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FJB » 25 Jan 2023, 9:18 am » wrote: legal gun owners are not the problem.
Many of the shooters acquired their guns legally,and they were DEFINITELY a problem.
We will continue to have mass shootings on a weekly basis until drastic measures are taken.
We can blame the Supremke Court for its bad decision as well as the NRA and ******* jerks like you, dumbduck.

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Xavier_Onassis » 25 Jan 2023, 10:15 am » wrote: Many of the shooters acquired their guns legally,and they were DEFINITELY a problem.
We will continue to have mass shootings on a weekly basis until drastic measures are taken.
We can blame the Supremke Court for its bad decision as well as the NRA and ******* jerks like you, dumbduck.

FIrearms have been accessible for many years in the quantity available now.  So what has changed?  What bad decision?

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Nostradamus' omh said:
Xavier_Onassis » 25 Jan 2023, 10:15 am » wrote: Many of the shooters acquired their guns legally,and they were DEFINITELY a problem.
We will continue to have mass shootings on a weekly basis until drastic measures are taken.
We can blame the Supremke Court for its bad decision as well as the NRA and ******* jerks like you, dumbduck.
State of mind evolves through social senarios experienced adapting in space mutually evolving forward here, so when nothing stays the same and never follows predicted paths of intellectual planning better tomorrows than living delivered now, a mind obeys what society nurtured them to believe since birth.

Eliminate what contradicts your each person's ideas about eternal life by any means necessary for the greater good of humanity's more important than survival of the species.
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FJB said:
Xavier_Onassis » 25 Jan 2023, 10:15 am » wrote: Many of the shooters acquired their guns legally,and they were DEFINITELY a problem.
We will continue to have mass shootings on a weekly basis until drastic measures are taken.
We can blame the Supremke Court for its bad decision as well as the NRA and ******* jerks like you, dumbduck.

so you want to take away 2nd Amendment rights of fellow Americans....

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Skans » 25 Jan 2023, 8:50 am » wrote: Talk about a ******* to clean!  I have the Mark II - perhaps one of the more difficult guns to take apart and get back together.  On mine, some crud built up on a sear/plunger connected to the trigger.  Often the gun wouldn't fire when I pulled the trigger.  It wasn't until I was down to the very last part in the frame that I saw the problem!  Mer-Fer!!!  Cleaned it and it runs like a champ.  But, the time I had into taking the thing apart and getting it back together is ridiculous.

I hear that subsequent versions are quite as bad......I heard.
Once you learn about that little free swinging push-rod, it's a little easier.
One less thing to fight with.
Getting that upper hooked into the lower is a mother ****, though.
Mine has hammer marks because I got so frustrated...  ;)  

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Deezer Shoove said:
Xavier_Onassis » 25 Jan 2023, 10:15 am » wrote: Many of the shooters acquired their guns legally,and they were DEFINITELY a problem.
We will continue to have mass shootings on a weekly basis until drastic measures are taken.
We can blame the Supremke Court for its bad decision as well as the NRA and ******* jerks like you, dumbduck.
Got any proof of this crap?

"Many" means what? Stack the numbers up and convince yourself.
You better outlaw ladders while you're saving humanity. :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:  

Ban this:
Bicycles, balconies, cheap shoes, etc.
Anything pointy and never forget the worst of all: gravity.

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DeezerShoove » 25 Jan 2023, 11:34 am » wrote: Once you learn about that little free swinging push-rod, it's a little easier.
One less thing to fight with.
Getting that upper hooked into the lower is a mother ****, though.
Mine has hammer marks because I got so frustrated...  Image
Yes, I've done this enough times to know there's a trick to it.  Here's the trick - DON'T TAKE THE F-ING THING APART IF AS LONG AS IT WORKS.

Getting that lever-rod thing back into the upper receiver and clamped into the grip frame is only one tricky part to this gun.  If you can't handle that part, then you will be screwed with a complete takedown.  You should just trade it in for a pair of sneakers at the next gun-grab.
 

