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Neo » 19 Oct 2021, 1:45 pm » wrote: The top 1% pay 40% of all federal taxes yet only make 20% of the income. How much more should we penalize success so those dependent on the government can have more services?
They need to pay a slightly higher percentage of their total compensaton than you and I do.  

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SJConspirator » 19 Oct 2021, 1:23 pm » wrote:
Huey » 19 Oct 2021, 12:29 pm » wrote: Income has been increasing and there are like 10 million available jobs.  Why are we entitled to monthly stimulus checks?

for the same reason that the airlines industry CEOs, big pharma and big ag and the prison industrial complex et al get stimulus checks.

Now Ive answered your question, lets see if you can do the same.

Why should only the rich get free money?

 

 

You will have to be specific on this morning your are discussing.  

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RollingRock » 19 Oct 2021, 2:00 pm » wrote: They need to pay a slightly higher percentage of their total compensaton than you and I do.
They do. Nearly 40% to federal taxes.

We need to reduce spending. Less rebuilding **** nations that attack us, less bribing allies to like us. Less foreign spending in general. Smarter spending domestically. No more shrimp on treadmills or studies surrounding alcoholism in the lesbian community. Prisons aren't cheap, perhaps find a way to not incarcerate millions of non violent Americans. 
 
 

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RollingRock » 19 Oct 2021, 2:00 pm » wrote: They need to pay a slightly higher percentage of their total compensaton than you and I do.
:rolleyes:  

...if ?you brain-laundered republicrats understood money issuance we could ((((((GREATLY))))) reduce the need for 'direct taxation'....we could completely eliminate the 'income taxation' about which the idjit bidumptards are frequently  :o  bickering...  :loco:  

...[ugh...monetary ignoramuses working their holes  :o   about some 'illion dollar economy'...ugh]...  :loco:  

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razoo » 19 Oct 2021, 11:50 am » wrote: WE the people have a significant number of rights that should not be violated

Getting the checks out to taxpayers proved to be a plus for the economy.

The enactment of each round of payments coincided with a significant boost to personal income, as well as consumer spending, in that month. ... 

The stimulus payments enacted under the CARES Act were estimated to have boosted the country's economic output by 0.6 percent in 2020, according to the Congressional Budget Office.May 14, 2021 

Encourage Biden to do it monthly as a perpetual tax dollar refund ...... just keeps the economy moving. Tax dollars are generated by billions of tax payers which makes we citizens controlling managers. 

Once again economic boost checks demonstrated that Taxpayers are the single most effective and legitimate investment on planet earth. WE have a right to our money instead of it being wasted on many sorts of corporate welfare especially the bailing out of corporations. Obviously the USA can afford monthly stimulus checks.

Citizens have a right to: 
= Social Security Insurance
= Medicare for ALL Insurance
= Advanced Education for ALL
= job growth and/or entrepreneurship
= Maternity Leave
= Sustainable Living Wage if we want to reduce food assistance
= Safe Working Conditions
= Public Education backed with plenty of tutors for online education
= Clean Water
= Clean Air
= Cleaner Energy
= To Demand and Prosecute Inside Traders no matter what
= To Protect the US Postal Service
= To Prevent Take Over Of The Media by the Few
= Have A Right To Be Free of Politicians Forcing Their Private Agendas On All In America 
= How about the right in keeping politics out of health care issues such as Pandemics ? 
= The right to be free of voter suppression and expect voter suppression to be prosecuted.

 
 
 

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razoo » 19 Oct 2021, 11:50 am » wrote: WE the people have a significant number of rights that should not be violated

Getting the checks out to taxpayers proved to be a plus for the economy.

The enactment of each round of payments coincided with a significant boost to personal income, as well as consumer spending, in that month. ... 

The stimulus payments enacted under the CARES Act were estimated to have boosted the country's economic output by 0.6 percent in 2020, according to the Congressional Budget Office.May 14, 2021 

Encourage Biden to do it monthly as a perpetual tax dollar refund ...... just keeps the economy moving. Tax dollars are generated by billions of tax payers which makes we citizens controlling managers. 

Once again economic boost checks demonstrated that Taxpayers are the single most effective and legitimate investment on planet earth. WE have a right to our money instead of it being wasted on many sorts of corporate welfare especially the bailing out of corporations. Obviously the USA can afford monthly stimulus checks.

