claimed he was connected to organized crime, had tried to arrange for a contract killing of his sister, and had stolen 42 pounds of gold from his father.
He claimed his elderly father believed these things because he had lost his faculties, and repeated the falsehoods in public, damaging his reputation. He claimed the will was based on “insane delusions” and his sister’s undue influence.
Patricia Richards declined to comment.

He made similar allegations against his father’s longtime caretaker in a separate defamation suit, which he later dismissed.

Weeks after Bruce McCloskey’s death, Patricia McCloskey sent a letter to the law firm handling his estate stating that any attempt to distribute the inheritance would likely be challenged in court.
Mark McCloskey dismissed the defamation case, but he sued his sister and his two brothers and their father’s trust again in 2016, accusing all of them of “tortious interference” for pressing their father to cut him out of an inheritance.
The siblings settled with their father’s trust paying Mark McCloskey $400,000, with all of them agreeing to drop all claims and never have contact with Mark McCloskey again.

The lawsuit between the McCloskeys and the Portland trustees was the latest flare-up in a fight that has been going on almost since they moved in.
In 2002, the Portland Place Association sued to foreclose on the McCloskeys’ house because they were refusing to pay dues. Mark McCloskey would later say in a deposition that he and his wife had refused because the trustees “weren’t doing something, which was their obligation under the Trust Agreement.”
The lawyer questioning him asked: Was it possible the issue was the trustees were allowing a gay couple to live there?

Mark McCloskey said he didn’t know. “I know there has been an ongoing issue about the definition of single family in Missouri law, and that the (agreement) calling for exclusively single family residences wouldn’t allow, technically, unmarried heterosexual people to live on Portland Place. … I know that certain people on Portland Place, for political purposes, wanted to make it a gay issue.”
While taking a deposition of Portland Place trustee Daniel Ladenberger on Jan. 17, 2019, Mark McCloskey insisted it wasn’t up to trustees to decide what rules to enforce. Rules can’t be changed without 75% of the voters approving, he said.
“Do you recognize that part of the duty of a trustee is to protect the rights of the minority; to enforce the trust agreement even if a majority but less than 75% of the people would like to do away with those provisions … even if it’s only 26% of the people who wish to have a provision enforced?”

After the McCloskeys bought their home on Portland Place, they built a 10-foot wall closing it off from Kingshighway, replacing a wall that would have allowed people to come through. In 2004, Dolgin wrote the McCloskeys a letter noting it had come to the trustees’ attention that the McCloskeys had hired a contractor to do tuck pointing on the wall.

“No individual resident is authorized to do work on Portland Place property without the permission of the trustees,” Dolgin wrote.
Mark McCloskey responded that he would no more ask permission to perform work on the wall than he would on his house. “Before you glibly throw around such statements in the future, produce some authority to verify it or be prepared to spend Portland Place Association money in defending a suit for slander of title. This isn’t a game, and we aren’t children.”
Watkins, the lawyer representing the couple, is a friend of theirs and former neighbor who sued the Portland Place trustees in 2010 with a claim that he had tried to get them to take down a sick oak tree which later fell and damaged his property. Watkins lost and was ordered to pay the trustees court costs of $52,000.

The McCloskeys own a large property in Franklin County and have had conflicts with neighbors who access their homes by a gravel road cutting across the McCloskeys’ acreage.
In 2013, Mark McCloskey saw a gravel truck on the road preparing to “grade and ditch” the road, and the couple, without notice to their neighbors, sought and obtained a temporary restraining order against them in Franklin County circuit court.
One of the defendants produced records of an easement indicating they could use the road. A legal battle dragged on for nearly two years, with one of the neighbors racking up $70,000 in legal bills and $9,000 in surveying costs.
That neighbor asked for sanctions against the McCloskeys for “committing a fraud” with their claim. The case settled with all parties paying their own costs.

In 2019, the McCloskeys sued another neighbor with a squatter’s rights claim to 0.41 acres that were fenced off incorrectly and had been maintained by McCloskey and previous owners even though they did not have a legal title to it.
“The Parcel has been continuously possessed by the Plaintiffs and their predecessors in title for a period far in excess of 10 years and such possession has been, in fact, hostile, actual, open and notorious, exclusive, and continuous,” the McCloskeys claimed. The suit is pending.

The McCloskeys also evicted two tenants from a modular home on their property in a period of just over two years. The first, a single woman with three children and her boyfriend, had lived there six months in January 2018 when the McCloskeys filed for eviction, claiming one rent check had bounced. The woman moved out and did not appear in court, and the McCloskeys got a $6,247 default judgment against the couple, which included attorneys fees and rent for the remaining months of the lease.
In an interview with the Post-Dispatch, the tenant denied she had missed a rent payment. She said she had showed up in court for the eviction hearing and that Mark McCloskey told her she had no chance of winning, so she left. She said she had no idea she owed them that much.

