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[Annoyed Liberall]

What I believe and what I can prove are two different things. Like you, I acknowledge this.

Assuming that there is a realm where our souls go after we die, then our ability to observe this in this realm is beyond our grasp.  Therefore, I do not believe that people can see spirits or auras.  Either they are observable or they are not.  I don't believe that it can be both (I can't prove this either).  Further, if spirits and souls exist, then then their nature and  essence is purposely kept from us here.  So, it is no use to try and interact with them in this realm.
 

I can understand why you feel that way.
But, I can promise you that their essence is not kept from us here.
Our own essence (soul) is not kept from us on this realm either.
There are many things that cannot be explained.
Deja Vu is one. Some say that is a look into another reality or parallel life.
I don't know.
I do get it often, but I can't say what it means.
I can see auras with my physical eyes, and my 3rd eye.
I 'see' spirits almost entirely with my 3rd eye.
It's not like it's portrayed in tv and movies.
Have you never had a paranormal experience?

[Annoyed Liberall]

your sarcasm registered along with your subtle attempt to caricaturize me as antisocial. I simple explain why every reality fails and you won't change your mind.

why would I change my mind when I can't even understand what you are saying?
Do you know what reality is?
Do you think that phone or computer you are typing on even exists?
Do you think time exists?
What happened to the past?
Where is the future?
None of that exists anymore either.

[Nostradamus' omh]

why would I change my mind when I can't even understand what you are saying?
Do you know what reality is?
Do you think that phone or computer you are typing on even exists?
Do you think time exists?
What happened to the past?
Where is the future?
None of that exists anymore either.

Your brain was conceived to navigate space living eternally separated in your own skin same way your ancestry did before you were conceived to replace the lineage forward now.

does that ring any bells about how corrupted your reality remains in plain sight?

Evolving is an ever changing total sum process specifically timing the universe perpetually balancing between 5 races and 5 generation gaps here now with 8 billion sole displacements present adapting in space sharing the moment here in series parallel energy flow between erosion and decomposing results specifically everything taking place everywhere.

[Annoyed Liberall]

Your brain was conceived to navigate space living eternally separated in your own skin same way your ancestry did before you were conceived to replace the lineage forward now.

does that ring any bells about how corrupted your reality remains in plain sight?

Evolving is an ever changing total sum process specifically timing the universe perpetually balancing between 5 races and 5 generation gaps here now with 8 billion sole displacements present adapting in space sharing the moment here in series parallel energy flow between erosion and decomposing results specifically everything taking place everywhere.

Ok

[Nostradamus' omh]

Ok

Damn, those two letters read, you agree to disagree until extinction. one hell of a compromise. I surrender or else.

[Skans]

I can understand why you feel that way.
But, I can promise you that their essence is not kept from us here.
Our own essence (soul) is not kept from us on this realm either.
There are many things that cannot be explained.
Deja Vu is one. Some say that is a look into another reality or parallel life.
I don't know.
I do get it often, but I can't say what it means.
I can see auras with my physical eyes, and my 3rd eye.
I 'see' spirits almost entirely with my 3rd eye.
It's not like it's portrayed in tv and movies.
Have you never had a paranormal experience?

I honestly believe I've never had a paranormal experience, or at least not that I could recognize, or maybe I just didn't want to recognize.  My first house was a murder-suicide house.  Husband shot his wife and then killed himself. He must have missed at least once, because I could see where the bullet passed through several sheets of drywall and was patched and repainted.

Anyway, I half-way expected to seem some spirits, at least for a little while before they got bored with me. None.  It was actually a nice little house.
 
 
 

[Annoyed Liberall]

I honestly believe I've never had a paranormal experience, or at least not that I could recognize, or maybe I just didn't want to recognize.  My first house was a murder-suicide house.  Husband shot his wife and then killed himself. He must have missed at least once, because I could see where the bullet passed through several sheets of drywall and was patched and repainted.

Anyway, I half-way expected to seem some spirits, at least for a little while before they got bored with me. None.  It was actually a nice little house.