Citizens have a right to: 
= Social Security Insurance
= Medicare for ALL Insurance
= Advanced Education for ALL
= job growth and/or entrepreneurship
= Maternity Leave
= Sustainable Living Wage if we want to reduce food assistance
= Safe Working Conditions
= Public Education backed with plenty of tutors for online education
= Clean Water
= Clean Air
= Cleaner Energy
= To Demand and Prosecute Inside Traders no matter what
= To Protect the US Postal Service
= To Prevent Take Over Of The Media by the Few
= Have A Right To Be Free of Politicians Forcing Their Private Agendas On All In America 
= How about the right in keeping politics out of health care issues such as Pandemics ? 
= The right to be free of voter suppression and expect voter suppression to be prosecuted.
Universal HealthCare =  everyone in other countries are offered medical care under Universal Health Care.
 
 

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Cedar » 19 Oct 2021, 12:22 pm » wrote: If you prosecute insider trading who will be left to run congress?
We'll welcome the opportunity to replace them all if necessary.

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razoo » 20 Oct 2021, 6:52 am » wrote: Universal HealthCare =  everyone in other countries are offered medical care under Universal Health Care.
We have thousands of free clinics. Our poor have access to free health care. There are changes that should be made but a government takeover of health care isn't among them. ERs are flooded with poor people using them as free clinics for non emergency situations. Should do something about that. 
 

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Vegas » 19 Oct 2021, 12:08 pm » wrote: What good is any of this if these checks are keeping people from working?
== Like the people who keep repeating what you just repeated none have any idea what they are talking about.

== Low wages might be keeping people from returning to their former employers

== millions of parents who quit to care for their children after school shut downs may also be among those NOT returning to work

== households who realized they no longer need two paychecks to support their lifestyles

== right wing babblers who just need to make noise may not have a clue as to what is going on so they continue to offer misinformation

 

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Neo » 20 Oct 2021, 7:00 am » wrote: We have thousands of free clinics. Our poor have access to free health care. There are changes that should be made but a government takeover of health care isn't among them. ERs are flooded with poor people using them as free clinics for non emergency situations. Should do something about that.
Can you document any of the above?

You have no idea what you are talking about. There are no offers for government provided health care on the table that I am aware of. That is only available through the active duty military.

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razoo » 19 Oct 2021, 11:50 am » wrote: WE the people have a significant number of rights that should not be violated

Getting the checks out to taxpayers proved to be a plus for the economy.

The enactment of each round of payments coincided with a significant boost to personal income, as well as consumer spending, in that month. ... 

The stimulus payments enacted under the CARES Act were estimated to have boosted the country's economic output by 0.6 percent in 2020, according to the Congressional Budget Office.May 14, 2021 

Encourage Biden to do it monthly as a perpetual tax dollar refund ...... just keeps the economy moving. Tax dollars are generated by billions of tax payers which makes we citizens controlling managers. 

Once again economic boost checks demonstrated that Taxpayers are the single most effective and legitimate investment on planet earth. WE have a right to our money instead of it being wasted on many sorts of corporate welfare especially the bailing out of corporations. Obviously the USA can afford monthly stimulus checks.

Citizens have a right to: 
= Social Security Insurance
= Medicare for ALL Insurance
= Advanced Education for ALL
= job growth and/or entrepreneurship
= Maternity Leave
= Sustainable Living Wage if we want to reduce food assistance
= Safe Working Conditions
= Public Education backed with plenty of tutors for online education
= Clean Water
= Clean Air
= Cleaner Energy
= To Demand and Prosecute Inside Traders no matter what
= To Protect the US Postal Service
= To Prevent Take Over Of The Media by the Few
= Have A Right To Be Free of Politicians Forcing Their Private Agendas On All In America 
= How about the right in keeping politics out of health care issues such as Pandemics ? 
= The right to be free of voter suppression and expect voter suppression to be prosecuted.

The LAST thing the economy needs is a BOOST. That's why we have 5.4% inflation NOW and 10 million unfilled jobs. 

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razoo » 20 Oct 2021, 7:05 am » wrote: Can you document any of the above?

You have no idea what you are talking about. There are no offers for government provided health care on the table that I am aware of. That is only available through the active duty military.
Document that ERs are required to treat anyone regardless of ability to pay? Document that my brother in law takes his kids in for minor illnesses to the er every few months for free care? Document that waiting lines in ERs have been growing the past 20 years, much of it as a result of treating non emergencies? How would you like that documented? 

The VA is a mixed bag. Some of the hospitals I have seen were decent, not great but functional. Others decent? I wouldn't wish them on a progressive. 

