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duck615 » 22 Jul 2020, 1:02 pm » wrote: Don't riot you will be fine.
The Moms were not rioting and neither was this guy.

https://twitter.com/PDXzane/status/1284 ... 10080?s=19
 
Trumpty Dumpty's goons who are inciting more rioting.
When people are protesting police brutality the last thing you should do is send in people to brutalize them.
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Misty » 22 Jul 2020, 1:11 pm » wrote: The Moms were not rioting and neither was this guy.

https://twitter.com/PDXzane/status/1284 ... 10080?s=19
 
Trumpty Dumpty's goons who are inciting more rioting.
When people are protesting police brutality the last thing you should do is send in people to brutalize them.

No moms were hurt or arrested.
They were 'peacefully protesting'.  That is cool.   They were not throwing bricks
and frozen water bottles at the PO-PO.  They were not looting and burning police cars.

Why were they protesting?  I don't know.  Did they have a list of demands?  I am
curious to know their position.   Maybe we could work something out to make 
everyone happy.

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A new Trump campaign ad depicting a police officer being attacked by protesters is actually a 2014 photo of pro-democracy protests in Ukraine.
President Donald Trump's reelection campaign released a new Facebook ad with an image of a group of protesters attacking a police officer alongside the words "public safety vs chaos & violence."

But that photo is actually from a pro-democracy protest in Kyiv, Ukraine, in 2014. The photographer, Mstyslav Chernov, confirmed to Business Insider that it is his photo from six years ago.

Trump has sent federal law-enforcement officers to quell protests in Portland, Oregon, and threatened to send more to other cities led by Democrats.

The Trump campaign has seized on the protests in the US as a key campaign issue. Chad Wolf, the acting secretary of homeland security, has described the Portland protesters as "violent anarchists."

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Taipan » 22 Jul 2020, 4:55 pm » wrote:
Misty » 22 Jul 2020, 1:11 pm » wrote: The Moms were not rioting and neither was this guy.

https://twitter.com/PDXzane/status/1284 ... 10080?s=19
 
Trumpty Dumpty's goons who are inciting more rioting.
When people are protesting police brutality the last thing you should do is send in people to brutalize them.
No moms were hurt or arrested.
They were tear gassed and hit with batons.
And one of them, a lawyer named Jennifer Kristiansen, was arrested. 
She said they put her in a holding cell and never read her her rights.

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Taipan » 22 Jul 2020, 4:55 pm » wrote: They were 'peacefully protesting'.  That is cool.   They were not throwing bricks
and frozen water bottles at the PO-PO.  They were not looting and burning police cars.

Why were they protesting?  I don't know.  Did they have a list of demands?  I am
curious to know their position.   Maybe we could work something out to make 
everyone happy.
The Moms were forming a human shield to protect the peaceful protesters that are being teargassed, flash-banged and beaten with batons by Trump's goons.
 
 
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That time when Trumpty Dumpty wished an accused sex trafficker well.
Asked during his first White House coronavirus press briefing since April about the Ms Maxwell's alleged role in the sex trafficking conspiracy, the president said he knew her from their time in Palm Beach, Florida, and that they've met "numerous times."
A reporter asked the president whether he believed Maxwell was going to "turn in powerful men" as she faces trial.
"I don't know, I haven't really been following it too much," he said.

"I just wish her well, frankly.

I've met her numerous times over the years, especially since I lived in Palm Beach and I guess they lived in Palm Beach.

But I wish her well, whatever it is.

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Housewives? 
Make America 1950 again.



Is he going to preserve the neighborhoods of 'housewives' by sending his jack-booted thugs to arrest them?

 
 
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Termin8tor » 24 Jul 2020, 11:40 am » wrote:
Misty » 22 Jul 2020, 1:11 pm » wrote: The Moms were not rioting
Fox showed videos of them vandalizing a federal building, wackjob.
First of all I wouldn't believe you if you told me that water was wet.
And secondly 'vandalizing' is not the same as 'rioting.'
Termin8tor » 24 Jul 2020, 11:40 am » wrote: They must have faked them.
Wouldn't be the first time.  
Termin8tor » 24 Jul 2020, 11:40 am » wrote: Not to mention they intentionally protecting the rioters, duuuh!
First you conflated vandals with rioters and now you are conflating protesters with rioters.
They were protecting the protesters, not rioters.
Termin8tor » 24 Jul 2020, 11:40 am » wrote: Why are you calling federal officers enforcing federal law "goons," psycho?
Because that's what they are.

