Why America Failed Against Covid Under trump

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Ricky Tavy

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So, why has America done so much worse than the rest of the world in dealing with covid? The easy answer is our president is an intellectually lazy moron with a sociopath's sense of empathy, and he is backed by a party thoroughly frightened by trump's control over his cult. There is more to it than that, though.

Deplorables are a big believers in a weak central government. That belief makes them feel like they are manly man Hondos, even though none of them would last five minutes with the protection and assistance of government. Also, they like states' rights, because it allows them to enforce their bigotry and their Taliban theology in some areas, even though most Americans find their unAmerican policies disgusting.

These people are also poorly educated, so they are ignorant of how the Articles of Confederation were a complete failure and how that led to the creation of the US Constitution Deplorables profess to love but of which they know little. Because of this, and trump's general incompetence, America had no national plan to deal with the crisis.  Well, we had one, but it was Obama's, so petty ******* tump threw it away.  trump and the Regressives punted on doing any leadership, simpering weakly that everybody everywhere should do pretty much whatever they liked, while encouraging them not to do anything that might hurt the economy in an election year, the only thing trump was clinging to for salvation. Yeah, this is the same trump who insists he has the power to do pretty much anything he wants, who sent unidentified storm troopers into localities where they were not wanted, who just declared HE is going to outlaw tik tok, and who used federal power to force landowners in Tejas to let him build his ******* wall on their property. But, he snivels there is nothing he can do to implement a national policy to deal with a pandemic that has killed more than 150,000 Americans. Squealing crybabies in his cult insist that having to wear a mask while shopping in Walmart is tyranny. Finally, trump and those in his cult see Science as part of the Deep State that lay dormant in DC for decades, waiting in case a flabby, lazy-***, cretinous, ham-fisted conman became president and they had to hamstring the will of his cult.

The fear and ignorance of this cult of victim-wannabes and the moron who leads their idiocracy means we are gonna continue to lag behind most of the world. Tens of thousands of more Americans, at least, are going to be sacrificed so trump can feed his justifiably flat ego by giving his suckers a scapegoat in every pot, by validating their victimhood, and by trolling all those snotty liberals with educations who look down on his ignorant mob.
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Ricky's putting the boot in.....again.
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RickyTavy » 31 Jul 2020, 10:21 pm » wrote: So, why has America done so much worse than the rest of the world in dealing with covid? The easy answer is our president is an intellectually lazy moron with a sociopath's sense of empathy, and he is backed by a party thoroughly frightened by trump's control over his cult. There is more to it than that, though.

Deplorables are a big believers in a weak central government. That belief makes them feel like they are manly man Hondos, even though none of them would last five minutes with the protection and assistance of government. Also, they like states' rights, because it allows them to enforce their bigotry and their Taliban theology in some areas, even though most Americans find their unAmerican policies disgusting.

These people are also poorly educated, so they are ignorant of how the Articles of Confederation were a complete failure and how that led to the creation of the US Constitution Deplorables profess to love but of which they know little. Because of this, and trump's general incompetence, America had no national plan to deal with the crisis.  Well, we had one, but it was Obama's, so petty ******* tump threw it away.  trump and the Regressives punted on doing any leadership, simpering weakly that everybody everywhere should do pretty much whatever they liked, while encouraging them not to do anything that might hurt the economy in an election year, the only thing trump was clinging to for salvation. Yeah, this is the same trump who insists he has the power to do pretty much anything he wants, who sent unidentified storm troopers into localities where they were not wanted, who just declared HE is going to outlaw tik tok, and who used federal power to force landowners in Tejas to let him build his ******* wall on their property. But, he snivels there is nothing he can do to implement a national policy to deal with a pandemic that has killed more than 150,000 Americans. Squealing crybabies in his cult insist that having to wear a mask while shopping in Walmart is tyranny. Finally, trump and those in his cult see Science as part of the Deep State that lay dormant in DC for decades, waiting in case a flabby, lazy-***, cretinous, ham-fisted conman became president and they had to hamstring the will of his cult.

The fear and ignorance of this cult of victim-wannabes and the moron who leads their idiocracy means we are gonna continue to lag behind most of the world. Tens of thousands of more Americans, at least, are going to be sacrificed so trump can feed his justifiably flat ego by giving his suckers a scapegoat in every pot, by validating their victimhood, and by trolling all those snotty liberals with educations who look down on his ignorant mob.
Interesting read. What were the guidelines not followed by the Trump administration as outlined in Obama’s playbook?

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neueregel » 01 Aug 2020, 8:02 am » wrote: Interesting read. What were the guidelines not followed by the Trump administration as outlined in Obama’s playbook?
uh oh, neueregel is ripping the boot right off.
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Trump is a *******.  He publicy  "thinks" it's a hoax.

