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SJConspirator » 24 Nov 2022, 5:11 pm » wrote: Its also about billionaires hoarding miles of land for the sole purpose of preventing anybody from using it.  

they do that to stop upstart entrepreneurs from interfering with their monopolies on various commodities, services etc
Let me see if I got this right.
Bill Gates have a constitutional right to buy  up as much land as he wants...so if we want to put a stop to him we need to force him to pay more tax on this land than what it is worth.
Once Gates dumps his land holdings..then millions of Average Americans will be able to snatch this land back up just as long as they are willing to pay the same  tax rate that forced Gates to sell.
 

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supraTruth4 » 23 Nov 2022, 10:13 pm » wrote: We need a National Land Value Tax & a recalculated Income Tax that starts at the top & works down in order to shift the taxes back up and off the backs of the working middle class and barely rich small business owners!
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That idea is total insanity. but you like it. I understand why it will fail just like every democracy and dictatorship has or imploding currently.

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GHETTOBLASTER » 24 Nov 2022, 5:35 pm » wrote: Let me see if I got this right.
Bill Gates have a constitutional right to buy  up as much land as he wants...so if we want to put a stop to him we need to force him to pay more tax on this land than what it is worth.
Once Gates dumps his land holdings..then millions of Average Americans will be able to snatch this land back up just as long as they are willing to pay the same  tax rate that forced Gates to sell.
You don't have it right lol

LVT is a huge school of economics.  People studied it for years.  You're not going to sum it up in a paragraph.
 
Basically all the non-Jewish economists favored LVT or variants thereof at the turn of the century.  After 1913, they phased out of college curriculum the texts of the classical economists like Henry George. 

When you argue against LVT, you are arguing for high taxes.  That's one fact of it.
 

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supraTruth4 » 23 Nov 2022, 10:13 pm » wrote: We need a National Land Value Tax & a recalculated Income Tax that starts at the top & works down in order to shift the taxes back up and off the backs of the working middle class and barely rich small business owners!
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Those taxes will be passed on to ALL consumers.  

I know you leftists think yer getting even for something by raising taxes on the rich. But all you'll accomplish is making the poor poorer.


All overhead is passed down stream.   And without admitting it, the party you vote for will do every thing they can to shield their money from the higher taxes.

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roadkill » 24 Nov 2022, 6:46 pm » wrote: Those taxes will be passed on to ALL consumers.  

I know you leftists think yer getting even for something by raising taxes on the rich. But all you'll accomplish is making the poor poorer.

All overhead is passed down stream.   And without admitting it, the party you vote for will do every thing they can to shield their money from the higher taxes.
^another genius who never sat thru economics 101 but just "feels what is right" ^
 
 

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SJConspirator » 24 Nov 2022, 6:48 pm » wrote: ^another genius who never sat thru economics 101 but just "feels what is right" ^
Explain that please.

The #1 problem is over spending by the government.


BTW...Green is a scam!

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roadkill » 24 Nov 2022, 6:56 pm » wrote: Explain that please.

The #1 problem is over spending by the government.

BTW...Green is a scam!

LVT is a deeeeep subject.  It's a system of economics that is a third way, superior to both capitalism and socialism.  It's quasi libertarian because it reduces taxes so drastically, government starves.

It annoys me to see people come and pass judgement on something without knowing a damn thing about it, when libraries have been written exploring the topic.

It's like me saying I am an expert on atomic fusion and I never read a science book

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I know green is a scam.. but there was no political label for Geoist

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SJConspirator » 24 Nov 2022, 7:32 pm » wrote: LVT is a deeeeep subject.  It's a system of economics that is a third way, superior to both capitalism and socialism.  It's quasi libertarian because it reduces taxes so drastically, government starves.

It annoys me to see people come and pass judgement on something without knowing a damn thing about it, when libraries have been written exploring the topic.

It's like me saying I am an expert on atomic fusion and I never read a science book

I heard yer opinion...not an answer.  


And you support Green...for what reason has yet to be explained why it isn't prime time yet.

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roadkill » 24 Nov 2022, 7:36 pm » wrote: I heard yer opinion...not an answer.  

And you support Green...for what reason has yet to be explained why it isn't prime time yet.
you give no indication you have have read jack squat about the topic.  You are trying hard not to understand.

As CP would say you prefer a prescription vs a description
 

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SJConspirator » 24 Nov 2022, 7:38 pm » wrote: you give no indication you have have read jack squat about the topic.  You are trying hard not to understand.

As CP would say you prefer a prescription vs a description

And yer still chattering.  Explain it for all of us to read. While yer at it tell us why Green is far behind oil...it's not even close!

Then tell us when yer ready to throw oil away and how our lives would be as soon as you do that.

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roadkill » 24 Nov 2022, 7:41 pm » wrote: And yer still chattering.  Explain it for all of us to read. While yer at it tell us why Green is far behind oil...it's not even close!

Then tell us when yer ready to throw oil away and how our lives would be as soon as you do that.

My label of green is sarcastic.  I don't give a **** about Green energy.

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Roadkill, please explain brain surgery to us in a quick tutorial, since you know everything despite not ever reading a **** book

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supraTruth4 » 23 Nov 2022, 10:13 pm » wrote: We need a National Land Value Tax & a recalculated Income Tax that starts at the top & works down in order to shift the taxes back up and off the backs of the working middle class and barely rich small business owners!
 
Good luck with that !
The government is not here for the people  . . .  it's here to enrich themselves !

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GHETTOBLASTER » 24 Nov 2022, 5:09 pm » wrote: So once LVT is put into play the billionaires will walk away from the ranch land and farm lands they bought from the common folk and the common folk will be able to buy this land back with less tax burden than what they had before.
sounds good.
Not quite. Tax on land would go up, not down, under an LVT scheme. PRICES on land would go down. 

The biggest single effect it would have is on people who horde. It would **** them. RIGHT NOW, there are people hording land, preventing it from rising to its highest and best use. This is true of agricultural land, as well as municipal lots. That would end, right quick. Agricultural land would be farmed, sold, or abandoned. Vacant city lots would be built, sold, or abandoned. If abandoned, they could be got for the price of the back taxes. 

It would put a stop to urban sprawl. It would put a stop to farm-land hording. It would end the chinee buying up agricultural real estate, to keep it out of production.

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SJConspirator » 24 Nov 2022, 7:43 pm » wrote: My label of green is sarcastic.  I don't give a **** about Green energy.

I'm glad to hear that...and I'm not trying to disrespect you SJ.

What are the details to yer plan going forward? That's a friendly honest question.

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roadkill » 24 Nov 2022, 6:46 pm » wrote: Those taxes will be passed on to ALL consumers.  
 
Which taxes aren't?
 

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You tell me.

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No, no. I didn't bring it up as an objection to the LVT.

SJC and I spent several pages in another thread cornering that fool on LVT while he was SHRIEKING about how California oughta "raise taxes on the rich." We pointed out that money can (and does - especially in the case of Cali) leave town - land cannot.

Then he turns around and starts a thread - without ever admitting error. He's a **** turd.

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Cannonpointer » 24 Nov 2022, 8:20 pm » wrote: No, no. I didn't bring it up as an objection to the LVT.

SJC and I spent several pages in another thread cornering that fool on LVT while he was SHRIEKING about how California oughta "raise taxes on the rich." We pointed out that money can (and does - especially in the case of Cali) leave town - land cannot.

Then he turns around and starts a thread - without ever admitting error. He's a **** turd.

What's the details on LVT?   

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