Most 'hauntings' are just residual energy left behind.
In the case of your house, I would expect if there was anything at all, it would be electrical issues or things falling.
That's why most hauntings occur in hospitals, hotels, nursing homes, funeral homes, etc. Because people in those locations are in high stress situations.
The energy bleeds off and sticks around. It's not an intelligent haunting. It's simply energy.
In the case of spirits that actively try to get your attention, those are mostly transitioned souls who want to share a message with someone left behind.
Souls will find the path of least resistance. Mostly they will leave signs such as a song on the radio, visit in dreams, coins, feathers, animals, etc.
They may also find a medium. That's tough work for a spirit. I honestly believe that after a short amount of time, transitioned souls stop worrying about what is happening here. They have things to do on the other side. Time passes differently there. A year here is probably only a few minutes over there.
Of course I can't prove that either.

[Annoyed Liberall]

Damn, those two letters read, you agree to disagree until extinction. one hell of a compromise. I surrender or else.

No. Those two letters read 'you have your beliefs, and I have mine'. I choose to stop engaging with someone who is trying to bully and manipulate me into agreement. You only need to surrender to your life's circumstances. That surrender has nothing to do with me, and I am not interested in your agreement or argument.

[Nostradamus' omh]

Most 'hauntings' are just residual energy left behind.
In the case of your house, I would expect if there was anything at all, it would be electrical issues or things falling.
That's why most hauntings occur in hospitals, hotels, nursing homes, funeral homes, etc. Because people in those locations are in high stress situations.
The energy bleeds off and sticks around. It's not an intelligent haunting. It's simply energy.
In the case of spirits that actively try to get your attention, those are mostly transitioned souls who want to share a message with someone left behind.
Souls will find the path of least resistance. Mostly they will leave signs such as a song on the radio, visit in dreams, coins, feathers, animals, etc.
They may also find a medium. That's tough work for a spirit. I honestly believe that after a short amount of time, transitioned souls stop worrying about what is happening here. They have things to do on the other side. Time passes differently there. A year here is probably only a few minutes over there.
Of course I can't prove that either.

What separates contextual intellectual soul from a sole surviving ancestor adapting in the moment here? Vocabulary.

[Nostradamus' omh]

No. Those two letters read 'you have your beliefs, and I have mine'. I choose to stop engaging with someone who is trying to bully and manipulate me into agreement. You only need to surrender to your life's circumstances. That surrender has nothing to do with me, and I am not interested in your agreement or argument.

Beliefs are shared social consensus between generation gaps transferred ancestrally forward for generation gaps added. Instinctive understanding of the situation with evolving forward one at a time is genetic installed in each brain born, not the minds of people wishing they were anything other than displaced as eternally separated now.

Intellectual character role player vs individual characteristics since conceived. I account for occupying time by the latter. You obviously recite the prior as all you wished true and damn anyone for debunking the consensus shared by millions of people never accepting how evolving happens in plain sight historically left here evolving now.

[MackTheFinger]

Anyone with even a fleeting comprehension of 20th century history understands that a mighty purge is coming - a reckoning. Its unavoidable.

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Bob Dylan:  If the bible is right, the world will explode....
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14 dollars, points or whatever the sakta is...for your post...you sure got a lot of cheese eaters in your posse.
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[Nostradamus' omh]

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Bob Dylan:  If the bible is right, the world will explode....
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14 dollars, points or whatever the sakta is...for your post...you sure got a lot of cheese eaters in your posse.
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So, if the Bible is wrong, this planet implodes within itself.
3 generations gaps where the third to arrive replaces the 6 lifetimes added each grandchild replacing the previous 2 generation gaps existed so far.
Add a 4th generation and each great grandchild replaces 14 ancestors.

along comes a 5th generation each great great grandchild replaces 30.
Add a 6th generation gap and the arriving great great grandchild replaces 62.

never another great great grandchild added again, the ancestral lineages simply disappear.

