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09 Jun 2021, 11:19 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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Vegasgiants » 10 Jun 2021, 3:01 pm » wrote: Without signoficant clinical distress no diagnosis.

Then they are not real transgenders. We went over this. Call them drag queens or cross dressers or something...but they are not real transgenders.

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Vegas » 10 Jun 2021, 3:07 pm » wrote: Then they are not real transgenders. We went over this. Call them drag queens or cross dressers or something...but they are not real transgenders.
Yes they are.  There is no diagnosis anywhere that says you MUST have clinically significant distress to be transgender.

Does not exist
 

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Vegas » 09 Jun 2021, 11:19 pm » wrote: First, let's understand what the word 'phobia' means. It doesn't mean 'hate.' That's a lefty thing, they love to falsely accuse non lefties of being hateful and whatever. Phobia means 'fear,' or an extreme fear of something. It doesn't mean 'an extreme hatred of something.' It means an extreme fear of something.'
Thank you so much Dr. Freud. What the **** would we do without your expertise on psychopathology?
Vegas » 09 Jun 2021, 11:19 pm » wrote:  I don't hate transgenders. Why would I? However, they do freak me out. Perhaps. you could label me transphobic because I do try to evade them as much as possible for the sole reason that normalizing transgenderism freaks me out.
Sorry to hear about your condition. Take a **** Xanax, and leave the rest of us out of it.

But actually you don't really understand the clinical concept of a phobia.  Yes, a phobia is about anxiety which is about fear, but it's only a phobia if the object, person, or situation is experienced as a danger to the phobic person.  You find trans people to be dangerous to your life, health, or your personal lifestyle?  "Freaked out" doesn't sound like you're feeling in danger to me.  Get it right, Doctor.
 
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IkeBana » 10 Jun 2021, 3:12 pm » wrote: Thank you so much Dr. Freud. What the **** would we do without your psychopathology expertise?

Sorry to hear about your condition. Take a **** Xanax, and leave the rest of us out of it.

You are welcome. Anytime.

Thank you. I will take your advice, doc.

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There is no mental health disorder known as transgender
 

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Vegasgiants » 10 Jun 2021, 3:14 pm » wrote: There is no mental health disorder known as transgender

When you post about me, instead of quoting me, you are telling on yourself. You tend to do this when you are failing. I already said 100 times that transgender is under the umbrella of gender dsyphoria. I gave you the citations for it. I gave you the sources directly from the docs. I didn't write it. Take it up with them. 

Why do I get the feeling that you will post about me again?

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Vegas » 10 Jun 2021, 3:17 pm » wrote: When you post about me, instead of quoting me, you are telling on yourself. You tend to do this when you are failing. I already said 100 times that transgender is under the umbrella of gender dsyphoria. I gave you the citations for it. I gave you the sources directly from the docs. I didn't write it. Take it up with them. 

Why do I get the feeling that you will post about me again?
I never mentioned you.  


You can be transgender and not have clinically significant distress


There is nowhere is the DSM that says EVERYONE that is transgender is under clinically significant distress


In fact it says the diagnosis DOES NOT APPLY if you do not have clinically significant distress


This are facts
 

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In order to meet criteria for the diagnosis, the condition must also be associated with clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.

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Vegasgiants » 10 Jun 2021, 3:21 pm » wrote: I never mentioned you.  

You can be transgender and not have clinically significant distress

There is nowhere is the DSM that says EVERYONE that is transgender is under clinically significant distress

In fact it says the diagnosis DOES NOT APPLY if you do not have clinically significant distress

This are facts

You didn't have to mention me. You were referring to our conversation. 

Everything else you wrote, we already discussed about three times. My source and my logic debunked what you are saying over and over and over.  No more of the same stuff over and over. 

If you don't like what my sources are saying, then take up with them. 

Those are the facts. My facts support my OP. My OP stands strong. You are dismissed. 


 

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Vegas » 10 Jun 2021, 3:24 pm » wrote: You didn't have to mention me. You were referring to our conversation. 

Everything else you wrote, we already discussed about three times. My source and my logic debunked what you are saying over and over and over.  No more of the same stuff over and over. 

