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Will the US eventually put foots on the ground against Russia?

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Here is an idea, by US supplying arms, hasn't America delegated the Ukrainian soldiers as US boots on the ground.

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Taipan » 09 May 2022, 4:07 pm » wrote: Ukraine are friends with NATO.
Ukraine is the 'buffer-zone' between Russia & E.U. NATO.
It is the NATO Brick-wall that will stop Russian Communism & Chinese Communism.

Finland & Sweden are now pushing hard to join NATO.
How about if more & more nations join NATO ?                                    
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I suggest you look at a map.
There are a finite number of countries in Europe.
I do not think the Swiss, the Lichtensteiners, the Andorrans, the Monacoans, the San Marinoans are likely to join. Who else  is left? Moldova, Serbia, Bosnia-Herezegovina?

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Xavier_Onassis » 11 May 2022, 11:29 am » wrote: I suggest you look at a map.
There are a finite number of countries in Europe.
I do not think the Swiss, the Lichtensteiners, the Andorrans, the Monacoans, the San Marinoans are likely to join. Who else  is left? Moldova, Serbia, Bosnia-Herezegovina?

Boris Johnson of U.K yesterday gave Sweden a "Personal Security Agreement".
Sweden & Finland are chafing at the bit to join NATO.     But they are afraid Russia
will attack if they apply for NATO Membership.

I suggest you look at a map.
All the Baltic States are now under direct threat of being eaten alive by the Great
Big Communist Russian Bear.      Vlad, "The Mad" wants the USSR back.
And he is willing to kill to get it.                                                       

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Russia is not in any way capable of fighting Sweden and Finland at present.
It is very far from succeeding in Ukraine.

Putin was truly stupid to invade Ukraine. Putin is about to turn 70.
He has been mostly in charge of Russia since 1999.

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Taipan » 11 May 2022, 12:14 pm » wrote: Boris Johnson of U.K yesterday gave Sweden a "Personal Security Agreement".
Sweden & Finland are chafing at the bit to join NATO.     But they are afraid Russia
will attack if they apply for NATO Membership.

I suggest you look at a map.
All the Baltic States are now under direct threat of being eaten alive by the Great
Big Communist Russian Bear.      Vlad, "The Mad" wants the USSR back.
And he is willing to kill to get it.                                                       
Sweden and Finland were never part of the USSR. Joining nato would serve Putin's propaganda purposes but wouldn't result in an invasion. It would result in the annexation of Ukraine and installation of Russian hypersonic nuclear weapons in western Ukraine.  Nothing good can come from expanding nato. 
 

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Neo » 11 May 2022, 2:53 pm » wrote: Sweden and Finland were never part of the USSR. Joining nato would serve Putin's propaganda purposes but wouldn't result in an invasion. It would result in the annexation of Ukraine and installation of Russian hypersonic nuclear weapons in western Ukraine.  Nothing good can come from expanding nato.

I disagree.
It is spring.
The Russian Bear has come out of its den.      The Bear is hungry,........very hungry.
It is willing to kill to get what it wants.
Finland, Sweden, & Norway are afraid of the hungry Bear.
Does Finland border Russia ?   (I think so)
Now you can see why the Viking Nordic Nations seek refuge inside of
the NATO Stronghold Fortress......... against Communist Domination.

What about the Baltic States?         
Will you assist NATO in defending them?

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NATO is bound to defend all the Baltic States, and will do so.
Finland has a very long border with Russia.

The Russians are not communists and have not been communists since 1991.

I think the odds are that Sweden and Finland (who have been allies for a century) will join NATO.
It benefits both NATO and these two countries.

Finland has many Swedish speaking citizens
Sweden has many Finnish speaking citizens.
Both have many Sami, or Laplanders.
 
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Taipan » 08 May 2022, 1:26 pm » wrote: No.
NATO.
This game is in their backyard.
They are strong & highly intelligent.
They can handle the problem.

With a little help........from their 'Big Brother'........across the pond.
UKRAINE IS NOT A NATO MEMBER
THE LEGAL REASON THEY NEVER BECAME PART OF NATO WAS THEY COULD NOT UPHOLD DEMOCRACY, INCLUDING TOTAL DIVERSITY, THE FAIR TREATMENT OF MINORITY POPULATIONS AND A COMMITMENT TO THE PEACEFUL RESOLUTION OF CONFLICTS.

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It was the goal of Zelenskyy's government to end the corruption and all the obstacles to joining NATO.

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Xavier_Onassis » 11 May 2022, 4:55 pm » wrote: It was the goal of Zelenskyy's government to end the corruption and all the obstacles to joining NATO.
You're full of crap !

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DISBAND NATO NOW !

It has no rationale to exist !

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righteous » 11 May 2022, 4:51 pm » wrote: UKRAINE IS NOT A NATO MEMBER
THE LEGAL REASON THEY NEVER BECAME PART OF NATO WAS THEY COULD NOT UPHOLD DEMOCRACY, INCLUDING TOTAL DIVERSITY, THE FAIR TREATMENT OF MINORITY POPULATIONS AND A COMMITMENT TO THE PEACEFUL RESOLUTION OF CONFLICTS.

Ukraine is the 'buffer-zone' between democratic Europe & Communist Russia.
It is much better to wage war on Ukraine soil w/ Ukraine men & NATO arms
.........than in the streets of Berlin.

Don't you agree?                                         
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Taipan » 12 May 2022, 7:48 am » wrote: Ukraine is the 'buffer-zone' between democratic Europe & Communist Russia.
It is much better to wage war on Ukraine soil w/ Ukraine men & NATO arms
.........than in the streets of Berlin.