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razoo » 20 Oct 2021, 7:05 am » wrote: Can you document any of the above?

You have no idea what you are talking about. There are no offers for government provided health care on the table that I am aware of. That is only available through the active duty military.
And any service member, active or veteran, has access to the VA system as well as on base medical treatment. This is obviously not limited to active duty. 
 

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Neo » 20 Oct 2021, 8:37 am » wrote: And any service member, active or veteran, has access to the VA system as well as on base medical treatment. This is obviously not limited to active duty.
Cannot be a vet if active duty did not come first......Still you have no clue about government health care open to all because it does not exist.

As I stated there is no gov't health care open to the public on the table .......... you are being stupid. 

Single Payer Health Insurance is not about government health care. Under Single Payer and/or Medicare Care for All........ health care remains a private industry.

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razoo » 20 Oct 2021, 9:05 am » wrote: Cannot be a vet if active duty did not come first......Still you have no clue about government health care open to all because it does not exist.

As I stated there is no gov't health care open to the public on the table .......... you are being stupid. 

Single Payer Health Insurance is not about government health care. Under Single Payer and/or Medicare Care for All........ health care remains a private industry.
Functionally the same and there are many progressives that do indeed support universal health care, not just single payer. That want to see insurance removed from the industry entirely. I honestly have no issues with single payer. 
 
 

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razoo » 20 Oct 2021, 7:02 am » wrote: == Like the people who keep repeating what you just repeated none have any idea what they are talking about.

== Low wages might be keeping people from returning to their former employers

== millions of parents who quit to care for their children after school shut downs may also be among those NOT returning to work

== households who realized they no longer need two paychecks to support their lifestyles

== right wing babblers who just need to make noise may not have a clue as to what is going on so they continue to offer misinformation

== will not last long if people don't return to work because there will be no money left to support all of this **** ^^^

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Cedar » 19 Oct 2021, 12:19 pm » wrote: If he doesn't have it he isn't spreading it.
How does he know whether or not he has it?

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Str8tEdge » 20 Oct 2021, 7:11 am » wrote: The LAST thing the economy needs is a BOOST. That's why we have 5.4% inflation NOW and 10 million unfilled jobs.
Nonsense stimulus checks do not inspire inflation = it is those with a consistent source of money making 75k or more and/or those with too much money who will pay too much because they can. 

Inflationary spending should be on all the minds no matter what load of cash one has. " Smart Spending Always" might be a good train of thought.

An example would be my daughter/her hubby were out shopping for a different home all of which were beyond reality inflated. They wanted our thinking on the matter ......this mom and dad were implying too much money for what you are looking at. Between the parents restraining and other buyers offering way over the asking prices......consistently they lost out.

THEN ONE DAY a best bang for the buck surfaced. A nice place not a mansion on 7 acres with a large wired  and HVAC building in excellent condition was right before their eyes for several hundred thousand less than previous properties. The property, landscape and all had been well maintained inside and out.  BUY THIS, BUY THIS, BUY THIS was all I could say. So they did.

My wife and I could have simply moved in doing a few small changes. The kids completely remodeled to their liking.

Thanks to inflation a nice windfall was gifted to them on the sale of their home thus they had plenty of dough. Even with the remodel they were many thousands ahead due to smart spending. 

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razoo » 20 Oct 2021, 10:52 am » wrote: How does he know whether or not he has it?
If he has it and doesn't know it his immune system is adequate to combat it, why does he need a vaccine? The vaccine doesn't prevent you from contracting and spreading the virus so please help me understand your logic?
 
 

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Cedar » 20 Oct 2021, 12:59 pm » wrote: If he has it and doesn't know it his immune system is adequate to combat it, why does he need a vaccine? The vaccine doesn't prevent you from contracting and spreading the virus so please help me understand your logic?
Always the most SELFISH DISGUSTING PIGS on the planet are TreasonMonkeys he can SPREAD IT he can KILL other people by SPREADING COVID about 750,000 people are DEAD in America and many of them because of SELFISH PRICKS like you who don't care WHO YOU KILL as long as you get to have your way

And you are a  LIAR. The vaccine DOES prevent most people from GETTING COVID Breakthrough cases are RARE and it DOES help in NOT SPREADING it when you DO get a breakthrough case it is just not 100% I have SHOWN YOU THE SCIENCE before but you are a LIAR and you LOVE TO TELL LIES and just be a pathetic childish PUNK
 
 
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