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Medicare Single Payer eliminates: 
=== over 1300 CEO salaries 

=== 1300 golden parachutes

 === the cost of 10,400 lobbyists 

=== 1300 sources of special interest campaign money 

=== 1300 different sources of administrative staffing 

=== thousands upon thousands of commissions and bonus packages 

=== advertising budgets 

=== martini lunches 

Thus reducing the cost of health care ..............
 

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razoo » 16 Jul 2021, 2:24 pm » wrote: Medicare Single Payer eliminates: 
=== over 1300 CEO salaries 

=== 1300 golden parachutes

 === the cost of 10,400 lobbyists 

=== 1300 sources of special interest campaign money 

=== 1300 different sources of administrative staffing 

=== thousands upon thousands of commissions and bonus packages 

=== advertising budgets 

=== martini lunches 

Thus reducing the cost of health care ..............

Socialism SUCKS............just ask Cuba today.                                                  :clap:  .

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it's not free health insurance we pay for it with our tax dollars which brings our tax dollars back to our communities = smart use of our money.

we the taxpayers have guaranteed health care for our tax dollar investment = a best bang for our tax dollar.

how many can afford cancer?

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Taipan » 16 Jul 2021, 2:33 pm » wrote: Socialism SUCKS............just ask Cuba today.                                                  Image  .
That isn't "socialism," that is DICtatorship.

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Taipan » 16 Jul 2021, 2:33 pm » wrote:
razoo » 16 Jul 2021, 2:24 pm » wrote: Medicare Single Payer eliminates: 
=== over 1300 CEO salaries 

=== 1300 golden parachutes

 === the cost of 10,400 lobbyists 

=== 1300 sources of special interest campaign money 

=== 1300 different sources of administrative staffing 

=== thousands upon thousands of commissions and bonus packages 

=== advertising budgets 

=== martini lunches 

Thus reducing the cost of health care ..............
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Socialism SUCKS............just ask Cuba today.                                        
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The subject was Medicare Single Payer, Goober.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TPr3h-UDA0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQ1lPPTPSR4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQFX32Ed7ZQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w_P9b_2Qvs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tG9pNoUwtT4
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razoo » 16 Jul 2021, 2:24 pm » wrote: Medicare Single Payer eliminates: 
=== over 1300 CEO salaries 

=== 1300 golden parachutes

 === the cost of 10,400 lobbyists 

=== 1300 sources of special interest campaign money 

=== 1300 different sources of administrative staffing 

=== thousands upon thousands of commissions and bonus packages 

=== advertising budgets 

=== martini lunches 

Thus reducing the cost of health care ..............
You have not BEGUN to list the savings.

What about multiple rafts of brick and mortar supported sales forces in every state in the land? What about an entire trade school trained industry called insurance coding? What about billions in television, radio, magazine, online and billboard advertising? How many hundreds of millions do Americans pay in "medical" costs for the geico gecko alone? How many hundreds of millions does it cost to reassure us that we are in "good hands?" How much does Madge add to our ever-progressive "medical" bills?
 
 
 

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Cannonpointer » 16 Jul 2021, 3:29 pm » wrote:
razoo » 16 Jul 2021, 2:24 pm » wrote: Medicare Single Payer eliminates: 
=== over 1300 CEO salaries 

=== 1300 golden parachutes

 === the cost of 10,400 lobbyists 

=== 1300 sources of special interest campaign money 

=== 1300 different sources of administrative staffing 

=== thousands upon thousands of commissions and bonus packages 

=== advertising budgets 

=== martini lunches 

Thus reducing the cost of health care ..............
You have not BEGUN to list the savings.

What about multiple rafts of brick and mortar supported sales forces in every state in the land? What about an entire trade school trained industry called insurance coding? What about billions in television, radio, magazine, online and billboard advertising? How many hundreds of millions do Americans pay in "medical" costs for the geico gecko alone? How many hundreds of millions does it cost to reassure us that we are in "good hands?" How much does Madge add to our ever-progressive "medical" bills?
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That'd be dependent-upon whichever hospital employs her.
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supraTruth » 16 Jul 2021, 2:54 pm » wrote: That isn't "socialism," that is DICtatorship.

