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Neo » 19 Oct 2021, 7:47 am » wrote: Invitro lab studies have shown effectiveness against rona, I am sorry your media lied to you. Perhaps instead of getting defensive you should direct your ire to those who lied to you?
Then tell petri...

But stop lying about it.

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These people are so **** stupid..During the early months of Covid-19 vaccinations, several major demographic groups lagged in receiving shots, including Black Americans, Latino Americans and Republican voters.More recently, the racial gaps — while still existing — have narrowed. The partisan gap, however, continues to be enormous. A Pew Research Center poll last month found that 86 percent of Democratic voters had received at least one shot, compared with 60 percent of Republican voters.

 The political divide over vaccinations is so large that almost every reliably blue state now has a higher vaccination rate than almost every reliably red state:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/27/brie ... tions.html


When they show up with Covid, invite them to stay in the parking lot and die.

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Blackvegetable » 19 Oct 2021, 7:40 am » wrote: Ivermectin is a dewormer.

Period.
Abstract

Background: Repurposed medicines may have a role against the SARS-CoV-2 virus. The antiparasitic ivermectin, with antiviral and anti-inflammatory properties, has now been tested in numerous clinical trials.

Conclusions: Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally.

https://journals.lww.com/americantherap ... _of.7.aspx




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Neo » 19 Oct 2021, 7:22 am » wrote: Ivermectin is a broad spectrum anti-parasitic that has been proven to be effective against covid19 and has been prescribed to billions of people with very few side effects. The "horse dewormer" garbage is straight from Judds Idiocracy or Orwells 1984.
The "horse dewormer" garbage is straight from Judds Idiocracy or Orwells 1984.
I've fed it to my dogs.

Why don't you stop denying the facts 

 

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neueregel » 19 Oct 2021, 8:00 am » wrote: Abstract

Background: Repurposed medicines may have a role against the SARS-CoV-2 virus. The antiparasitic ivermectin, with antiviral and anti-inflammatory properties, has now been tested in numerous clinical trials.

Conclusions: Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally.

https://journals.lww.com/americantherap ... _of.7.aspx

Follow the science
you morons can't even read.


How many qualifiers in the conclusion?


Do you think they are there as a **** courtesy?



 

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Advocates of ivermectin have pointed to a study that ivermectin can stop the replication of SARS-CoV-2 in a test tube — but that is nothing new when it comes to viruses.

"Ivermectin has been shown to inhibit a broad spectrum of DNA and RNA viruses with no underlying unifying logic (HIV, influenza, Dengue, Zika, pseudorabiesvirus, polyoma virus, adenovirus)," said Dr. Benhur Lee, a Professor of Microbiology at Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai, via email. "These results were all based on in vitro test-tube/cell culture work; to a virologist, that raises eyebrows."

"In vitro" refers to studies that take place in test tubes, petri dishes, or otherwise outside of human patients. Lee used an example to explain how what happens in vitro might not necessarily translate to the human body.

"I can increase the concentration of sodium chloride (table salt) by 50% to my tissue culture cells and show inhibition of most viruses," Lee said. "But I don't go asking people to eat as much salty food as possible to combat virus infections, much less SARS-CoV-2."

Lee added that hoping ivermectin works based on "in vitro efficacy studies" is "magical thinking."

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Lee added that hoping ivermectin works based on "in vitro efficacy studies" is "magical thinking."

In the literature, Lee said, "you will hear about [terms like] 'IC50' or 'EC50' – that is, what is the concentration of drug that will inhibit 50% of the virus replication." Lee explained that the level of drug concentration needed to stop replication in the body "simply cannot be achieved."

"The concentration of drug required to inhibit 90% of virus replication in the body – a minimal standard when it comes to antiviral drug action – simply cannot be achieved based on the known pharmacology of the drug," Lee added in a follow-up interview.

This is all to say that the evidence does not look good for ivermectin as a COVID-19 treatment.

https://www.salon.com/2021/08/18/iverme ... -analyzed/

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Phelix_Dacat » 19 Oct 2021, 8:05 am » wrote: Lee added that hoping ivermectin works based on "in vitro efficacy studies" is "magical thinking."

In the literature, Lee said, "you will hear about [terms like] 'IC50' or 'EC50' – that is, what is the concentration of drug that will inhibit 50% of the virus replication." Lee explained that the level of drug concentration needed to stop replication in the body "simply cannot be achieved."

"The concentration of drug required to inhibit 90% of virus replication in the body – a minimal standard when it comes to antiviral drug action – simply cannot be achieved based on the known pharmacology of the drug," Lee added in a follow-up interview.

This is all to say that the evidence does not look good for ivermectin as a COVID-19 treatment.

https://www.salon.com/2021/08/18/iverme ... -analyzed/

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They've been told this....weeks ago.


@Neo  &  ​​@neue regel  are impervious to facts....

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These are unusually stupid people.

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Blackvegetable » 19 Oct 2021, 8:09 am » wrote: They've been told this....weeks ago.

@Neo  &  ​​@neue regel  are impervious to facts....

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These are unusually stupid people.
Much longer ago than that, and often and often. It just needs to be restated every few weeks to even out their misinformation. Refer to: if black people addressed every instance of bigotry, they'd have no time for anything else in their lives.

Also, it's not their stupid that burns so brightly. It's their indifference to the people they are trying to kill with their lies that shines a light on their withered souls. They give sociopaths a bad name.
 
 
 

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Blackvegetable » 19 Oct 2021, 8:02 am » wrote: you morons can't even read.

How many qualifiers in the conclusion?