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Huey » 25 Jan 2023, 10:19 am » wrote: FIrearms have been accessible for many years in the quantity available now.  So what has changed?  What bad decision?
The bad decisions were made by the Supreme Court decades ago.  But every year there are MORE guns in circulation, so the threat increases proportionately.

Just as there were zero car accidents in 1885, because there were zero automobiles.
And as soon as there were automobiles, every year the likelihood of accidents occurring increased.
Are you so utterly DENSE, Hey,that you cannot perceive this?

And of course the silly propaganda about how more guns would reduce the number of shootings also made sense to stupid people,who thought shooting was fun and went out and bought guns. And the more they heard that guns created the problem, many bought even MORE guns.

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Skans » 25 Jan 2023, 11:39 am » wrote: Yes, I've done this enough times to know there's a trick to it.  Here's the trick - DON'T TAKE THE F-ING THING APART IF AS LONG AS IT WORKS.

Getting that lever-rod thing back into the upper receiver and clamped into the grip frame is only one tricky part to this gun.  If you can't handle that part, then you will be screwed with a complete takedown.  You should just trade it in for a pair of sneakers at the next gun-grab.
You can always heat it with a propane torch and hand it to the bad guy.
That'll lern 'im.

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DeezerShoove » 25 Jan 2023, 11:42 am » wrote: You can always heat it with a propane torch and hand it to the bad guy.
That'll lern 'im.
Ehhh, I think I'll pass on that.  Here's the part that gave me fits on my Mark II:  You see the crud built up on that plunger - there's a spring to go with that (not shown) too.  It caused the trigger not to engage the sear.   Yes, the Mark II is an accurate design.  Yes, it's also an infuriating thing to maintain.  I'd like to get rid of it and get a Smith Model 41.

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Xavier_Onassis » 25 Jan 2023, 11:41 am » wrote: The bad decisions were made by the Supreme Court decades ago.  But every year there are MORE guns in circulation, so the threat increases proportionately.

Just as there were zero car accidents in 1885, because there were zero automobiles.
And as soon as there were automobiles, every year the likelihood of accidents occurring increased.
Are you so utterly DENSE, Hey,that you cannot perceive this?

And of course the silly propaganda about how more guns would reduce the number of shootings also made sense to stupid people,who thought shooting was fun and went out and bought guns. And the more they heard that guns created the problem, many bought even MORE guns.
It's all the fault of the illegal aliens.  We need to ban illegal aliens from this country and incarcerate criminals like we did in the 1980's.  Then we should take a few decades to re-assess the situation before enacting any more gun laws.
 

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Xavier_Onassis » 25 Jan 2023, 11:41 am » wrote: The bad decisions were made by the Supreme Court decades ago.  But every year there are MORE guns in circulation, so the threat increases proportionately.

Just as there were zero car accidents in 1885, because there were zero automobiles.
And as soon as there were automobiles, every year the likelihood of accidents occurring increased.
Are you so utterly DENSE, Hey,that you cannot perceive this?

And of course the silly propaganda about how more guns would reduce the number of shootings also made sense to stupid people,who thought shooting was fun and went out and bought guns. And the more they heard that guns created the problem, many bought even MORE guns.

It ain't the guns.  There is an estimated 400 million firearms in this country.  I am not talking about the 1800s.  What a dense counter argument.  

The share of American households owning at least one firearm has remained relatively steady since 1972, hovering between 37 percent and 47 percent. In 2022, about 45 percent of U.S. households had at least one gun in their possession.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/249 ... a-firearm/

There are probably more because many gun owners won't honestly answer.  

The problem IS NOT the guns. Something has gone wrong with our culture.  We also need to look at gun laws concerning purchasing one. 

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Xavier_Onassis said: The more guns are in circulation, the more people will get shot.

When there were no guns, no one ever got shot. Note that Jesus had nothing to say about firearms.

So,it follows that
The fewer guns are in circulation, the fewer people will get shot.
Why yes,I agree, this is also a cultural problem. One of many our culture is afflicted with.
And yes, there are people that should never be allowed to own a gun.

