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Senate holds hearing on security failures from Capitol insurrection

The Senate homeland security committee and the Senate rules committee is now holding the joint hearing on the security failures that caused the Capitol insurrection.

Several law enforcement leaders -- former Capitol Police chief Steven Sund, acting Metropolitan Police Department chief Robert Contee, former House sergeant at arms Paul Irving and former Senate sergeant at arms Michael Stenger -- will testify at the hearing.

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Steven Sund, the former chief of the US Capitol Police, said his officers were outnumbered by the insurrectionists, who deployed dangerous weapons against law enforcement on January 6.

“These criminals came prepared for war,” Sund said.

Sund announced his resignation from the USCP the day after the Capitol insurrection, amid widespread criticism of his handling of the attack.


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Bidennextpresident » 23 Feb 2021, 10:58 am » wrote: Steven Sund, the former chief of the US Capitol Police, said his officers were outnumbered by the insurrectionists, who deployed dangerous weapons against law enforcement on January 6.

“These criminals came prepared for war,” Sund said.

Sund announced his resignation from the USCP the day after the Capitol insurrection, amid widespread criticism of his handling of the attack.

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If you’re going to let a guy in a Viking hat overrun you, you damn well SHOULD resign. 
 

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Bidennextpresident » 23 Feb 2021, 10:57 am » wrote: Senate holds hearing on security failures from Capitol insurrection

The Senate homeland security committee and the Senate rules committee is now holding the joint hearing on the security failures that caused the Capitol insurrection.

Several law enforcement leaders -- former Capitol Police chief Steven Sund, acting Metropolitan Police Department chief Robert Contee, former House sergeant at arms Paul Irving and former Senate sergeant at arms Michael Stenger -- will testify at the hearing.
Former Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund said he requested that the National Guard be placed on standby in the days before the deadly riot at the U.S. Capitol, but House and Senate security officials turned him down.Sund, who resigned his post the day after the riot, told The Washington Post he had been concerned that the protest planned for Jan. 6 would be larger than expected. Sund said he asked House and Senate security officials for permission to request that the National Guard be placed on standby.Sund said House and Senate sergeants at arms told him they were not comfortable with the “optics” of declaring an emergency days before the protest and suggested Sund should informally ask Guard officials to be on alert. Both have since resigned.
 
What did Mitch and Nancy know and when did they know it?
 

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Bidennextpresident » 23 Feb 2021, 10:57 am » wrote: Senate holds hearing on security failures from Capitol insurrection

The Senate homeland security committee and the Senate rules committee is now holding the joint hearing on the security failures that caused the Capitol insurrection.

Several law enforcement leaders -- former Capitol Police chief Steven Sund, acting Metropolitan Police Department chief Robert Contee, former House sergeant at arms Paul Irving and former Senate sergeant at arms Michael Stenger -- will testify at the hearing.

Shouldn't they have had the investigations BEFORE the impeachment and senate trial?  

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Cedar » 23 Feb 2021, 11:27 am » wrote: Former Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund said he requested that the National Guard be placed on standby in the days before the deadly riot at the U.S. Capitol, but House and Senate security officials turned him down.Sund, who resigned his post the day after the riot, told The Washington Post he had been concerned that the protest planned for Jan. 6 would be larger than expected. Sund said he asked House and Senate security officials for permission to request that the National Guard be placed on standby.Sund said House and Senate sergeants at arms told him they were not comfortable with the “optics” of declaring an emergency days before the protest and suggested Sund should informally ask Guard officials to be on alert. Both have since resigned.
 
What did Mitch and Nancy know and when did they know it?
Circle the wagons. 

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Huey » 23 Feb 2021, 11:28 am » wrote: Shouldn't they have had the investigations BEFORE the impeachment and senate trial?

No.

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USCP chief was 'literally pleading' for National Guard help, MPD chief says

Robert Contee, the acting chief of the Metropolitan Police Department of Washington, recounted a call that occurred on January 6 with Steven Sund, then the US Capitol Police chief, and Pentagon officials.

Contee said Sund was “literally pleading” with defense department leaders to deploy National Guard troops to the Capitol.

The MPD chief recalled that the Pentagon officials did not formally decline the request, but there was “not an immediate yes”.

“I was just stunned,” Contee said. “I have officers who are out there literally fighting for their lives.”


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That's an odd answer.  Did you think they will also have the 35 cops under investigation testify as well as the ones already suspended? And maybe we can get to the bottom of this as well:

The former chief of U.S. Capitol Police says security officials at the House and Senate rebuffed his early requests to call in the National Guard ahead of a demonstration in support of President Trump that turned into a deadly attack on Congress.Former chief Steven Sund -- who resigned his post last week after House Speaker Nancy Pelosi called for him to step down -- made the assertions in an interview with The Washington Post published Sunday.

Sund contradicts claims made by officials after Wednesday's assault on Capitol Hill. Sund's superiors said previously that the National Guard and other additional security support could have been provided, but no one at the Capitol requested it.

Sund told the Post that House Sergeant-at-Arms Paul Irving was concerned with the "optics" of declaring an emergency ahead of the protests and rejected a National Guard presence. He says Senate Sergeant-at-Arms Michael Stenger recommended that he informally request the Guard to be ready in case it was needed to maintain security.

Like Sund, Irving and Stenger have also since resigned their posts.

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Huey » 23 Feb 2021, 11:40 am » wrote: That's an odd answer.
 
It is the correct answer.

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No, it is the answer of those who have a political agenda and don't care if it is right or wrong.  

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Huey » 23 Feb 2021, 11:45 am » wrote: No, it is the answer of those who have a political agenda and don't care if it is right or wrong.

Constitution give authority to impeach to the House of Representatives. The Senate holds the trial. Are you objecting to the US Constitution?

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Bidennextpresident » 23 Feb 2021, 11:47 am » wrote: Constitution give authority to impeach to the House of Representatives. The Senate holds the trial. Are you objecting to the US Constitution?

Nice spin.  There is generally some type of investigation BEFORE the trial and impeachment proceedings.  

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Huey » 23 Feb 2021, 11:28 am » wrote: Shouldn't they have had the investigations BEFORE the impeachment and senate trial?
Only if it was a legitimate inquiry. Otherwise, doesn’t matter...would have just been a further waste of time. 

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Huey » 23 Feb 2021, 11:49 am » wrote: Nice spin.  There is generally some type of investigation BEFORE the trial and impeachment proceedings.

Nothing was done improperly.

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Bidennextpresident » 23 Feb 2021, 11:50 am » wrote: Nothing was done improperly.

LMAO!

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Right, you cannot refute my statement.

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Bidennextpresident » 23 Feb 2021, 11:52 am » wrote: Right, you cannot refute my statement.

You are creating a strawman.  I never said any such thing.  My message was you woulda thunk they woulda done the investigation first.  Never said anything was unconstitutional.  

Carry on Junior.

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FBI warning of potential violence reached Capitol Police, but leaders say they didn’t see it

An FBI warning of potential violence reached the U.S. Capitol Police on the eve of the Jan. 6 attack, but top leaders testified during a Senate hearing Tuesday that they did not see it.

Steven A. Sund, who was chief of the U.S. Capitol Police during the pro-Trump mob assault, said the warning reached headquarters. But Sund and the then-House and Senate sergeants-at-arms testified that they did not see the report warning that extremists were preparing to travel to Washington to commit violence and wage “war.”


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Bidennextpresident » 23 Feb 2021, 11:50 am » wrote: Nothing was done improperly.
It was done stupidly. The house had no investigation, so they had no evidence to present at the trial. So they lost.
 
 

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