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Huey » 13 Jan 2021, 3:36 pm » wrote: That dog don't hunt.
More like Trump's folks at the Capitol couldn't hear what he was saying won't hunt.

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Huey » 13 Jan 2021, 3:25 pm » wrote: ANd yet those who attacked it were at the capitol for hours, did not hear the speech, and trump was still speaking when the attack began.  You need to discuss with the NYTs.
You need to discuss with Parler. The geotag data shows that individuals at the Trump insurrection speeches were later inside the Capitol. 

You’re right about one thing. The insurrectionists didn’t show up to a peaceful rally and mistakenly wander into the US Capitol. This was planned. It’s important to figure out how high it goes. We all know it goes as high as the disgraced soon-to-be-ex president. 

 
 

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Huey » 13 Jan 2021, 3:24 pm » wrote:
Misty » 13 Jan 2021, 3:16 pm » wrote: ​​​​​Trump has been inciting violence among his fans for years and you want to fixate on one sentence from one speech on one day.

I haven't forgotten how in 2016 he told his fans that if they beat up protesters he would pay their legal fees and how be praised a member of Congress who body slammed a reporter.
He said, "Any guy that can do a body slam — he's my guy."
Thus encouraging his fans to attack members of the press whom he designated as enemies of the American people.
(Members of the press were attacked and beaten on January 6th BTW.)
And those are just two examples off the top of my head.
There are many more.

All through 2020 he told his fans that the only way he could lose the election is if it was stolen from him.
He convinced them that if Biden won, the country would turn into a Socialist hellhole overrun with marauding gangs of brown people destroying their neighborhoods.

Then since election day he told them that the Democrats committed massive voter fraud and stole the election from him.

He's been pouring gasoline for years and on January 6th the match was thrown.

One sentence from one speech on one day cannot negate the years of hateful, divisive and violent rhetoric that he has spewed for years.
I am going to focus on that because the Articles of Impeachment are based on that speech with one mention of the phone call to the GA SOS.  As well as the fact that most of the democrat critters in the house are focusing on it as we speak.  

As far as your comment from 2016 this is what he said.  He did not say beat up protesers:

"So if you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of 'em, would you? Seriously. Okay? Just knock the hell — I promise you, I will pay for the legal fees. I promise. I promise.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the ... ed-can-he/

That is not beating up a protestor.  That is beating up someone who is attacking a presidential candidate.
Trump (2016) on rally protester: "I'd like to punch him in the face."
He also lamented that he missed the 'good old days' when protesters could be carried out on a stretcher.

Don't pretend that the subject of Trump inciting violence with his rhetoric is something that only came up on January 6th.
There is long record of it.
Many people have been warning about it for years, myself included.

Several of his fans have already been caught either plotting acts of violence or carrying out acts of violence.

Ask the governor of Michigan.

You can deny it all you want but he set this crap in motion a long time ago.

Recommended reading: 

The ‘thugs’ that stormed the Capitol just joined a long list of others.

HERE IS A LIST OF FAR-RIGHT ATTACKERS TRUMP INSPIRED. CESAR SAYOC WASN’T THE FIRST — AND WON’T BE THE LAST.

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Cannonpointer » 13 Jan 2021, 1:51 pm » wrote: Who incited the mobs in Kenosha, tardo flicto?

Who incited the "secession" in Settle, Chazz?

Who started the fires in Portland, Petunia?

Was all of THAT trump, too?
Deflection. Stay current. No one cares.

SHUT UP!
 

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Pengwin » 13 Jan 2021, 3:37 pm » wrote: I'm betting the Congress will be very interested to speak with them then.

The Capitol Police couldn't get the job done...
Yeah.  They'll wait seven months to prosecute almost 600 rioters, most of whom were released and not charged with a crime the same night.
 

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Coolguy10013 » 13 Jan 2021, 1:47 pm » wrote: Maxine Water said one thing one time. Trump has been spewing his nonsense for months. Your point is not taken.

Rioting for months vs protesting for a day.

Which do you ignore?

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Deezer Shoove » 13 Jan 2021, 10:30 pm » wrote: Rioting for months vs protesting for a day.

Which do you ignore?
since I first seen what took place I suspected same people doing the 6 months disguised themselves as trump supporters to do it again so Trump supporters are blamed and setup what has taken up with impeahment again.

those 7 points to 6 degrees of separation. Means, methods, motives, equal opportunity, mayhem, madness, misery and another what, where,when, who, how, why benefits most with it looking like Trump people did it?

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Pengwin » 13 Jan 2021, 1:47 pm » wrote: And a mental toddler has spoken...

Yes, you have.

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I will give you a pass this but to troll me you actually have to work at it.

If this is all you can do then I won't bother even this much next time.  Now you know...
 

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Pengwin » 14 Jan 2021, 1:00 am » wrote: I will give you a pass this but to troll me you actually have to work at it.

If this is all you can do then I won't bother even this much next time.  Now you know...

When have I ever trolled?

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Dr.Sliptinschit » 14 Jan 2021, 1:09 am » wrote: When have I ever trolled?

Your previous post to me.
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Pengwin » 14 Jan 2021, 1:12 am » wrote: Your previous post to me.

I was just agreeing with you.

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Dr.Sliptinschit » 14 Jan 2021, 1:16 am » wrote: I was just agreeing with you.

As I said, I will give you a pass.

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Pengwin » 14 Jan 2021, 1:17 am » wrote: As I said, I will give you a pass.

A hall pass?

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A one-time pass, but school could be in session if you pick a subject to debate?
 

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solon » 13 Jan 2021, 1:24 pm » wrote: Where is the violence in that? I dont see the word FIGHT anywhere. She is calling for publich shaming and shunning.      I think she was wrong to do so.  To make a legitimately unpopular policy into a public personal attack is not how we should do things but she NEVER called for them to be hurt or for anyone to FIGHT with them

She is calling for publich [sic] shaming and shunning of what?

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solon » 13 Jan 2021, 1:24 pm » wrote: she NEVER called for them to be hurt or for anyone to FIGHT with them
Neither did Trump

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Pengwin » 13 Jan 2021, 1:25 pm » wrote: Knock yourself out.

Maybe the Dems can attack the Capitol next week, if they have time...

The Capital Hill attackers were Dems, they were just pretending to be Cons.

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Pengwin » 13 Jan 2021, 1:30 pm » wrote: Q: Do you think Trump knew that some of them were armed?

Q: Did Trump hope that they would somehow stop Congress from certifying Biden as the winner?

Q: Did Trump suggest they march, as a mob, to the Capitol?

#1 How would Trump have known that ANTIFA was going to show up armed?

#2  Winners don't cheat and cheaters don't win.  Therefore it doesn't matter because Biden didn't win.

#3  Did Trump ever use the word mob?

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Coolguy10013 » 13 Jan 2021, 1:47 pm » wrote: Maxine Water said one thing one time. Trump has been spewing his nonsense for months. Your point is not taken.

What do you mean, Maxine Water said one thing one time?

The woman cant keep her gorilla lips shut when it comes to Trump.

 

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