Where is there any need for intellectual supervision by a higher power than instinctively aware of one's time living eternally separated now. Maintaining reasonable doubt forward here.

[MackTheFinger]

Where is there any need for intellectual supervision by a higher power than instinctively aware of one's time living eternally separated now. Maintaining reasonable doubt forward here.=15px.

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I can go word for word with you in the Insanity Factory that on the outskirt of the town called Arla (a galic word) where they use to make prison shoes and half the town worked there at union wages but the company still had the town council in it pocket to do their bidding when necessary; but it would be fruitless to say the open secret never happened and of course the free press was in on to.

However my time on the Planet Earth is getting shorter and shorter....which is why I go to Bobby so much.  Just once could you make a cognitive argument instead of your usual word tour of people I could care less about and unproveable theories ?

My Great Grandfather had a bar illegally seized in Liverpool because it was a center for Irish Nationalist to drink beer.  If a Lawyer called me and said we can file a lawsuit...I would say: **** you ambulance chaser....I could give a **** less !  Of course I could use the money but I am happy with the little I have because I worked to get it and that is the world I belong in.

My bills are paid and there is food in the icebox....so FK you and your ten to the ninth power grand father.
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[Skans]

Most 'hauntings' are just residual energy left behind.
In the case of your house, I would expect if there was anything at all, it would be electrical issues or things falling.
That's why most hauntings occur in hospitals, hotels, nursing homes, funeral homes, etc. Because people in those locations are in high stress situations.
The energy bleeds off and sticks around. It's not an intelligent haunting. It's simply energy.
In the case of spirits that actively try to get your attention, those are mostly transitioned souls who want to share a message with someone left behind.
Souls will find the path of least resistance. Mostly they will leave signs such as a song on the radio, visit in dreams, coins, feathers, animals, etc.
They may also find a medium. That's tough work for a spirit. I honestly believe that after a short amount of time, transitioned souls stop worrying about what is happening here. They have things to do on the other side. Time passes differently there. A year here is probably only a few minutes over there.
Of course I can't prove that either.

I will reveal this to you.  But, before I do, I'm going to say I don't believe any "spirit" has ever visited me.  Just my imagination which can be logically explained by the circumstances.  I'll be very brief and leave out details no one cares about - this has to do with my time living in the murder-suicide house:

• I was alone in the house, sleeping. I woke up from my sleep and thought I felt the murdered woman touch me and thought I saw her image.  I got up, walked around, cleared my head - I don't believe it ever happened again.  Was probably dreaming or in some kind of dream state. 
• Another time, I was alone in the house sleeping.  I was awoken by a loud noise of of a door slamming, but multiple times. I got up, grabbed my gun and started to search the house from back to front.  When I could see the front door, it was partially open. Then, I saw a cat (one that hangs around the house sometimes) using its paw to try and shut the door.  The cat was sitting in my living room and kept hitting the door.  Well, that answered what the noise was.  Somehow the cat got inside the house (maybe I didn't shut the door tight enough?) and didn't seem to want to leave.  I had to shoo the cat out. 
• One other time.  Same cat, but in the front yard.  It was caterwauling, looked and sounded like arguing, with another cat - a black cat.  They faced off with one another and I swear it looked and sounded like people taking turns arguing with one another, but in cat language. This went on for about 10 minutes.  Then, the black cat ran off.  The gray cat liked to sometimes sleep outside of the house, under the roof eves in the landscaping.  I rarely ever saw the black cat. Yes, I believe the gray cat was female.

 
 

[MackTheFinger]

Just my imagination which can be logically explained by the circumstances.

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What would believe if your imagination told it was a spirit that controls all of your circumstances ?
 

[Skans]

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What would believe if your imagination told it was a spirit that controls all of your circumstances ?

While I do like to indulge my imagination allowing it to venture off into the strange catacombs of my mind, I don't take much direction from it.
 

[Nostradamus' omh]

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I can go word for word with you in the Insanity Factory that on the outskirt of the town called Arla (a galic word) where they use to make prison shoes and half the town worked there at union wages but the company still had the town council in it pocket to do their bidding when necessary; but it would be fruitless to say the open secret never happened and of course the free press was in on to.