Do you think they are there as a **** courtesy?
Why are you so vehemently opposed to a known medicine that MIGHT show promise? It makes no sense. You should WANT that. Instead, I present a study that might be hopeful, not to replace the vaccine but to act as a pillar for treatment and you join CNN in lying about it?

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B.See » 19 Oct 2021, 5:16 am » wrote: In coronavirus news:

New study shows vaccine refusal's staggering cost in human life

"A new study concludes that 90,000 deaths could have been avoided over a period of four months, from June through September, if more people had gotten vaccinated.  Meanwhile, Republicans are making opposition to vaccine mandates a core part of their party identity, above even fealty to corporate power. In this new study, we see the deadly cost of that stance."



 
 
 
Always multiple potentials to actual results. You cannot deal with life in real time mentally here because you loathe the physical kinetic result you exist as one of a kind.

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neueregel » 19 Oct 2021, 8:23 am » wrote: Why are you so vehemently opposed to a known medicine that MIGHT show promise? It makes no sense. You should WANT that. Instead, I present a study that might be hopeful, not to replace the vaccine but to act as a pillar for treatment and you join CNN in lying about it?
Why do you PRESUME it "might"?

Vinegar douche "might" work.


Would you spend a SECOND thinking about relying on it?

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Blackvegetable » 19 Oct 2021, 8:28 am » wrote: Why do you PRESUME it "might"?

Vinegar douche "might" work.

Would you spend a SECOND thinking about relying on it?
Because studies have shown it can be effective. Why do you hope it WONT work? I don’t understand. There has to be a reason….even maybe a good one. 

If I understood, it might help put into context why CNN would so brazenly lie about it. 

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Blackvegetable » 19 Oct 2021, 8:28 am » wrote: Why do you PRESUME it "might"?

Vinegar douche "might" work.


Would you spend a SECOND thinking about relying on it?
because you spent 18 months pretending covid-19 was end of time and it never was. Your intellectual mind doesn't have a navigating brain in your entire group think.

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neueregel » 19 Oct 2021, 8:37 am » wrote: Because studies have shown it can be effective. Why do you hope it WONT work? I don’t understand. There has to be a reason….even maybe a good one. 

If I understood, it might help put into context why CNN would so brazenly lie about it.
Because studies have shown it can be effective.
the in vitro study?

Be specific.
Why do you hope it WONT work?
it's not about "hope"....."hope" is continuing to cling to it, in spite of the lack of evidence.

Do you understand the role the liver plays in dosage?

 

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Blackvegetable » 19 Oct 2021, 8:51 am » wrote: the in vitro study?

Be specific.

it's not about "hope"....."hope" is continuing to cling to it, in spite of the lack of evidence.

Do you understand the role the liver plays in dosage?
Let's go at this from another angle....why do you think CNN would knowingly lie about the medicine Rogan took? What are they pushing? I know you will just be guessing but would love to hear your opinion.

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neueregel » 19 Oct 2021, 9:13 am » wrote: Let's go at this from another angle....why do you think CNN would knowingly lie about the medicine Rogan took? What are they pushing? I know you will just be guessing but would love to hear your opinion.
Let's not...

Please answer the questions first.
 

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neueregel » 19 Oct 2021, 9:13 am » wrote: Let's go at this from another angle....why do you think CNN would knowingly lie about the medicine Rogan took? What are they pushing? I know you will just be guessing but would love to hear your opinion.
Nobody "lied."  Ivermectin IS a horse dewormer.  You can buy it at the feed store with pictures of horses and cows on the packaging.  The medication can also be used to treat lice and scabies - it's a known anti-parisitic.  However large doses of the stuff can land you in the hospital with EXTREME abdominal pain.  

Clinical trials are still ongoing but, to date, Ivermectin has no known benefit to treat Covid-19.

https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer- ... t-covid-19
 

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Phelix_Dacat » 19 Oct 2021, 8:15 am » wrote: Much longer ago than that, and often and often. It just needs to be restated every few weeks to even out their misinformation. Refer to: if black people addressed every instance of bigotry, they'd have no time for anything else in their lives.

Also, it's not their stupid that burns so brightly. It's their indifference to the people they are trying to kill with their lies that shines a light on their withered souls. They give sociopaths a bad name.
I think what we can safely conclude is that Ivermectin shows promise in vitro, and efficacy post mortem.

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RollingRock » 19 Oct 2021, 9:23 am » wrote:
neueregel » 19 Oct 2021, 9:13 am » wrote: Let's go at this from another angle....why do you think CNN would knowingly lie about the medicine Rogan took? What are they pushing? I know you will just be guessing but would love to hear your opinion.
Nobody "lied."  Ivermectin IS a horse dewormer.  You can buy it at the feed store with pictures of horses and cows on the packaging.  The medication can also be used to treat lice and scabies - it's a known anti-parisitic.  However large doses of the stuff can land you in the hospital with EXTREME abdominal pain.  

Clinical trials are still ongoing but, to date, Ivermectin has no known benefit to treat Covid-19.

https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer- ... t-covid-19
Ivermecton has been used to treat BILLIONS all over the word since the 70s.  A new study is starting in Texas:

The human form of Ivermectin, that is already being administered to people to treat conditions caused by parasitic worms, is not to be confused with the animal form of the drug. Dr. Michaelson said that their study of the drug will be very precise in terms of dosages administered to patients.
“One of those study drugs is Ivermectin which as you mentioned has been in the news quite a bit. The one we are using will be the human version and we will be adjusting the dose to the person’s body weight, so that’ll be a little different then how people are buying it over the internet – Ivermectin for animals – and not being careful about the dose.”
https://www.ktsm.com/news/controversial ... n-el-paso/

 
 

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