The second tenant signed a lease for $950 per month last November, and failed to pay rent in April and May. The McCloskeys filed an eviction suit on May 12 and Mark McCloskey filed an affidavit stating that he was not barred by federal law from evicting someone during the COVID-19 pandemic because the unit was not part of a federal housing rental program.
The tenant did not appear in court. A judge gave her until July 1 to clear out, and the McCloskeys got an $8,299 judgment against her for attorneys fees and the remainder of the lease.

While that tenant was clearing out, the McCloskeys had their encounter with protesters. “My life has been ruined,” Mark McCloskey told CNN host Chris Cuomo two days later, as he defended his actions.
On June 28, about 200 protesters filled the Maryland-Kingshighway intersection, chanting, “This is what community looks like … this is what democracy looks like.”
The group moved south to Lindell Boulevard and filled the intersection for several more minutes. “If we don’t get it, shut it down!”

The protest moved north on Kingshighway again. At Portland Place, protester Derk Brown’s live feed shows he is one of the first protesters to pass through the iron gate held open by protester Tory Russell.
Although the McCloskeys have displayed photos of a crumpled gate as evidence the protesters broke it down, the feed shows the gate is intact. It was not clear when it was damaged.


The first few protesters who enter the private neighborhood swerve away from the McCloskey house to walk in the street.

Immediately, Brown’s feed captures Mark McCloskey under a massive portico on the east side of his mansion. “Hey!” he can be heard shouting. “Private neighborhood! Get the hell out of my neighborhood!”
None of the protesters are on his property — even the disputed triangle.
Brown zooms in on McCloskey, who is wearing a pink Brooks Brothers polo shirt, and narrates: “Y’all see? On my live feed … he got his rifle.”
Mark McCloskey shouts, “Get out! Get out! Get out! Private property!”
A chant builds: “Whose streets? Our streets!”
Moments later, Patricia McCloskey can be seen in her front yard in her bare feet with a silver handgun, waving it at the protesters.
“We’re gonna move, calm down!” someone yells.
“Put that gun away,” someone else yells.
She comes closer to Brown, pointing the gun left and right. “Go!” she yells. “Go!”
One of the protesters yells, “We got kids in here! We got children!”
A chant builds: “Eat the rich!” She keeps pointing the gun.
“Why are you threatening?” someone asks.
“You need to calm down!” someone else says.
“Put your goddamn gun down!” someone yells.
“You’re a coward, *******!” a woman yells.
“Nobody wants to hurt you,” another woman yells.
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AlDonal » 30 Jul 2020, 1:41 am » wrote: The TP part was embellished. But it flew over your head, like Charmin. 
Work on it.
Bitter leftists are NOTORIOUSLY humorless. When I saw the tongue in cheek nature of that fly past him - fly past him so thoroughly that he leapt on it as something to beat you up with, - I was at first surprised. But then I reminded myself, we are dealing with some hugely angry and bitter and humorless **** in the fascist, maoist left. So there he went, just running with it - so eager to chew on it that he granted the pet threat as a mitzvah.

And I am never one to look a mitzvah in the teeth - no fun in that.  
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Cannonpointer » 30 Jul 2020, 1:56 am » wrote: Sigh. What falsely premised pile of dookey did I miss?

Spit it out. I won't have a retard pretending she asked a question I could not field.

Again, tard - what **** question? Spit it out.

An I said **** yourself - and take it how you want. I do not care. I do not pretend dishonest folks are honest. I let any witness reach their own conclusion about that policy - those who think me to be dodging are perfectly welcome to their opinions.

Yes, dear - safety from what you said.

To a retarded partisan ape. To homeowners on a jury, they will mean a not guilty verdict.

Sorry - I lost interest.
So you have no proof.
No need to scream so much.
We all get it.
 

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Isabel » 30 Jul 2020, 2:14 am » wrote: So you have no proof.
No need to scream so much.
We all get it.

You forgot to tell me what this question was that I supposedly ducked - even though I axed twice in the post you just responded to. It must have been a **** question. Some falsely premised sleaze, most likely.
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Cannonpointer » 30 Jul 2020, 2:05 am » wrote: Bitter leftists are NOTORIOUSLY humorless. When I saw the tongue in cheek nature of that fly past him - fly past him so thoroughly that he leapt on it as something to beat you up with, - I was at first surprised. But then I reminded myself, we are dealing with some hugely angry and bitter and humorless **** in the fascist, maoist left. So there he went, just running with it - so eager to chew on it that he granted the pet threat as a mitzvah.