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ConsRule said: When I was in high school (back before dirt was invented) in a somewhat small Texas town...about 1,300 students grades 10-12, the student parking lot was 90% pickup trucks. Probably half those trucks had gun racks with at least one rifle/shotgun. I knew several students that had one in a case behind their seats. There were ZERO shooting. Liberals don't want to admit it, but a gun typically doesn't shoot all by itself...regardless of what Baldwin says.

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Skans » 25 Jan 2023, 11:49 am » wrote: Ehhh, I think I'll pass on that.  Here's the part that gave me fits on my Mark II:  You see the crud built up on that plunger - there's a spring to go with that (not shown) too.  It caused the trigger not to engage the sear.   Yes, the Mark II is an accurate design.  Yes, it's also an infuriating thing to maintain.  I'd like to get rid of it and get a Smith Model 41.


 
There is a "trick" to breaking in a handgun. Probably a rifle too if you use a big enough tub...
The trick supposedly to breaking in, smoothing out the mechanism, clearing any chips left from machining and break-in rub, etc. is this:

Hold it submerged in kerosene and **** it, dry fire it. Repeat over and over.

Wonder if that would "clean" a filthy, gummy Mark II ?
I have never tried this dry fire thing. I read it in a magazine... that's better than the internet, right?  :wave:  

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Skans said:
DeezerShoove » 25 Jan 2023, 3:46 pm » wrote: There is a "trick" to breaking in a handgun. Probably a rifle too if you use a big enough tub...
The trick supposedly to breaking in, smoothing out the mechanism, clearing any chips left from machining and break-in rub, etc. is this:

Hold it submerged in kerosene and **** it, dry fire it. Repeat over and over.

Wonder if that would "clean" a filthy, gummy Mark II ?
I have never tried this dry fire thing. I read it in a magazine... that's better than the internet, right?  Image
It wouldn't clean it.  The grit, dirt and oil get trapped. I tried spraying the entire thing down with WWD-40, nothing.  Not until I tool the very last part out of the frame did I discover the problem.  22lr guns get dirty.  You need to be able to clean them easier than what it takes to do the Mark II. I used to think it was the coolest 22 out there.  It's accurate enough.  Reliable too when clean.  But, a *******-and-a-half to take down, clean and put back together.   Almost as if NONE of the parts need to be cleaned, except that stupid trigger plunger I couldn't get to until all the parts are out.  The only other semi-auto I found more difficult to take apart and put back together was an old H&R Self-Loader. Image
 

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Skans » 25 Jan 2023, 4:21 pm » wrote: It wouldn't clean it.  The grit, dirt and oil get trapped. I tried spraying the entire thing down with WWD-40, nothing.  Not until I tool the very last part out of the frame did I discover the problem.  22lr guns get dirty.  You need to be able to clean them easier than what it takes to do the Mark II. I used to think it was the coolest 22 out there.  It's accurate enough.  Reliable too when clean.  But, a *******-and-a-half to take down, clean and put back together.   Almost as if NONE of the parts need to be cleaned, except that stupid trigger plunger I couldn't get to until all the parts are out.  The only other semi-auto I found more difficult to take apart and put back together was an old H&R Self-Loader. 
Quit using cheap ammo... It's all your fault.

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DeezerShoove » 25 Jan 2023, 4:52 pm » wrote: Quit using cheap ammo... It's all your fault.
LOL!  What's the point of having an all stainless .22lr pistol if I can't shoot cheap .22 ammo out of it?  If I want to shoot expensive ammo that can shred flesh and break engine blocks, I'll shoot my 308 bullpup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgIPtHFf5tQ
 

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Xavier_Onassis said: Shooting an engine block does not seem to be an effective way to get rid of a Yamaha engine block.
Repeated shots did not cause the unwanted thing to vanish, just as I expected.
The possibility might exist that a bullet might ricochet, harming the brave shooter.
I suspect that each shot cost at least a dollar.
 

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