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Phoenix68.2.0 » 02 Oct 2021, 12:02 pm » wrote: .
Inside The Lefts Revenge Plot Against Kyrsten Sinema
October 2, 2021
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"Manchin’s demands are at least clear — slashing the bill’s spending down to $1.5 trillion, adding means testing and work requirements to social-safety net programs — and there’s little confusion about his negotiating position vis a vis the Build Back Better Act.
 
Sinema’s motivations are much harder to parse. Khanna and other Democrats call her opposition “inauthentic” and a ploy for garnering media attention as much as passing major legislation. Only fueling the animosity toward Sinema are reports that she left Washington on Friday while the negotiations over Biden’s legislative agenda were still ongoing."

Unfortunately Manchin's 1.5 trillion he CLAIMS he supports (I believe it's a con job) won't pay for MUCH of what's in the proposal. I just got back  home from a vacay to catch tonights John Oliver's segment re Manchin and Sinema:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKDu1Ta0_qc


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razoo » 02 Oct 2021, 7:32 am » wrote: Charles Koch like Manchin is a polluter and Sinema might have investments in polluters .....

Charles Koch also has ALEC and DLC  that runs and funds political campaigns by way of Ageis Strategic.
ALEC is the COVID GOP and DLC is the COVID democrats.  

The Koch name also owns oil and gas interests plus uranium processing plants which are extremely radioactive
in nature.
**** off. Your progressive agenda is getting  flushed down the tiolet. 
 


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That’s hilarious considering corporations are who will be getting the most of that printed out of thin air dollars while you suffer record inflation, *******. 

It’s hilarious how the globalist corporatists got you idiots on their side by simply buying out your MSM sources, 

 


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B.See » 29 Sep 2021, 9:24 pm » wrote: I mean, if these two are Democrats then I'm Little Bo Peep.  Too much corporate money lining their pockets I think:


 
As Bill Maher said, they are not **** crazy.

Face it, Bidiot is neutered, and none of this crazy crap will ever pass.

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Str8tEdge » 08 Oct 2021, 4:18 am » wrote: That’s hilarious considering corporations are who will be getting the most of that printed out of thin air dollars while you suffer record inflation, *******. 

It’s hilarious how the globalist corporatists got you idiots on their side by simply buying out your MSM sources,
Get back Loretta, to the **** you came from! :x   :x   :x  
 

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RollingRock » 30 Sep 2021, 10:23 am » wrote: I tend to believe that unbridled corporate whorism is the problem with these two.  The two headlines below showcase the problem, imo:

Backed by big oil, Manchin holds the Key to Dem' climate agenda  

Big Pharma, medical firms donated $750K to Kyrsten Sinema — then she opposed drug bill

As long as these two are beholden to their corporate donors, they are NOT serving the American voters who made their way through a pandemic to cast their votes in record numbers for Democrats and Joe Biden.  If Democrats, as a whole, do not come through for the American people (i.e. healthcare, voting rights, child care, climate), then we are going to lose.  

This bill represents the most aggressive progressive agenda I have witnessed to date on a national level.  It NEEDS to pass.  The American people overwhelmingly need it to pass.  It is largely, if not entirely (depending on the final bill), paid for by raising the taxes on the ultra wealthy and corporations.  No family making less than $400,000 will see a tax increase.

What's not to like? 

Yet I fear it will not pass SOLELY because of these two senators.
You are absollutely correct. And unfortunated, as indicated by a recent poll, most Americans don't even know what the Democratic package entails because the Dems admittedly haven't done a good job of educating the people and the obstructionists on the right (and their corporate backed cronies like the Kochs and Heritage Foundation) have been allowed to control the narrative via their USUAL "alternate reality" ****.