Wake up and smell the coffee you pinhead.
This is all about politics.
It's a **** show.
This LAW AND ORDER **** is right out of Nixon's playbook.
The protests in Portland were winding down.
Trump's goons have only exacerbated the situation.
 
 
 
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Is Trump using private mercenaries against American citizens?



 The Lead Federal Agency Responding to Protesters in Portland Employs Thousands of Private Contractors

The Trump administration’s deployment of federal law enforcers in Portland, Oregon, as part of a supposed effort to protect government property has prompted at least two lawsuits alleging that their show of force has resulted in abuses of authority and the unnecessary use of violence against peaceful protesters, journalists and observers.

What has not been reported widely in the media, however, is the fact that the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) unit that is coordinating the “crowd control” effort — an agency called the Federal Protective Service (FPS) — is composed largely of contract security personnel.

Those contractors are being furnished to FPS by major private-sector security companies like Blackwater corporate descendant Triple Canopy as well as dozens of other private security firms.

In fact, FPS spends more than $1 billion a year on these contract security guards who are authorized to conduct crowd control at federal properties, such as those in Portland.

And, based on available photographic and document evidence, it appears those private contractors are now part of the federal force arrayed in Portland and are likely to be part of the federal response President Trump has promised to stand up in multiple other cities, including Chicago, Detroit, New York, Philadelphia and other urban centers led by Democratic mayors across the country.

There are some 13,000 security guards nationwide employed by FPS via contracts with private security firms, a figure that can be expanded through existing and future contracts.

Via contracts with FPS, more than 50 private security firms provide guards — referred to as protective security officers (PSOs) — to the agency in the Washington, D.C., area alone.

Among the responsibilities of these contract guards is to assist federal law enforcers with crowd control at federal properties as needed.

“The most difficult tasks PSOs are called upon to perform include standing for prolonged periods of time and interacting with large volumes of people,” states a past interagency agreement involving FPS, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and the U.S. Office of Personnel Management.

“Other demanding, but less frequent, tasks include responding to medical emergencies, performing CPR, and performing crowd control [such as is occurring in Portland in recent weeks].

”There is a major problem, however, with using these FPS contract guards — who are supposed to be limited to patrolling and securing federal facilities and grounds — in long-running “civil disturbances” like those unfolding now in Portland, and elsewhere around the country.

The FPS has a long history of failing to properly vet and adequately monitor and ensure that these guards have proper training and certifications, including proper firearms training.

That lack of training can pose a great risk to the safety of protesters and the law enforcers they work with alike should a situation become heated.

As outlined in a prior story on Medium, U.S. Government Accountability Office reports published between 2009 and 2014 on the FPS security guard program have uncovered guards with felony convictions; a large percentage of guard files examined with at least one expired certification, including a declaration they have not been convicted of domestic violence; and multiple security-guard files that were missing documentation on weapons training and security clearances, among other issues.

The role that these private contractors are playing in current crowd-control efforts in Portland, and the role they will play going forward if Trump does expand the federal intervention to other cities across the nation, is best described as opaque — seemingly on purpose.

The danger, however, is that Trump and his attorney general, William Barr, will expand this private contractor force in extending the reach of the federal response to recent civil rights protests — creating what is essentially a national paramilitary police force.

One former U.S. Secret Service officer who was assigned to the White House raised an alarm when questioned about that prospect.

“This concerns me, as FPS officers train with us at the federal law-enforcement training center in Glynco, Georgia,” the former Secret Service officer said, asking that his name not be used.

“I can assure you that a contract officer isn’t law-enforcement certified. …

This sounds very shady, and it sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen.

”Well, in fact, at least two lawsuits are now in motion, one filed by the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) Foundation of Oregon and the other by the Oregon Attorney General’s Office, with both lawsuits alleging the federal response in Portland is violating the constitutional rights of U.S. citizens participating in legitimate, First Amendment-protected protests.

