JD Vance says look at the complete picture on guns

[Huey]

Here's your link ****. 

Survey Finds Teachers Don't Want Guns in the Classroom

But if you want to read it more than once you will have to register.

Teachers don't want this.  This country is already in trouble with getting good teachers onto public school classrooms.  Considering the responsibility they are already handed for your **** spoiled rotten children with their own **** smartphones, they're paid ****.  So the really qualified prospective teachers don't even consider it.  Particularly not after you're at parents night pissing and moaning about teaching your poor sensitive mutant offspring all the history, including the genocide abd the **** slavery.  And now you **** gunners want to make them responsible for providing armed law enforcement in the classroom?  And for not a **** penny more money?  You're the one who's **** stupid.

You poll was completed in 2018 and released in Feb 2019.


The sample was overwhelmingly female, reflecting the overall teacher population, which is disproportionately made up of women.

High school teachers and professors in higher education settings made up approximately 60 percent

You haven’t asked what I think.  it seems there was an over sampling in states perceived as liberal or anti gun.  

Like a lower educated individual you keep talking about arming teachers and I want to arm teachers.  You are framing the issues.

Now, my thoughts is in states where is legal if an teacher is properly trained, has a CCP, and meets any requirements of a particular state AND THEY WANT TO should be allowed to. Next time ASK what my position is BEFORE making a fool of yourself.

You are an old man.  Stop getting yourself so worked up o ver your created talking point.  Now carry on your misdirection, lies, and cuss words.  

 

[Xavier_Onassis]

Vance gives no real advice here, other than to say that schools should have only one door and be protected by armed guards.
It is desirable to know more about causes of dissatisfaction in life that causes young people to buy a gun and murder oodles of children. But what is really important is that it is also necessary to address the problems after the murders and murderers have been  analyzed and solutions to the problems implemented.

[Ike Bana]

You poll was completed in 2018 and released in Feb 2019.

The sample was overwhelmingly female, reflecting the overall teacher population, which is disproportionately made up of women.

High school teachers and professors in higher education settings made up approximately 60 percent

You haven’t asked what I think.  it seems there was an over sampling in states perceived as liberal or anti gun.  

Like a lower educated individual you keep talking about arming teachers and I want to arm teachers.  You are framing the issues.

Now, my thoughts is in states where is legal if an teacher is properly trained, has a CCP, and meets any requirements of a particular state AND THEY WANT TO should be allowed to. Next time ASK what my position is BEFORE making a fool of yourself.

You are an old man.  Stop getting yourself so worked up o ver your created talking point.  Now carry on your misdirection, lies, and cuss words.

Like I expected something  credible or legitimate outta of a Trump whore like you.  I don't ask what you think because I have no interest in the seditionist white supremacist, sexist, racist **** that is banging around in the empty space between your ears.

So interesting that we never hear you pissing and moaning about the filth coming out of Buffy, CP, **** or any of the rest of your ilk.  It's your **** cohort puking up demands to arm teachers.  Think it's ****?  Tell them not me...you hypocrite wanker.
 
 

[Buffalo]

U **** TRUMPER SCUM WON'T EVEN SUPPORT ARCHITECTURAL OR DRAFTING CLASSES OR WOOD SHOP ANYMORE OR EVEN PAY TEACHERS WHAT THEY ARE WORTH, BUT NOW U WANT THEM TO HAVE GUNS THAT U WON'T PAY FOR!  U WANT TEACHERS TO PAY FOR THEM?  U WANT TEACHERS CARRYING THEM IN HOLSTERS IN FRONT OF CHILDREN?  

SERIOUSLY, U **** TRUMPER SCUM ARE THE DUMBEST **** IN AMERICA EVER!

You ignorant dickhead!!!  It worked/works in Israel.  They have had 2 school shootings since arming the teachers in 1974!!!

"A number of the families of the Stoneman Douglas victims have proposed arming teachers, though their calls haven’t gotten nearly as much media attention as the band of students calling for more strict gun control. Specifically, those proposing arming teachers are only proposing allowing those who are already armed to carry in the classroom, such as someone with a military or law enforcement background. In Israel, where everyone is required to serve in the military, this is already the case.

And the results? Spectacular. When terrorists attacked a school in Maalot in 1974, instead of declaring every school a gun-free zone, Israel passed a law mandating armed security in schools, provided weapons training to teachers, and, even today, runs frequent active shooter drills. There have been only two school shootings since then, and both have ended with teachers killing the terrorists.'

https://thepoliticalinsider.com/israel-armed-teachers/

[supraTruth]

You ignorant dickhead!!!  It worked/works in Israel.  They have had 2 school shootings since arming the teachers in 1974!!!

"A number of the families of the Stoneman Douglas victims have proposed arming teachers, though their calls haven’t gotten nearly as much media attention as the band of students calling for more strict gun control. Specifically, those proposing arming teachers are only proposing allowing those who are already armed to carry in the classroom, such as someone with a military or law enforcement background. In Israel, where everyone is required to serve in the military, this is already the case.

And the results? Spectacular. When terrorists attacked a school in Maalot in 1974, instead of declaring every school a gun-free zone, Israel passed a law mandating armed security in schools, provided weapons training to teachers, and, even today, runs frequent active shooter drills. There have been only two school shootings since then, and both have ended with teachers killing the terrorists.'

https://thepoliticalinsider.com/israel-armed-teachers/

BUT ISRAEL IS A SOCIALIST NATION WILLING TO PAY THE COSTS!  HOW ABOUT U, DICK HEAD?