However my time on the Planet Earth is getting shorter and shorter....which is why I go to Bobby so much.  Just once could you make a cognitive argument instead of your usual word tour of people I could care less about and unproveable theories ?

My Great Grandfather had a bar illegally seized in Liverpool because it was a center for Irish Nationalist to drink beer.  If a Lawyer called me and said we can file a lawsuit...I would say: **** you ambulance chaser....I could give a **** less !  Of course I could use the money but I am happy with the little I have because I worked to get it and that is the world I belong in.

My bills are paid and there is food in the icebox....so FK you and your ten to the ninth power grand father.
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You factually define a world order of make believe your time isn't your time but some intellectual entity's choices of how you must behave by the consent of people misdirected throughout history.

Actual time evolving has one world order, balance between extremes polarities pulling from every angle pushing in any direction away from being here one at a time.

Pick a side and only two sides are involved in any debate trying to eliminate the 4 other competitors to stay alive now.
So which two sides are you on? child to parents, parents to grandparents, grandparents to great grandparents, great grandparents to great great grandparents time existing.

when an ancestor added a generation gap they became ancestry to last arrived until they die. Get the compounding factor every reality doesn't include in their social order of saving tomorrows as living doesn't exceed being alive today.

Don't fall intellectual prey paying others to manage your time adapting in the moment here. Trickle down economics is used against the last generation every generation forward.

I sacrifice 25% of my time lived to supporting all realities with economic theory. I respect ancestors until they tell me I cannot understand direct proportion evolving living directly proportionately alive as part of the whole is equal to total sum of all its parts in series parallel time displaced here now.

I won't forgive, and I constantly forget which sides screwed me last because every reality screws me over 24/7. But societal evolution made living easier cradle to grave not more simple than just adapting to space here now in my physical absolute time here.

Serenity isn't established defending reasonable doubts every rotation of the planet. Pick the battle strategy that equalizes life never same results again.

that keeps you at the core of everyone defying now is eternity. Nothing to prove and reason never give up biological time to people insisting life exceeds their time adapting here now.

A fool believes, an ancestor simply adapts between the fools around them.

[Sumela]

My coffin speaks to me every day...


It is calling me....I also hear my whore mom's voice....



 
 

[Sumela]

You factually define a world order of make believe your time isn't your time but some intellectual entity's choices of how you must behave by the consent of people misdirected throughout history.

Actual time evolving has one world order, balance between extremes polarities pulling from every angle pushing in any direction away from being here one at a time.

Pick a side and only two sides are involved in any debate trying to eliminate the 4 other competitors to stay alive now.
So which two sides are you on? child to parents, parents to grandparents, grandparents to great grandparents, great grandparents to great great grandparents time existing.

when an ancestor added a generation gap they became ancestry to last arrived until they die. Get the compounding factor every reality doesn't include in their social order of saving tomorrows as living doesn't exceed being alive today.

Don't fall intellectual prey paying others to manage your time adapting in the moment here. Trickle down economics is used against the last generation every generation forward.

I sacrifice 25% of my time lived to supporting all realities with economic theory. I respect ancestors until they tell me I cannot understand direct proportion evolving living directly proportionately alive as part of the whole is equal to total sum of all its parts in series parallel time displaced here now.

I won't forgive, and I constantly forget which sides screwed me last because every reality screws me over 24/7. But societal evolution made living easier cradle to grave not more simple than just adapting to space here now in my physical absolute time here.

Serenity isn't established defending reasonable doubts every rotation of the planet. Pick the battle strategy that equalizes life never same results again.

that keeps you at the core of everyone defying now is eternity. Nothing to prove and reason never give up biological time to people insisting life exceeds their time adapting here now.

A fool believes, an ancestor simply adapts between the fools around them.

 
 

[Nostradamus' omh]

 
 

another selffie. Your ideology is still debunked regardless you accept it or not.