“The American Civil Liberties Union Foundation of Oregon today sued the Department of Homeland Security and U.S. Marshals Service, which have deployed federal agents to Portland, Oregon,” a press statement released by the ACLU states.

“These agents, which have been deployed over the widespread objections of local leaders and community members, have been indiscriminately using tear gas, rubber bullets, and acoustic weapons against protestersjournalists, and legal observers.

“Federal officers also shot a protester in the head … with a rubber bullet, fracturing the person’s face and skull.

”The lawsuit filed this month by the Oregon’s Attorney General likewise accuses the federal crowd-control force — clad in riot gear and camouflage uniforms — of overstepping its legal authority.

“Oregon Attorney General Ellen Rosenblum this evening will file a lawsuit in federal court against the United States Department of Homeland Security, the United States Marshals Service, the United States Customs and Border Protection (CPB), the Federal Protection Service and their agents alleging they have engaged in unlawful law enforcement in violation of the civil rights of Oregonians by seizing and detaining them without probable cause,” the Oregon Department of Justice said in announcing the litigation.

What has not been addressed yet in this case is the unique legal and constitutional challenges posed by deploying a federal force against U.S. citizens that is composed of a mix of government agents and private contractors, including CPB’s Special Response Team [SRT], U.S. Marshals and DHS police — specifically the FPS, which is overseeing the effort and employs thousands of contract security personnel.

“The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and its components will continue to work tirelessly to reestablish law and order,” CBP said in a press statement related to the federal response in Portland.

“The Federal Protective Service (FPS) is the lead government agency that CBP personnel are supporting.

CBP personnel have been deployed to Portland in direct support of the Presidential Executive Order and the newly established DHS Protecting American Communities Task Force (PACT).

“So, what evidence exists that private contractors working for FPS are actively engaged with federal agents in using physical force against protesters in Portland?

For one, that is part of their responsibility as FPS officers.

“As symbols of government, federal facilities are often the place where citizens congregate to express their concerns about an issue, often in the form of mass demonstrations or protests,” DHS’ website says in describing FPS.

“When this happens, FPS law enforcement officers are on-site to ensure that all citizens can express themselves in a safe and peaceful manner.

When demonstrations start to become violent against others, or disruptive to government operations, FPS officers will step in to regain the peace.

”A manual for security guards produced by FPS includes an entire chapter on handling “civil disturbances,” such as the protests now occurring across the nation over racial injustice — sparked by the police killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis on May 25.

“You may be required to take actions to control crowds during civil disturbances,” states the FPS private-contractor manual, published in 2008 and marked “For Official Use Only.”

“You also may be required to assist law enforcement personnel during such situations.”

Photographic evidence from the protests in Portland also shows that FPS personnel are deployed in Portland as part of the federal crowd-control force.

Some have described this federal force as a “secret police” unit because many of the federal police are clad in camouflage with no name tags and are extremely difficult to identify.

Photographs taken by an ACLU observer (Doug Brown) demonstrate how the uniforms of this opaque federal force are creating unnecessary confusion.

The photos also raise concerns over whether some of the FPS personnel involved in the Portland response are, in fact, contract security personnel.


In the two ACLU photos displayed here, it is clear that in one shot [above] the group of law enforcers — with arm patches emblazoned with the letters SRT — is part of CPB’s Special Response Team.

The other photo [below], however, shows uniformed FPS officers standing next to an individual in camouflage who also has an FPS shoulder patch.

Why are they dressed differently and how can anyone reasonably tell if those are private security contractors employed by FPS or members of the much smaller cadre of government agents, some 1,000 nationwide, employed by FPS?


 And, if this federal tactical team is going to be deployed in multiple cities across the nation in the coming weeks, as Trump has threatened, how can that be accomplished without relying on FPS contract security personnel?

Given FPS contract guards are expected to assist with crowd control, it’s reasonable to assume they are in this case as well.

In addition to Triple Canopy, another security firm FPS works with is Paragon Systems Inc., which in 2013, for example, inked a deal with FPS to provide security guards for federal owned and leased properties in Ohio that had a total contract ceiling of $93.4 million.

Within the past month, Paragon ran an online advertisement seeking to hire security guards for FPS to provide “proactive patrols of DOJ property” at an undisclosed location or locations.

