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We can't read, write or do math but we have learned:

Orange Man Bad and America Sucks


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The reason TreasonMonkeys want PRIVATE schools is they want to BRAINWASH children. Having children taught HOW to think is BAD for the GOP/Nazi party because when people THINK they dont vote for conservatives

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solon » 17 Oct 2020, 4:19 pm » wrote: The reason TreasonMonkeys want PRIVATE schools is they want to BRAINWASH children. Having children taught HOW to think is BAD for the GOP/Nazi party because when people THINK they dont vote for conservatives
*******, since carter created the Dept of education we have been pumping billions of dollars into education AND we have been going BACKWARDS.  

STFU punk to use your parlance.
 
no, you haven't proven that by assertion. Unless you can show your mention prior to my post of Feb 8, you lose..

Hey BV, did Jan 24th 2020 come before or after Feb 8th 2020?

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GFY Hooooey we have been going backwards because GUTLESS COWARDS like you have been STARVING education cutting it year after year. The dep of Ed has nothing to do with it that is just the EXCUSE the right has brainwashed you with. You are one of those too STUPID to think I was talking about so all you do is repeat the LIES you were brainwashed with

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Huey » 17 Oct 2020, 4:24 pm » wrote: ...since carter created the Dept of education we have been pumping billions of dollars into education AND we have been going BACKWARDS.  


 
And just what would you like to do about that?

 

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nefarious101 » 17 Oct 2020, 11:01 am » wrote: We can't read, write or do math but we have learned:

Orange Man Bad and America Sucks


 
Grade 8, May 2012?

And if 3rd from the right, first row, and 2nd and 5th from the left, second row, aren't up to grade level, send them my way...
 
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Pengwin » 17 Oct 2020, 4:32 pm » wrote: And just what would you like to do about that?
Allow states and localities to determine their educational needs as they did PRIOR to the Dept of education.  The country as a whole was ranked higher than we are now.  
no, you haven't proven that by assertion. Unless you can show your mention prior to my post of Feb 8, you lose..

Hey BV, did Jan 24th 2020 come before or after Feb 8th 2020?

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nefarious101 » 17 Oct 2020, 11:01 am » wrote: We can't read, write or do math but we have learned:

Orange Man Bad and America Sucks

 
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The worst damage is to minorities, few of whom graduate from high school able to do basic math and to read or write at very basic levels. They are functionally illiterate.

How can you succeed in today's society without that?

Racist liberals don't care, as long as they feel good about themselves and the Money Spigot stays open.

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Pengwin » 17 Oct 2020, 4:32 pm » wrote: And just what would you like to do about that?

How is any effective monopoly broken? Competition.

Give people their money back in the form of vouchers.

Or at the very least greatly expand charter schools.

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Huey » 17 Oct 2020, 4:38 pm » wrote: Allow states and localities to determine their educational needs as they did PRIOR to the Dept of education.  The country as a whole was ranked higher than we are now.  

 
You realize and D. of Ed. was split off from HHS, correct?  It wasn't a new idea.

And one national standard makes sense, for one nation.

What else have you got for reforms?  I have many.
 

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Pengwin » 17 Oct 2020, 4:42 pm » wrote: You realize and D. of Ed. was split off from HHS, correct?  It wasn't a new idea.

And one national standard makes sense, for one nation.

What else have you got for reforms?  I have many.
The national standard has moved us backwards.  Be honest.  Did we rank higher or lower prior to 1981?  If you say lower you are not being honest. 
no, you haven't proven that by assertion. Unless you can show your mention prior to my post of Feb 8, you lose..

Hey BV, did Jan 24th 2020 come before or after Feb 8th 2020?

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Termin8tor » 17 Oct 2020, 4:40 pm » wrote: How is any effective monopoly broken? Competition.

Give people their money back in the form of vouchers.