He know's it's not a "hoax" but it's politically advantageous to say it's a "hoax" to his toothless followers.

He has casterated the CDC.  The White House now tells the public about such things after his minions  have "scrubbed" the numbers.

He's trying to get reelected with a pandemic raging. 

He's more dangerous to American citizens than Duterte is to Philippine citizens. 

They are both cut from the same cloth 


 
 

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DennisTheMenace » 01 Aug 2020, 8:16 am » wrote: Trump is a *******.  He publicy  "thinks" it's a hoax.

He know's it's not a "hoax" but it's politically advantageous to say it's a "hoax" to his toothless followers.

He has casterated the CDC.  The White House now tells the public about such things after his minions  have "scrubbed" the numbers.

He's trying to get reelected with a pandemic raging. 

He's more dangerous to American citizens than Duterte is to Philippine citizens. 

They are both cut from the same cloth 

The only hoax is what democrats are claiming

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DennisTheMenace » 01 Aug 2020, 8:16 am » wrote: Trump is a *******.  He publicy  "thinks" it's a hoax.

He know's it's not a "hoax" but it's politically advantageous to say it's a "hoax" to his toothless followers.

He has casterated the CDC.  The White House now tells the public about such things after his minions  have "scrubbed" the numbers.

He's trying to get reelected with a pandemic raging. 

He's more dangerous to American citizens than Duterte is to Philippine citizens. 

They are both cut from the same cloth 
It’s certainly not a hoax but I believe HOW the pandemic is covered will change after the election. It will much less politicized and likely less reported. 

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RickyTavy » 31 Jul 2020, 10:21 pm » wrote: So, why has America done so much worse than the rest of the world in dealing with covid? The easy answer is our president is an intellectually lazy moron with a sociopath's sense of empathy, and he is backed by a party thoroughly frightened by trump's control over his cult. There is more to it than that, though.

Deplorables are a big believers in a weak central government. That belief makes them feel like they are manly man Hondos, even though none of them would last five minutes with the protection and assistance of government. Also, they like states' rights, because it allows them to enforce their bigotry and their Taliban theology in some areas, even though most Americans find their unAmerican policies disgusting.

These people are also poorly educated, so they are ignorant of how the Articles of Confederation were a complete failure and how that led to the creation of the US Constitution Deplorables profess to love but of which they know little. Because of this, and trump's general incompetence, America had no national plan to deal with the crisis.  Well, we had one, but it was Obama's, so petty ******* tump threw it away.  trump and the Regressives punted on doing any leadership, simpering weakly that everybody everywhere should do pretty much whatever they liked, while encouraging them not to do anything that might hurt the economy in an election year, the only thing trump was clinging to for salvation. Yeah, this is the same trump who insists he has the power to do pretty much anything he wants, who sent unidentified storm troopers into localities where they were not wanted, who just declared HE is going to outlaw tik tok, and who used federal power to force landowners in Tejas to let him build his ******* wall on their property. But, he snivels there is nothing he can do to implement a national policy to deal with a pandemic that has killed more than 150,000 Americans. Squealing crybabies in his cult insist that having to wear a mask while shopping in Walmart is tyranny. Finally, trump and those in his cult see Science as part of the Deep State that lay dormant in DC for decades, waiting in case a flabby, lazy-***, cretinous, ham-fisted conman became president and they had to hamstring the will of his cult.

The fear and ignorance of this cult of victim-wannabes and the moron who leads their idiocracy means we are gonna continue to lag behind most of the world. Tens of thousands of more Americans, at least, are going to be sacrificed so trump can feed his justifiably flat ego by giving his suckers a scapegoat in every pot, by validating their victimhood, and by trolling all those snotty liberals with educations who look down on his ignorant mob.
A typical half-true assessment. What a surprise given your nose is up the DNC's *** most of the time.

Yes, Trump is partly to blame for his weak hand. He, in theory, could have emulated South Korea and their lead. I will agree with you there.

That being said, because he didn't, the bulk of the national response was left up to the states. States dictated their own Covid policies with guidance from the CDC. The undeniable evidence is that governors used executive order to impose lockdowns and other regulations, such as which businesses were deemed "essential" (Amazon, Walmart, and other oligopolies thank you BTW).


The hardest hit were NY and NJ, and a large % of casualties were from nursing homes. So to imply Trump is responsible while governors had no culpability is idiocy at its finest. (Before you bring up California, there are many theories to explain its low death rate, including the theory that the virus was circulating there long before Covid was officially acknowledged as a pandemic by the WHO, which means some Californians were already immune)


"150,000 dead"

The people who believe this number are as dumb as those who take the CCP's numbers without a grain of salt. Whereas the CCP deliberately undercounted deaths because it would improve their international image, there is no doubt the US is inflating its numbers to frighten the poor sheep into submitting to whatever measures are deemed necessary to "control the outbreak."