BLM are now backing the Communist Dictatorship in Cuba.
BLM is a Marxist Group that preaches communism/socialism over American Free-Enterprise Capitalism.
Kamala, Omar, Tlaib, Cori, the Squad, Michael Moore, Rosie O'Donnell, & Sean Penn love BLM & socialism.
You love socialism because you want free **** from gov........because you are too weak & lazy
to support yourself.

"From each according to his ability......to each according to his need".
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razoo » 16 Jul 2021, 2:45 pm » wrote: it's not free health insurance we pay for it with our tax dollars which brings our tax dollars back to our communities = smart use of our money.

we the taxpayers have guaranteed health care for our tax dollar investment = a best bang for our tax dollar.

how many can afford cancer?
 Despite recently closing hundreds of bases in Iraq and Afghanistan, the United States still maintains nearly 800 military bases in more than 70 countries and territories abroad—from giant “Little Americas” to small radar facilities.

Britain, France and Russia, by contrast, have about 30 foreign bases combined. https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... ld-119321/ 

I would trade 400 bases for Single Payer for All Insurance Coverage
 

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Taipan » 16 Jul 2021, 4:19 pm » wrote:
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BLM are now backing the Communist Dictatorship in Cuba.
BLM is a Marxist Group that preaches communism/socialism over American Free-Enterprise Capitalism.
Kamala, Omar, Tlaib, Cori, the Squad, Michael Moore, Rosie O'Donnell, & Sean Penn love BLM & socialism.
You love socialism because you want free **** from gov........because you are too weak & lazy
to support yourself.
 GO GET 'EM, GOOBER!!!!!
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Phoenix68.2.0 » 16 Jul 2021, 3:42 pm » wrote: Image
That'd be dependent-upon whichever hospital employs her.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeDOQpfaUc8

I might be wrong, but I think Madge is the name of the girl from Progressive Insurance. Maybe it's Flo?

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Taipan » 16 Jul 2021, 4:19 pm » wrote: BLM are now backing the Communist Dictatorship in Cuba.
BLM is a Marxist Group that preaches communism/socialism over American Free-Enterprise Capitalism.
Kamala, Omar, Tlaib, Cori, the Squad, Michael Moore, Rosie O'Donnell, & Sean Penn love BLM & socialism.
You love socialism because you want free **** from gov........because you are too weak & lazy
to support yourself.

"From each according to his ability......to each according to his need".
                                                                                                                             Karl Marx, 1900.  
So spending more money for worse outcomes is the best way to go?

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COULD?

We won't know until we pass it...

That's true statesmanship.
 

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Taipan » 16 Jul 2021, 2:33 pm » wrote: Socialism SUCKS............just ask Cuba today.                                                  Image  .
Want some good Healthcare?  Welcome to Havana, gringo ****.
 

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IkeBana » 16 Jul 2021, 8:53 pm » wrote: Want some good Healthcare?  Welcome to Havana, gringo ****.

Wow.
Drinkin' a little tonite, are ya ??  
Nothing wrong w/ that.
You are an easy read.
Marine. ??    Good.      Earth needs good Marines.

Wait.....you are wounded about something.....somewhere.
Wait............somebody **** you up real bad, ........and now you think the world owes you something.
Maybe the Marines ?   Maybe.        I don't know the details.      I have heard stories about their
playing........hardball.      Does someone owe you something ?            Like the Gringo Gov.?
I have met 100 Marines who were rock-solid in their loyalty to...." Marines 1st......country 2nd".

Communism/socialism.......is the opposite U.S. Free-Enterprise, Capitalism.
In Havana, you cannot own your own business, farm, or ranch.   
All business is owned by The Communist Plantation.   The rest of the people are black slaves
or White peasants.


BLM, CRT,  & the Socialist Dems back this.       They are on the Communist side.

The GOP Marine.........has a "CHOICE".         He fights.         He is a 'rugged individualist' !!
He is a fighting Man !!
Texas mercenaries are fighting men.       We like the game.                