And I am never one to look a mitzvah in the teeth - no fun in that.
I’ll probably never be able to set a trap like that again. Sure was fun. Thanks for your participation. Your encouragement always means a lot.
 

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AlDonal » 30 Jul 2020, 2:20 am » wrote: I’ll probably never be able to set a trap like that again. Sure was fun. Thanks for your participation. Your encouragement always means a lot.

Hey, you **** that cat - I just held it's tail and barked at it!    
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Cannonpointer » 30 Jul 2020, 2:16 am » wrote: You forgot to tell me what this question was that I supposedly ducked - even though I axed twice in the post you just responded to. It must have been a **** question. Some falsely premised sleaze, most likely.
LOL.
"Oh, fiddle-de-dee, I just have NO AH-DEE-UH WHUT you are TALKIN ABOUT!"
LOLOL.
 

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Isabel » 30 Jul 2020, 2:26 am » wrote: LOL.
"Oh, fiddle-de-dee, I just have NO AH-DEE-UH WHUT you are TALKIN ABOUT!"
LOLOL.
If it was your request for a link to back my narrative, I answered that, ya moron. I told you unequivocably to go duck yourself - you do not merit a google as you are a dishonest poster who will do nothing but quibble against the evidence you requested.

I could have satan himself tell you, and even though you worship him, you would cling to the lie knowing that would earn his favor.
 
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Cannonpointer » 30 Jul 2020, 2:28 am » wrote: If it was your request for a link to back my narrative,
I told you to support the claims you were making.
You haven't.
All you have done is flail around and spin in circles screaming nonsense like a madman.

YOU:  I answered that, ya moron. I told you unequivocably to go duck yourself - you do not merit a google as you are a dishonest poster who will do nothing but uibble aganst the evidence you requested.I could have satan himself tell you, and even though you worship him, you would cling to the lie knowing that would earn his favor.

Like that.

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Isabel » 30 Jul 2020, 1:52 am » wrote: So you've got no evidence, and you're lying that you do.

YOU:   You have displayed willful misunderstanding of what is said, up to and including incompetence to process a simile regarding being insecure in one's own home.

So you've got no evidence, and you're lying that you do.

YOU:    No one is gonna bother googling for someone who is dishonestly clowning herself out.

So you've got no evidence, and you're lying that you do.
always demanding others disprove your hypothetical built on assumptions used ancestrally socially to current events. Becareful what you demand as when it arrives your reality is valueless outside what people are willing to do to ignore what has been ignored for 6,000 years.
when your reality won't explain real completely, you joined a socially corrupt intellectual mind that won't tolerate you using your own brain.

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DennisTheMenace » 30 Jul 2020, 5:01 am » wrote: Brandishing a weapon...fake, incapacitated, or real, will land your *** in jail.
From ones own private property? Nope.
 
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Isabel » 30 Jul 2020, 1:00 am » wrote: Because there's video, you shrieking clown.
Because there is no evidence of "property damage".
Because the cops found no such threat.
Because their own NEIGHBORS called them out for threatening the protestors for no good reason.
Don't let the facts **** you in the *** TOO hard - you have to shriek your knee-jerk crap like the brainless stooge you are.

1.  They broke the gate.

2.  The entire street is private property.  MO has castle laws.  

3.  It is REPORTED by one source that that at least one protester was armed with a gun.

4.  It is a fact that the weapon the woman was holding was purposely inop.

5.  It is not relevant anyway.  Considering the fact they acted within the state law the Governor is going to pardon them is these nitwits successfully prosecute them.  
Yet sources in the St. Louis Police Department have told Just the News that video evidence from the altercation indicates that at least one member of the crowd of protesters was armed with a gun during the confrontation. That allegation, if true, could be a key assertion in the McCloskeys' defense. The pair's lawyer has cited the state's "castle doctrine" law, which stipulates that an individual may use deadly force without the need to retreat if he or she "reasonably believes that such deadly force is necessary" to protect his or her own life. 

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Two separate sources with knowledge of the investigation told Just the News that video evidence, supplied by alleged eyewitnesses to the scene, showed at least one individual in the crowd of protesters holding a firearm. Ballistic vests were also allegedly being worn by at least several protesters, per the video footage. Both of those conclusions bolster earlier claims by the McCloskeys, the department sources said.

https://justthenews.com/government/cour ... aims-armed

Your right to protest does not extend to trespassing on Private Property.  Please, bring your mob to my neck of woods.  The same thing will happen. 
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