 
 
 

[Staplophobia]

If I'm a classroom teacher and some ******* walks into my classroom brandishing a 9" chef's knife I will beat him to the floor with a folding chair and then stomp him into a coma, *******.  If he has a Glock 17, a bunch of us are dead.
 
If there's no folding chair available, I might be forced to take his knife away from him and stick it up his ***.

You can't get your dick hard let alone pick up a folding chair.

[Buffalo]

BUT ISRAEL IS A SOCIALIST NATION WILLING TO PAY THE COSTS!  HOW ABOUT U, DICK HEAD?

 

Wrong, dingbat!!!

"The Zionist historical record needs to be corrected: the economic foundation of the State of Israel is not based on socialism...

Professor Katz has done a great service to correct the historical record on the issue of Israel's true economic origins and roots. Socialists didn't redeem the land of Israel; capitalists and private entrepreneurship did."

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/337330

 

[Jinn Martini]

ALL BY GUNS, U **** SCUMBAG!

ALL BY YOUNG PEOPLE,  dumb **** ******* !

I never heard of a gun entering some joint on its own and start killing people !


 

[Jinn Martini]

.  .  .  a classroom teacher who didn't want the gun in the first place.

I think you **** liar deliberately omitted / ignored the fact that teachers only carry a concealed weapon after a police-style training and on a  VOLUNTARY  basis !

But keep lying and making an ******* of yourself  . . .  ******* !
 

[Jinn Martini]

SO, ANOTHER TRUMPER SCUMBAG WHO BELIEVES TEACHERS ARE PAID TOO MUCH & WANTS THEM TO BUY & CARRY GUNS IN THE CLASSROOMS!

So how much should teachers be paid  . . .  considering most Dem teachers get their rewards by molesting little kids ?

[Jinn Martini]

.  .  .  this **** forum  .  . 
 

You must be a turd then, to want to stick around ?

[Jinn Martini]

The sample was overwhelmingly female, reflecting the overall teacher population, which is disproportionately made up of women.
 

Well, I'd rather have  ONLY  female teachers !

That would give me a better feeling of safety for my kids.

I've fond memories of my female teachers  . . .  not so much of my males ones !
A female teacher never raised her hand on me  . . .  a male one did, repeatedly.

May be a personal thing  . . .  I don't know !

Different generation  . . .  

[Jinn Martini]

Vance gives no real advice here, other than to say that schools should have only one door and be protected by armed guards.
It is desirable to know more about causes of dissatisfaction in life that causes young people to buy a gun and murder oodles of children. But what is really important is that it is also necessary to address the problems after the murders and murderers have been  analyzed and solutions to the problems implemented.

Blah Blah Blah Blah

[Huey]

Like I expected something  credible or legitimate outta of a Trump whore like you.  I don't ask what you think because I have no interest in the seditionist white supremacist, sexist, racist **** that is banging around in the empty space between your ears.

So interesting that we never hear you pissing and moaning about the filth coming out of Buffy, CP, **** or any of the rest of your ilk.  It's your **** cohort puking up demands to arm teachers.  Think it's ****?  Tell them not me...you hypocrite wanker.

     

Youre a **** troll.  And not very good at it.

[Xavier_Onassis]

If we want to end SHOOTINGS, then fewer guns is what we need.

[Buffalo]

If we want to end SHOOTINGS, then fewer guns is what we need.


 

You are a typical anti-gun idiot.  Always wanting to take guns away from legal, law abiding gun owners.

How about fewer criminals and crazy people?  

[FOS]

JD Vance is a Republican candidate but I like his thoughts on the Uvadle mass shooting. The Hillbilly Elegy author (a book I should have read years ago) says that there is a need to look at the complete picture when it comes to gun violence. The problem isn't just guns. Yes, that is an issue that needs to be seriously discussed in my opinion. However, trends like the decline of the family and other norms that prevented this sort of barbarity in the past. He also seems to be playing only one side on this tweet. Perhaps it's more of an all of the above when it comes to gun violence. Here is the tweet. 
Of course, there is also a very puzzling question of how to change society. Cultures tend to be organic and outside the realm of political and government control in America and other free societies. The issue of drug use and violent mass media have been discussed but how to change a culture is difficult. The internet tends to be a place that remains too unwieldy than the more centralized media of the past. Free speech is also a lot better than the government telling us what we can and can't say or believe but there is also the legal theory that you can't yell fire in a crowded theater. Therefore, there are limits on free speech as handed down by the Supreme Court. Especially if you think an active crime is about to be committed.
By the way, JD Vance was a vocal dissident of Trump during the 2016 election cycle but has since got a Trump endorsement for his current Senate run.

jd vance is an *** who said poor white people deserve to suffer

[Xavier_Onassis]

ALL BY YOUNG PEOPLE,  dumb **** ******* !

I never heard of a gun entering some joint on its own and start killing people !

The problem is mass shootings.
I never heard of an unarmed fool entering a classroom and shooting a bunch of children, and neither have you.
If the problem is unwanted shootings, then stop allowing crazy people to buy guns to shoot with.

[Jinn Martini]

I never heard of an unarmed fool entering a classroom and shooting a bunch of children . . .  

Look, retarded Cuban *******,  if the bloke is an  "unarmed fool"  how can he  "enter"  a classroom and shoot a bunch of children ?

He has no gun  . . .  he's unarmed,  remember ?  

[Jinn Martini]

If we want to end SHOOTINGS, then fewer guns is what we need.

Nope !

More guns in the right hands is what we need !