A similar recent job-opening advertisement from Triple Canopy notes that contractors it is seeking to hire for an FPS post “must be able to wear protective body armor as part of the duty uniform.”

 

FPS spokesperson Robert Sperling responded to questions about the role FPS contract guards are playing in controlling crowds at recent protests by saying simply: “The Federal Protective Service protective security officers are manning their posts and do not have authority or jurisdiction beyond federal property.”

The use of contract security personnel in actions targeting U.S. citizens raises serious questions about the future of policing accountability in America.

The privatization of policing is a lucrative business, with numerous private security firms already taking in hundreds of millions of dollars annually from contracts with FPS — not to mention the privatization of prisons that has long been in effect.

It seems determining the precise role private contractors are playing in using force against protesters, journalists and observers in Portland, and the role planned for them in other major urban centers in the weeks ahead, is fertile ground for congressional inquiry and legislation that will establish some firm bumpers for controlling the use and spread of this practice.

A former supervisory DHS agent interviewed for this story lays out the dangers of ignoring this issue: “Before I left [DHS], I attended meetings about creating the private prisons.

I was against it because of the lack of oversight,” states the former supervisory DHS official, who also asked not to be named.

“Those meetings were used also to recruit like-minded personnel for high six-figure salaries after retirement [from their jobs as federal employees]. I was not invited back.

“… Outsourcing [to private contractors] is the way to protect your actual mission,” the former DHS agent says.

“Layering [mixing federal agents in with contractors] provides plausible deniability.

Jurisdiction and authority are given by the attorney general [in this case, William Barr].

“They can also use the authority of another agency [i.e., FPS] by being next to them (implied authority) ….

Finding thugs is not a problem.

Remember, they used mercenaries to capture [DEA agent] Kiki Camarena’s torturers [in Mexico].”

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Judge Orders Michael Cohen Released, Citing ‘Retaliation’ Over Tell-All Book

When Michael D. Cohen, President Trump’s one-time lawyer and fixer, met with probation officers this month to complete paperwork that would have let him serve the balance of his prison term at home, he found a catch.

Mr. Cohen was already out on furlough because of the coronavirus.

But to remain at home, he was asked to sign a document that would have barred him from publishing a book during the rest of his sentence.

Mr. Cohen balked because he was, in fact, writing a book — a tell-all memoir about his former boss, the president.

The officers sent him back to prison.

On Thursday, a federal judge ruled that the decision to return Mr. Cohen to custody amounted to retaliation by the government and ordered him to be released again into home confinement. Mr. Cohen is expected back in his Manhattan apartment on Friday.

“I make the finding that the purpose of transferring Mr. Cohen from furlough and home confinement to jail is retaliatory,” the judge, Alvin K. Hellerstein of Federal District Court in Manhattan, said in court.

“And it’s retaliatory because of his desire to exercise his First Amendment rights to publish a book and to discuss anything about the book or anything else he wants on social media and with others.”

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Termin8tor » 24 Jul 2020, 12:22 pm » wrote:
Misty » 24 Jul 2020, 11:52 am » wrote: Wake up and smell the coffee you pinhead.
This is all about politics.
It's a **** show.
This LAW AND ORDER **** is right out of Nixon's playbook.
The protests in Portland were winding down.
Trump's goons have only exacerbated the situation.
Trump is obligated by federal law to protect federal property.

But to the degree there's show to it, it's better than the one put on by Clueless Basement Joe.
Basement Joe.
ROFL.
Trumplican talking point lie.
 
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Termin8tor » 24 Jul 2020, 12:21 pm » wrote: Oh my gosh, rioters and vandals who attack federal buildings might be arrested?
Horrors!  
Here's a hint, psycho. Trump is obligated by federal law to do this.
Here's a hint psycho.
Protecting federal buildings does not include shooting peaceful protesters in the face or beating a Navy veteran who was not attacking anything, or scooping peaceful protesters up and whisking them away in unmarked cars.
 
 
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Misty » 24 Jul 2020, 12:43 pm » wrote: Here's a hint psycho.
Protecting federal buildings does not include shooting peaceful protesters in the face or beating a Navy veteran who was not attacking anything, or scooping peaceful protesters up and whisking them away in unmarked cars.

that did not happen in front of a Federal Building you ******* liberal asswipe

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Trump is obligated by federal law to protect federal property.

