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https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... cy-228045/
Rosenberg, a professor at UC Irvine, was challenging a core assumption about America and the West. His theory? Democracy is devouring itself—his phrase — and it won’t last.As much as President Donald Trump’s liberal critics might want to lay America’s ills at his door, Rosenberg says the president is not the cause of democracy’s fall—even if Trump’s successful anti-immigrant populist campaign may have been a symptom of democracy’s decline.We’re to blame, said Rosenberg. As in “we the people.” 
 
Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide. 
     -  John Adams

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I used to believe in Democracy. I underestimated how susceptible the human brain is to propaganda, how much it lacks critical thinking, and how lazy the mind really is when it comes to long term planning and gaining a wide perspective.

Democracy is not the ideal form of government.

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SJConspirator » 22 Jul 2021, 10:05 am » wrote: I used to believe in Democracy. I underestimated how susceptible the human brain is to propaganda, how much it lacks critical thinking, and how lazy the mind really is when it comes to long term planning and gaining a wide perspective.

Democracy is not the ideal form of government.
We may need to create a hybrid. Not sure what it is.

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Bidennextpresident » 22 Jul 2021, 10:36 am » wrote: We may need to create a hybrid. Not sure what it is.

A technocracy.  A computer program coded to govern in a way that provides the greatest utility and freedom possible, within sensible limits

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SJConspirator » 22 Jul 2021, 10:05 am » wrote: I used to believe in Democracy. I underestimated how susceptible the human brain is to propaganda, how much it lacks critical thinking, and how lazy the mind really is when it comes to long term planning and gaining a wide perspective.

Democracy is not the ideal form of government.
Then get the **** out

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SJConspirator » 22 Jul 2021, 10:46 am » wrote: A technocracy.  A computer program coded to govern in a way that provides the greatest utility and freedom possible, within sensible limits
With AI, that could be a possibility.

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SJConspirator » 22 Jul 2021, 10:46 am » wrote: A technocracy.  A computer program coded to govern in a way that provides the greatest utility and freedom possible, within sensible limits
GIGO
 
 

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Bidennextpresident » 22 Jul 2021, 10:48 am » wrote: With AI, that could be a possibility.
Dude he wants a white supremacist nation where women are slaves

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Vegasgiants » 22 Jul 2021, 10:48 am » wrote: Dude he wants a white supremacist nation where women are slaves

I never saw him say that.

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Can you morph into a guy with something interesting to talk about?

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Ask him

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SJConspirator » 22 Jul 2021, 10:50 am » wrote: Can you morph into a guy with something interesting to talk about?
You first
 

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Not interested.

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Lies.  Projection.  You are projecting your own wishes on me, with a twist... you want white men to be slaves to Jews, herded into tiny polluted cities working to power the machines while the Jew masters are free to roam the earth, extract organs from the populace at will to gain immortality, and explore outer space.

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Good article by Rosenberg. I would challenge the term "right wing populism" because the movement has nothing to do with populism. They are neo-fascists.

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Bidennextpresident » 22 Jul 2021, 10:36 am » wrote: We may need to create a hybrid. Not sure what it is.
Ever heard of fascism?

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FOS » 22 Jul 2021, 11:26 am » wrote: Ever heard of fascism?

Yes, studied it in high school. Which you did not as a drop out. Everyone is more informed than you.

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SJConspirator » 22 Jul 2021, 10:46 am » wrote: A technocracy.  A computer program coded to govern in a way that provides the greatest utility and freedom possible, within sensible limits

we already have this. Not computers per se, but technocrats.

Our elected politicians do not hold the real power in this country.

If you are ruled by computers, it will wind up being for the benefit of computers. The 'sensible limits' will be anything that might harm computer rule. 

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Bidennextpresident » 22 Jul 2021, 11:27 am » wrote: Yes, studied it in high school. Which you did not as a drop out. Everyone is more informed than you.
Soni assume that is your high school your read Giovanni gentile and can cite to me the section where he explained how fascism would be a hybrid of democracy and dictatorship 

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FOS » 22 Jul 2021, 11:35 am » wrote: Soni assume that is your high school your read Giovanni gentile and can cite to me the section where he explained how fascism would be a hybrid of democracy and dictatorship
Familiar with the guy. So what?

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