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IRS records reveal how ultra-wealthy avoid income taxes, new report shows
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Jealousy and envy make for **** public policy.

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Neo » 10 Jun 2021, 1:09 pm » wrote: Jealousy and envy make for **** public policy.
Not really 

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Neo » 10 Jun 2021, 1:09 pm » wrote: Jealousy and envy make for **** public policy.

 fair taxation would be great policy.  Instead of putting the entire tax burden on the backs of those who can afford it least.

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STUPIDITY makes **** policy like when BRAINWASHED MORONS call it envy to tax the people who have gotten the LIONS SHARE of the TAX CUTS over the last FORTY YEARS. GOD TreasonMonkeys are STUPID and BRAINWASHED just repeat what the screechmonkeys TELL them to think whether it makes sense of NOT

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SJConspirator » 10 Jun 2021, 3:25 pm » wrote:  fair taxation would be great policy.  Instead of putting the entire tax burden on the backs of those who can afford it least.
Fair taxation would see those making 20% of the income paying 20% of the income taxes instead of 40% of the burden. We already have a progressive taxation system that puts most of the burden on the affluent. I don't think there is much call for "fair" taxation. 
 

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IGNORANT BRAINWASHED MORON Neo talking about things he is TOO STUPID to understand

It takes X amount of income to live. Take THAT AWAY since the VAST MAJORITY of Americans BARELY make that much and then tax the DISPOSABLE income and those who make 20% of THAT pay 20% of the taxes. GOD brainwashed TreasonMonkey MORONS ARE STUPID

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solon » 10 Jun 2021, 4:15 pm » wrote: IGNORANT BRAINWASHED MORON Neo talking about things he is TOO STUPID to understand

It takes X amount of income to live. Take THAT AWAY since the VAST MAJORITY of Americans BARELY make that much and then tax the DISPOSABLE income and those who make 20% of THAT pay 20% of the taxes. GOD brainwashed TreasonMonkey MORONS ARE STUPID
Has nothing to do with equal/fair taxation. You don't want equal taxation, you want taxes to be further increased on the rich. Let's not pretend your argument is one of fairness, that is an obvious lie.
 

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Ne is a LIAR he got SLAPPED DOWN so he just goes back to what he USUALLY DOES TELL MORE LIES. I DEFINED why it would be the ONLY way to be a FAIR taxation LOSER LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LEI is all you do GFY

Neo is a LIAR and a TROLL every single day
 

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Neo » 10 Jun 2021, 4:10 pm » wrote: Fair taxation would see those making 20% of the income paying 20% of the income taxes instead of 40% of the burden. We already have a progressive taxation system that puts most of the burden on the affluent. I don't think there is much call for "fair" taxation.
couple things...

1.  Your link talks about people making $540 k per year and lumps them in with billionaires, that’s insane.  In a country of 350 million, the top 1% is about 3.5 million people.  Out of THAT group, the richest 50 own far more than the others COMBINED.  And THOSE are the ones who pay no taxes, that tiny fraction of the populace at the tippy top.

So yeh, millionaires are overtaxed.  Billionaires are not.  And even if they were, you are basing your whole argument here on income tax, which is merely a tax on liquid gains in one year.  It says nothing about how the top .00001% own the media, the airports, the oil refineries and factories, toll roads, they basically own all the DEBT in the country (huge usury/interest $profits), all the land, the banks and other assets - including stocks which are taxed as capitol gains, a different bracket than income.

2.  You are not a billionaire.  If you were, you would be counting your money all day instead of posting here.  So why do you advocate for billionaires constantly when their economic interests are in direct conflict with yours?  You are like a battered spouse who makes excuses for the guy who keeps beating her ***
 
 
 

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Benson13 » 10 Jun 2021, 7:45 am » wrote: IRS records reveal how ultra-wealthy avoid income taxes, new report shows
https://www.cnbc.com/video/2021/06/08/i ... shows.html
The government you want more of makes this possible, they wrote the tax code. But you’re upset at the rich for following the tax code?
 

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SJConspirator » 10 Jun 2021, 11:35 pm » wrote: couple things...

1.  Your link talks about people making $540 k per year and lumps them in with billionaires, that’s insane.  In a country of 350 million, the top 1% is about 3.5 million people.  Out of THAT group, the richest 50 own far more than the others COMBINED.  And THOSE are the ones who pay no taxes, that tiny fraction of the populace at the tippy top.

So yeh, millionaires are overtaxed.  Billionaires are not.  And even if they were, you are basing your whole argument here on income tax, which is merely a tax on liquid gains in one year.  It says nothing about how the top .00001% own the media, the airports, the oil refineries and factories, toll roads, they basically own all the DEBT in the country (huge usury/interest $profits), all the land, the banks and other assets - including stocks which are taxed as capitol gains, a different bracket than income.

2.  You are not a billionaire.  If you were, you would be counting your money all day instead of posting here.  So why do you advocate for billionaires constantly when their economic interests are in direct conflict with yours?  You are like a battered spouse who makes excuses for the guy who keeps beating her ***
I hired someone to count my money for me. :cool:  
 

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Cedar » 11 Jun 2021, 12:08 am » wrote: The government you want more of makes this possible, they wrote the tax code. But you’re upset at the rich for following the tax code?

you're mistaken....I NEVER vote republiKlan

I want the Filibuster gone, along with the Elec College, 

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Benson13 » 11 Jun 2021, 6:01 am » wrote: you're mistaken....I NEVER vote republiKlan

I want the Filibuster gone, along with the Elec College,
That’s because you’re retarded.
 

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always amazes me at how Subsidized red states and their voters align themselves with the Plantation Owners

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Benson13 » 11 Jun 2021, 6:06 am » wrote: always amazes me at how Subsidized red states and their voters align themselves with the Plantation Owners

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I rest my case. :rofl:
 

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you never had a case


"Right now, the Senate is split evenly in half, but the 50 Democratic senators represent 41.5 million more people than the 50 Republican senators," reported Mara Liasson. "By 2040, if population trends continue, 70% of Americans will be represented by just 30 senators, and 30% of Americans by 70 senators. That has lots of implications, like for the Senate filibuster, where a party that represents a shrinking minority of voters can block almost all major legislation."

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SJConspirator » 10 Jun 2021, 11:35 pm » wrote: couple things...

1.  Your link talks about people making $540 k per year and lumps them in with billionaires, that’s insane.  In a country of 350 million, the top 1% is about 3.5 million people.  Out of THAT group, the richest 50 own far more than the others COMBINED.  And THOSE are the ones who pay no taxes, that tiny fraction of the populace at the tippy top.

So yeh, millionaires are overtaxed.  Billionaires are not.  And even if they were, you are basing your whole argument here on income tax, which is merely a tax on liquid gains in one year.  It says nothing about how the top .00001% own the media, the airports, the oil refineries and factories, toll roads, they basically own all the DEBT in the country (huge usury/interest $profits), all the land, the banks and other assets - including stocks which are taxed as capitol gains, a different bracket than income.

2.  You are not a billionaire.  If you were, you would be counting your money all day instead of posting here.  So why do you advocate for billionaires constantly when their economic interests are in direct conflict with yours?  You are like a battered spouse who makes excuses for the guy who keeps beating her ***
You are stating facts that are not in evidence. The fact is the top 1% of income tax payers pay 40% of the tax burden. It's not really known what percentage the top 1% of the 1% pay, not really finding a clear answer to that. They generally pay capital gains taxes, bribe politicians, and have tens of millions in write offs for losses. Guessing they don't pay much in traditional income tax.. We could take every penny from our billionaires and we would still have a government spending problem. 
 
 

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