But to the degree there's show to it, it's better than the one put on by Clueless Basement Joe. 
 
Basement Joe.
ROFL.
Trumplican talking point lie.
Lie?

He hasn't been in the basement for months?

He isn't clueless?

I tell the truth, and the psychopath calls it a lie.  

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Oh my gosh, rioters and vandals who attack federal buildings might be arrested?
Horrors!    
Here's a hint, psycho. Trump is obligated by federal law to do this.
 
Here's a hint psycho.
Protecting federal buildings does not include shooting peaceful protesters in the face or beating a Navy veteran who was not attacking anything, or scooping peaceful protesters up and whisking them away in unmarked cars.
Blah, blah, blah, blah. You have no idea what that facts are, but you'll be more than happy to make something up.

Smearing federal agents in the process.

Wackjob.  

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Trump Tweets Out Video Playing Catch With Kids on White House Lawn Where No One Wears Masks or Follows Social Distancing Rules

Just two hours after urging all American to practice social distancing and wear masks, President Donald Trump tweeted out a video of himself playing catch with more than a dozen Little Leaguers at the White House on MLB’s Opening Day, where no one was wearing masks or following social distancing rules.


 
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Does this jackass not know that this is Trump's America right now?
It is indeed a very scary place.

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Termin8tor » 24 Jul 2020, 4:09 pm » wrote:
Misty » 22 Jul 2020, 1:11 pm » wrote: Trumpty Dumpty's goons who are inciting more rioting.
When people are protesting police brutality the last thing you should do is send in people to brutalize them.
So how many of Trump's thugs have been arrested, psycho?  

Let me guess, a number less than one.
Who's going to arrest them you jackass?
 
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That time when Trump praised his goons for 'knocking the hell out of' a peaceful protester, in this case the Mayor of Portland whom I'm pretty sure was not committing and vandalism, violence or destruction of property.
President Trump called Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler “pathetic” after the Oregon politician was gassed by federal troops while standing among protesters outside a courthouse.

“He made a fool out of himself.

He wanted to be among the people, so he went into the crowd and they knocked the hell out of him,” Trump said during a prime-time performance with Sean Hannity on Fox News Thursday.

“That was the end of him. So that was pretty pathetic.”

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The death panels are here.
COVID-19 patients will be ‘sent home to die’ if deemed too sick, Texas county says.

The situation was not always as dire in this rural South Texas county.

Starr County once went about three weeks without a COVID-19 case at the beginning of the pandemic.

It banned large gatherings, tested hundreds of residents a day, issued stay-at-home orders and required face masks — many of the same mandates now commonplace across the U.S.

The poor and mostly Latino county on the Mexico border was containing COVID-19.

“A model for the country,” Starr County Judge Eloy Vera said Tuesday — as he shared an update that now appears gloomy.

In April, its aggressive and successful approach to beating the coronavirus was spotlighted by NBC News.

“We are very proud at this point that our numbers are very low, considering we are an at-risk population and the disparity in medical services and our low socio-economic population,” Joel Villareal, mayor of county seat Rio Grande City, told NBC News.

“We rank as one of the poorest counties in the nation. However, that does not deter us.”

But after Gov. Greg Abbott issued orders for the reopening of the state, overriding local control and decision-making, COVID-19 cases surged.

Now Starr County is at a dangerous “tipping point,” reporting an alarming number of new cases each day, data show.

Starr County Memorial Hospital — the county’s only hospital — is overflowing with COVID-19 patients.

The county has been forced to form what is being compared to a so-called “death panel.”

A county health board – which governs Starr Memorial – is set to authorize critical care guidelines Thursday that will help medical workers determine ways to allocate scarce medical resources on patients with the best chance to survive.

A committee will deem which COVID-19 patients are likely to die and send them home with family, Jose Vasquez, the county health authority, said during a news conference Tuesday.

“The situation is desperate,” Vasquez said.

“We cannot continue functioning in the Starr County Memorial Hospital nor in our county in the way that things are going.

The numbers are staggering.”

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