And CLEARLY Sinema and Manchin are their co-conspirators:

Biden’s Women-Focused Economic Agenda Is Getting Destroyed by Joe Manchin – Mother Jones
Sinema primary challenge raises $100K in one week as Arizonans and media turn on her
Sinema’s Reign Shows How Political Corruption Can Destroy America Like Metastasized Cancer - by Thom Hartmann - The Hartmann Report
Political operatives warn 'obstructionist' Kyrsten Sinema: 'We’ve unseated much more powerful people' - Alternet.org
Sinema is still playing footsie with the Republicans who just tried to blow up the economy
Kyrsten Sinema ditches Senate negotiations for fundraising trip to Europe - Raw Story
Kyrsten Sinema’s ‘strange’ behavior completely mystifies MSNBC panel - Raw Story 
Sinema jaunts off for European fundraising trip, while progressives fight for our future – ConsumersAdvisory.com

 




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How are your sheep? Pretty ignorant to believe democrats aren't owned by corporate lobbies. Most corporations these days actively support progressive causes and candidates. There are literally trillions to be made from the climate change evangelism.  No actual progress need be made, only parroting a statement of belief. Seems they are following the Catholic Church business model to perfection. 
 

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Blackvegetable » 30 Sep 2021, 10:34 am » wrote:
Kyrsten is a brain dead whore.
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.....Who's picked-up where that other brain dead whore (i.e. Bubbles Blackburn) left off.

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Str8tEdge » 18 Oct 2021, 5:57 am » wrote: Spoken like a true Nazi fascist. How dare they step out of lock step with the rest of the fascist pigs.
You mean fascist pigs like the MAGA-T rumpists who are calling people traitors and deserters if they don't fork over their hard earned dough to the GRIFTER-IN-CHIEF??

lmfao

GOP national fundraising arm goes full cult, calls non-donors 'traitors' and 'deserters' to Trump
 

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Neo » 18 Oct 2021, 6:39 am » wrote: How are your sheep? Pretty ignorant to believe democrats aren't owned by corporate lobbies. Most corporations these days actively support progressive causes and candidates. There are literally trillions to be made from the climate change evangelism.  No actual progress need be made, only parroting a statement of belief. Seems they are following the Catholic Church business model to perfection.
Look champ. WE know that corporate money and lobbyist are involved in both parties.

There STILL IS A DIFFERENCE in what each party stands for. Sometimes slight and sometimes marked. But a DIFFERENCE. And anyone who says otherwise is either a complete moron or thinks WE are.

 
 

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B.See » 18 Oct 2021, 7:56 pm » wrote: Look champ. WE know that corporate money and lobbyist are involved in both parties. There STILL IS A DIFFERENCE in what each party stands for. And anyone who says differently is either a complete moron of thinks WE are.
Not a significant difference. You didn't learn the lesson of Donald Trump. Monied interests conspired to destroy and diminish an outsider. Had it been Bernie Sanders, had it been Oprah Winfrey, they would have been similarly attacked. A pragmatic moderate was painted as the second coming of Hitler by the media. Half of us saw this, you apparently didn't. 
 

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Neo » 18 Oct 2021, 8:00 pm » wrote: Not a significant difference. You didn't learn the lesson of Donald Trump. Monied interests conspired to destroy and diminish an outsider. Had it been Bernie Sanders, had it been Oprah Winfrey, they would have been similarly attacked. A pragmatic moderate was painted as the second coming of Hitler by the media. Half of us saw this, you apparently didn't.
A "pragmatic moderate"?? Throw out that koolaid, bud.

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B.See » 18 Oct 2021, 8:02 pm » wrote: A "pragmatic moderate"?? Throw out that koolaid, bud.
Name a republican that would have taken on the nra on bumpstocks. Name a republican that would have aggressively pursued sentencing reform for non violent drug offenders. Yes, he was the most liberal republican to ever be elected to president. Facts speak louder than rhetoric. 
 

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B.See » 18 Oct 2021, 7:50 pm » wrote: You mean fascist pigs like the MAGA-T rumpists who are calling people traitors and deserters if they don't fork over their hard earned dough to the GRIFTER-IN-CHIEF??

lmfao

GOP national fundraising arm goes full cult, calls non-donors 'traitors' and 'deserters' to Trump
DailyKos…… :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:  

No wonder you’re so misinformed.