Each man has a right to choose.
I want you on our team.
Why don't you go down to the tavern & buy a keg of good beer.         On your dime.
Bring it back to the campfire.
One doz. good men will drink with you........and peace............will fill your heart.     
                                                                                                                                               
:)  .









 

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Taipan » 16 Jul 2021, 4:19 pm » wrote: BLM are now backing the Communist Dictatorship in Cuba.
BLM is a Marxist Group that preaches communism/socialism over American Free-Enterprise Capitalism.
Kamala, Omar, Tlaib, Cori, the Squad, Michael Moore, Rosie O'Donnell, & Sean Penn love BLM & socialism.
You love socialism because you want free **** from gov........because you are too weak & lazy
to support yourself.

"From each according to his ability......to each according to his need".
                                                                                                                             Karl Marx, 1900.  
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Wow.
Impressive.     
Sir,
Please let me share.
You have never known anyone who has received a letter from Harry S. Truman.
Until now.         I have.     12yrs.-old.    Truman & I, were both born in Missouri.
I am the son of a Missouri Corn-Farmer.
My mother was a pushy, drama-queen, city-girl *******.     You know the type. 
Need I say more ?

The Truman signature, notarized,  certified, is a "family heirloom"........& not
to be sold, at any price.    Never.       He is my favorite President.   Truman 
brought WW II.......to a stretching halt.......with power.
I like that kind of stuff.


Truman love to play poker.
So do I.
Hiroshima.         Nagasaki.        It was Mr. Truman that taught me the secret of
winning at business, poker, and war.         
Today, I am a poker-player.                                                                        
:)  

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razoo » 16 Jul 2021, 2:24 pm » wrote: Medicare Single Payer eliminates: 
=== over 1300 CEO salaries 

=== 1300 golden parachutes

 === the cost of 10,400 lobbyists 

=== 1300 sources of special interest campaign money 

=== 1300 different sources of administrative staffing 

=== thousands upon thousands of commissions and bonus packages 

=== advertising budgets 

=== martini lunches 

Thus reducing the cost of health care ..............
 
Virtually all medical bills in the United States would be paid by a single public agency using funds transferred from existing government health programs and from some new (mostly progressive) taxes. By reducing administrative waste and negotiating for lower drug prices, the Sanders program would be able to reduce the growth in national health care spending, even while extending coverage to all and eliminating all premiums, copayments, and deductibles of the existing system.
Improved Medicare for All would reduce costs relative to the current system. (See Figure 1.) The program would reduce national health care spending by increasing the efficiency of billing, reducing insurance-related costs, and negotiating lower drug prices.

It would also incur additional expenses by covering the 30 million residents who are currently uninsured, by reducing the barriers to access to health care coming from premiums, deductibles, and copayments, and by raising reimbursement rates to physicians and hospitals.

Overall, there would be nearly $700 billion in savings the first year, partially offset by nearly $400 billion in additional spending, for a net effect of nearly $300 billion in savings relative to the current system.

http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives ... edman.html


Closing 400 USA military bases of the 800 in other countries could help enormously in funding this insurance for we in America instead of supporting dictators around the world.
 
 

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70% support Medicare Single Payer InsuranceThe vast majority of Americans, 70 percent, now support Medicare-for-all, otherwise known as single-payer health care, according to a new Reuters survey.


That includes 85 percent of Democrats and 52 percent of Republicans. Only 20 percent of Americans say they outright oppose the idea.

“Medicare is a very popular program, so the idea of expanding it to everyone is popular as well,” Larry Levitt, senior vice president for health reform at the Kaiser Family Foundation, tells CNBC Make It.


“The advantage of Medicare-for-all, which is much closer to how the rest of the world provides health care to their residents, is that you can achieve universal coverage at a lower cost.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/28/most-am ... ition.html
 

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razoo » 16 Jul 2021, 4:33 pm » wrote:  Despite recently closing hundreds of bases in Iraq and Afghanistan, the United States still maintains nearly 800 military bases in more than 70 countries and territories abroad—from giant “Little Americas” to small radar facilities.

Britain, France and Russia, by contrast, have about 30 foreign bases combined. https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... ld-119321/ 

I would trade 400 bases for Single Payer for All Insurance Coverage
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/28/most-am ... ition.html

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