Don't you agree?                                         
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Taipan » 12 May 2022, 7:48 am » wrote: Ukraine is the 'buffer-zone' between democratic Europe & Communist Russia.
It is much better to wage war on Ukraine soil w/ Ukraine men & NATO arms
.........than in the streets of Berlin.

Don't you agree?                                         
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It is better to end corruption of self evident compounding DNA additions than keep training every generation to remain corrupted until extinction happens "tomorrow".

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omh » 14 May 2022, 8:51 am » wrote: It is better to end corruption of self evident compounding DNA additions than keep training every generation to remain corrupted until extinction happens "tomorrow".

What does a non-corrupted soul look like ?
And what does..... "self evident compounding DNA additions" .....mean?

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Taipan » 14 May 2022, 9:22 am » wrote: What does a non-corrupted soul look like ?
And what does..... "self evident compounding DNA additions" .....mean?
A sole displacement proportionately alive as geographically maintaining numbers of its species occupying space now. Question of specificity to whom each is begins which generation are they among the 5 living?

Great great grandparents are 6.25% DNA of the arriving great great grandchild,
Great grandparents are 12.5% each arriving great great grandchild,
grand parents are 25% each arriving great great grandchild
parents are 50% each great great grandchild
Each great great grandchild either becomes 1 of 2 parents or not. end of story line to personal DNA forward for those that didn't
those that never went beyond 1 of 4 grandparents DNA stopped with childrn not parenting.

Get the biggest kinetic moving picture yet? Biology has always eternally separated reproductions before homo sapiens existed and will after homo sapins become extinct.

Each lifetime of the food chain is eternally separated to its relative cycle mutually evolving here. No exception inorganic or ancestral limite to native atmosphere universally present one of a kind.

Evolving [process isn't intellectually programmed, just molecular migration combined with DNA on the organic side after erosion changes inorganic universal positions.

Evolving ancestrally didn't start until inorganic combinations eroded and combined separately than inorganic does. Inversion conversion to details never the same again with results never duplicated in form or shape of ancestral positions here now.

Simple compounding flow expanding and contracting half life reproductions with static charged reproductive cells merging to spark another total sum created.

Action and reaction combining, specific gravity to universal position geometrical, geological, geographical, inorganic universally present, ancestrally displaced here now evolving in plain sight each navigating around one another currently performing social engineered outcomes denying real and punishing anyone defying reality.

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omh » 14 May 2022, 9:34 am » wrote: A sole displacement proportionately alive as geographically maintaining numbers of its species occupying space now. Question of specificity to whom each is begins which generation are they among the 5 living?

Great great grandparents are 6.25% DNA of the arriving great great grandchild,
Great grandparents are 12.5% each arriving great great grandchild,
grand parents are 25% each arriving great great grandchild
parents are 50% each great great grandchild
Each great great grandchild either becomes 1 of 2 parents or not. end of story line to personal DNA forward for those that didn't
those that never went beyond 1 of 4 grandparents DNA stopped with childrn not parenting.

Get the biggest kinetic moving picture yet? Biology has always eternally separated reproductions before homo sapiens existed and will after homo sapins become extinct.

Each lifetime of the food chain is eternally separated to its relative cycle mutually evolving here. No exception inorganic or ancestral limite to native atmosphere universally present one of a kind.

Evolving [process isn't intellectually programmed, just molecular migration combined with DNA on the organic side after erosion changes inorganic universal positions.

Evolving ancestrally didn't start until inorganic combinations eroded and combined separately than inorganic does. Inversion conversion to details never the same again with results never duplicated in form or shape of ancestral positions here now.

Simple compounding flow expanding and contracting half life reproductions with static charged reproductive cells merging to spark another total sum created.

Action and reaction combining, specific gravity to universal position geometrical, geological, geographical, inorganic universally present, ancestrally displaced here now evolving in plain sight each navigating around one another currently performing social engineered outcomes denying real and punishing anyone defying reality.

Well.....that explains it.
Thank you.                                                      
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Taipan » 14 May 2022, 10:15 am » wrote: Well.....that explains it.
Thank you.                                                      
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I get you will continue to ignore what life does so you can stay in character of reality making anything else seem possible from the fruition of deniers united against understanding simple biology.

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Neo » 09 May 2022, 5:03 pm » wrote: Any war against Russia will go nuclear in days if not hours. Since WWII Russian controlled territory has been reduced in size by 3/4ths. Nato, uncoincidentally, has expanded more than that in the same period. Tell me about communist expansion again?
Russia is roughly 1/8 of the inhabitable landmass according to wiki (the lazy man's bible).

That being 6.6 million square miles.
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You're claiming this is 25% of what it was a few decades ago?
...that it was 19.8 million square miles?

If they had Antarctica and South America back then it wouldn't have been enough.
Maybe throw in Australia...

But you say they have lost 3/4ths... Seems kinda thin...
 
 

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DeezerShoove » 16 May 2022, 11:24 am » wrote: Russia is roughly 1/8 of the inhabitable landmass according to wiki (the lazy man's bible).

That being 6.6 million square miles.
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You're claiming this is 25% of what it was a few decades ago?
...that it was 19.8 million square miles?

If they had Antarctica and South America back then it wouldn't have been enough.
Maybe throw in Australia...

But you say they have lost 3/4ths... Seems kinda thin...
I have not done the math. My point was the USSR dissolved under the understanding that, in part, nato wouldn't expand.  
 

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