Here are just a few examples of blatant falsification -

https://off-guardian.org/2020/06/30/us- ... id-deaths/

I could, in theory, do a more thorough scan and sweep to uncover more cases of blatant lying and deception - the most obvious source of falsification is when someone dies and tests positive for C-19, but C-19 had nothing to do with the death.

I am sure even you can figure out that someone dying FROM C-19 is not equivalent to someone dying WITH C-19.

But chances are you are the type who takes the BLS numbers on inflation and unemployment rate at face value, so I'd rather not squander time. You can just slither back to your nest while mocking (admittedly gullible/unintelligent) Deplorables.
 

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RickyTavy » 31 Jul 2020, 10:21 pm » wrote: So, why has America done so much worse than the rest of the world in dealing with covid? The easy answer is our president is an intellectually lazy moron with a sociopath's sense of empathy, and he is backed by a party thoroughly frightened by trump's control over his cult. There is more to it than that, though.

Deplorables are a big believers in a weak central government. That belief makes them feel like they are manly man Hondos, even though none of them would last five minutes with the protection and assistance of government. Also, they like states' rights, because it allows them to enforce their bigotry and their Taliban theology in some areas, even though most Americans find their unAmerican policies disgusting.

These people are also poorly educated, so they are ignorant of how the Articles of Confederation were a complete failure and how that led to the creation of the US Constitution Deplorables profess to love but of which they know little. Because of this, and trump's general incompetence, America had no national plan to deal with the crisis.  Well, we had one, but it was Obama's, so petty ******* tump threw it away.  trump and the Regressives punted on doing any leadership, simpering weakly that everybody everywhere should do pretty much whatever they liked, while encouraging them not to do anything that might hurt the economy in an election year, the only thing trump was clinging to for salvation. Yeah, this is the same trump who insists he has the power to do pretty much anything he wants, who sent unidentified storm troopers into localities where they were not wanted, who just declared HE is going to outlaw tik tok, and who used federal power to force landowners in Tejas to let him build his ******* wall on their property. But, he snivels there is nothing he can do to implement a national policy to deal with a pandemic that has killed more than 150,000 Americans. Squealing crybabies in his cult insist that having to wear a mask while shopping in Walmart is tyranny. Finally, trump and those in his cult see Science as part of the Deep State that lay dormant in DC for decades, waiting in case a flabby, lazy-***, cretinous, ham-fisted conman became president and they had to hamstring the will of his cult.

The fear and ignorance of this cult of victim-wannabes and the moron who leads their idiocracy means we are gonna continue to lag behind most of the world. Tens of thousands of more Americans, at least, are going to be sacrificed so trump can feed his justifiably flat ego by giving his suckers a scapegoat in every pot, by validating their victimhood, and by trolling all those snotty liberals with educations who look down on his ignorant mob.
Your first statement isn't even true. The US is on par with Sweden, France, and Chile in terms of deaths/thousand (or deaths/100,000) and is not "worse than the rest of the world." And while the US response can hardly be considered "decent," there are many other countries reporting misleading data for at least one of two reasons -

1) They don't have the logistical capability to track down every Covid death, so their numbers are bogus (this reason is not "malicious")

2) They are undercounting deaths for the same reason China is ("malicious intent").

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Here is another article listing several theories on why East Asian countries, Australia, NZ, and Russia have lower death rates from C-19 (even taking the US out of the equation, and comparing them European countries that undoubtedly have higher-than-avg death rates)

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/20 ... ral-level/

Strongest correlative factors:

1) Stronger social and cultural norms ("lower" individualism)
2) Coronaviruses circulate more frequently in this region (Asia/Pacific) thus immunity rates are higher as T-bodies are capable of taking on more than 1 strain of coronavirus
3) East Asians are less susceptible to C-19 for genetic reasons ("Omg, racism! Race is only a social construct" ~ Your sociology 1/biology 1 browbeaten perfesseR)

Note that Trump has zero power over any of these factors. None.

It's pretty obvious to me (and anyone with a brain) you didn't care about the science at all when you tried to explain the US higher-than-avg death rate solely based on the Orange Swine. If the Orange Dotard deserves blame, it's because he was foolish enough to entrust states to carry out policies in good faith.

It always makes me laugh when you and your ilk mutter platitudes / cliches like, "Science isn't a liberal conspiracy," and when someone cites credible, scientific information to counter your talking points, you go back into hiding.
 

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RickyTavy » 31 Jul 2020, 10:21 pm » wrote: The fear and ignorance of this cult of victim-wannabes and the moron who leads their idiocracy means we are gonna continue to lag behind most of the world.
 

.....Pretty-much the reason Joe Biden will need Susan Rice, as VP....while HE'S dealing with domestic-issues....like one, more, Republican-recession.

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