Or at the very least greatly expand charter schools.
Some things prosper under competition others do NOT there are things that the profit motive should not be allowed anywhere NEAR and educating our chilidren along with HEALTHCARE are two of them. When the profit motive gets in then MAKING that profit becomes more important than the OBJECT like educating our children.  PRIVATE education would lead to the RICH getting the best education available the middle class getting an education JUST GOOD ENOUGH to take your place as a worker bee and the poor being  barely learning to read

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Termin8tor » 17 Oct 2020, 4:39 pm » wrote: .
The worst damage is to minorities, few of whom graduate from high school able to do basic math and to read or write at very basic levels. They are functionally illiterate.

How can you succeed in today's society without that?

Racist liberals don't care, as long as they feel good about themselves and the Money Spigot stays open.
I'm a racist liberal, and I care very much but the skill they desperately need is the ability to teach themselves, something you lack entirely.

And you seem to be getting by...
 

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Huey » 17 Oct 2020, 4:43 pm » wrote: The national standard has moved us backwards.  Be honest.  Did we rank higher or lower prior to 1981?  If you say lower you are not being honest.
Ranking in what?

This requires that you be - specific.

And testing-mania hadn't overtaken the country at that point.  That's one of the obvious needed reforms.  Test to know where a kid needs help, that's it.
 
 
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Termin8tor » 17 Oct 2020, 4:40 pm » wrote: How is any effective monopoly broken? Competition.

Give people their money back in the form of vouchers.

Or at the very least greatly expand charter schools.
Charter schools are no better, often worse, than public schools.

And a public school is much more important to a democratic and diverse society than just the education it can provide.   A public school is where you learn to be a Citizen, a shared and deeply important bonding experience.
 

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Pengwin » 17 Oct 2020, 4:46 pm » wrote: Ranking it what?

This requires that you be - specific.

And testing-mania hadn't overtaken the country at that point.  That's one of the obvious needed reforms.  Test to know where a kid needs help, that's it.
You are not being honest.  Let the states and localities determine their educational needs.  Not an all powerful central government.  
 
no, you haven't proven that by assertion. Unless you can show your mention prior to my post of Feb 8, you lose..

Hey BV, did Jan 24th 2020 come before or after Feb 8th 2020?

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Huey » 17 Oct 2020, 4:50 pm » wrote: You are not being honest. 
 
Yes, I am.  We are one nation.

There is nothing wrong with national standards.  We have them for nearly everything else.


 

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Pengwin » 17 Oct 2020, 4:49 pm » wrote:
Charter schools are no better, often worse, than public schools.
You don't have the slightest clue about that, and that's not your decision anyway.

It should be up to the parents.

There are huge waiting lists everywhere charter schools are available, especially from minorities.

Vouchers are wildly popular with minorities in Florida and Milwaukee, among other places.

Who are you to tell them they're wrong?
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And a public school is much more important to a democratic and diverse society than just the education it can provide.   A public school is where you learn to be a Citizen, a shared and deeply important bonding experience.
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That's just freaking stupid.

They have become propaganda mills for the liberal-left and are destroying our society.

I was stunned at some of the factually incorrect garbage my children were taught.

And it's only gotten far worse.
 
 

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Pengwin » 17 Oct 2020, 4:53 pm » wrote:

 
Yes, I am.  We are one nation.

There is nothing wrong with national standards.  We have them for nearly everything else.
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That's one of the biggest problems in the country; sending decision making the farthest away from where people have influence

And federal one size fits all that prevents Americans from seeing success and failure.

Red States have been gaining population from Blue States because people can see where things work, so they move.

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Termin8tor » 17 Oct 2020, 4:53 pm » wrote: You don't have the slightest clue about that, and that's not your decision anyway.

It should be up to the parents.


 
1. No.

2. No.

Public education, like public health, is an issue for all of society.  You need all citizens educated to a certain level to maintain a nation.  Is not up for a vote of some local nutters who think Jesus will shortly return so their kids don't need their shots or to go to school.

 

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