If you don't like what my sources are saying, then take up with them. 

Those are the facts. My facts support my OP. My OP stands strong. You are dismissed.
This criteria must be met for the diagnosis 


In order to meet criteria for the diagnosis, the condition must also be associated with clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.


You can be transgender and not meet that criteria 


Dismissed
 

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Vegasgiants » 10 Jun 2021, 3:23 pm » wrote: In order to meet criteria for the diagnosis, the condition must also be associated with clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.

Already addressed. Repeating the same thing over and over will not negate that this issue has been addressed and adequately responded to. 

 

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Vegasgiants » 10 Jun 2021, 3:25 pm » wrote: This criteria must be met for the diagnosis 

In order to meet criteria for the diagnosis, the condition must also be associated with clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.

You can be transgender and not meet that criteria 

Dismissed

My OP is consistent with my sources and criteria. You are not. 

You have been debunked. Saying the same thing over and over doesn't debunk my source or the criteria to which I presented.

My Op is strong and healthy. You arguments were debunked with ease. Dismissed. 

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Vegas » 10 Jun 2021, 3:27 pm » wrote: My OP is consistent with my sources and criteria. You are not. 

You have been debunked. Saying the same thing over and over doesn't debunk my source or the criteria to which I presented.

My Op is strong and healthy. You arguments were debunked with ease. Dismissed.
Your op is factually incorrect


In order to meet criteria for the diagnosis, the condition must also be associated with clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.

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Vegasgiants » 10 Jun 2021, 3:28 pm » wrote: Your op is factually incorrect

In order to meet criteria for the diagnosis, the condition must also be associated with clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.

My OP is factually correct. I proved it with a source and the criteria.

Stop repeating the same thing that was already debunked. Stop! That's enough VG. It has been debunked per my source and the criteria. I didn't make it up. 

Next redundant post goes into the PG. Either try another angle, or stop repeating the same debunked crap.

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IkeBana » 10 Jun 2021, 3:12 pm » wrote: Thank you so much Dr. Freud. What the **** would we do without your expertise on psychopathology?

Sorry to hear about your condition. Take a **** Xanax, and leave the rest of us out of it.

But actually you don't really understand the clinical concept of a phobia.  Yes, a phobia is about anxiety which is about fear, but it's only a phobia if the object, person, or situation is experienced as a danger to the phobic person.  You find trans people to be dangerous to your life, health, or your personal lifestyle?  "Freaked out" doesn't sound like you're feeling in danger to me.  Get it right, Doctor.
And F-you too Mr. Ike.. when I got inured.. head injury.. it triggered severe anxiety attacks.. that I cured with vitamin b-12.. and it got even weirder then that..  I could tip my head and trigger one on.. one day out of the hell of it.. I tipped my head my head … twelve times.. every time I did it.. it triggered a panic attack.. so maybe you just don't know everything … just maybe there is something there your training may not understand. it cracked me up.. in that experiment.. I realized. there is more to this bull ****..  never feared it again.. bozo.

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Vegasgiants » 10 Jun 2021, 3:42 pm » wrote: Facts will not be tolerated here even when WebMD is cited

Ban me I'm out

If you believe this, then why do you incessantly ignore my facts from my sources which were written by docs from the criteria itself? 

I already know. It doesn't align with your view, therefore you deliberately ignore them.

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Vegasgiants » 10 Jun 2021, 3:14 pm » wrote: There is no mental health disorder known as transgender
There used to be.  It was called gender identity disorder.
 

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IkeBana » 10 Jun 2021, 3:49 pm » wrote: There used to be.  It was called gender identity disorder.

Are you can pick and choose which facts are pertinent like he did? 

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IkeBana » 10 Jun 2021, 3:49 pm » wrote: There used to be.  It was called gender identity disorder.
Nope

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Vegas » 10 Jun 2021, 3:44 pm » wrote: If you believe this, then why do you incessantly ignore my facts from my sources which were written by docs from the criteria itself? 

I already know. It doesn't align with your view, therefore you deliberately ignore them.
I posted facts and you banned them .


That is also a fact
 

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