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Georgia. secretary of state says fellow Republicans are pressuring him to find ways to exclude ballots.

Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger said Monday that he has come under increasing pressure in recent days from fellow Republicans, including Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (S.C.), who he said questioned the validity of legally cast absentee ballots, in an effort to reverse President Trump’s narrow loss in the state.

In a wide-ranging interview about the election, Raffensperger expressed exasperation over a string of baseless allegations coming from Trump and his allies about the integrity of the Georgia results, including claims that Dominion Voting Systems, the Colorado-based manufacturer of Georgia’s voting machines, is a “leftist” company with ties to Venezuela that engineered thousands of Trump votes to be left out of the count.

The atmosphere has grown so contentious, Raffensperger said, that he and his wife, Tricia, have received death threats in recent days, including a text to him that read: “You better not botch this recount. Your life depends on it.”

“Other than getting you angry, it’s also very disillusioning,” Raffensperger said of the threats, “particularly when it comes from people on my side of the aisle.

Everyone that is working on this needs to elevate their speech. We need to be thoughtful and careful about what we say.” He said he reported the threats to state authorities.

The pressure on Raffensperger, who has bucked his party in defending the state’s voting process, comes as Georgia is in the midst of a laborious hand recount of about 5 million ballots. President-elect Joe Biden has a 14,000-vote lead in the initial count.

The normally mild-mannered Raffensperger saved his harshest language for Rep. Douglas A. Collins (R-Ga.), who is leading the president’s efforts in Georgia and whom Raffensperger called a “liar” and a “charlatan.”

Collins has questioned Raffensperger’s handling of the vote and accused him of capitulating to Democrats by not backing allegations of voter fraud more strongly.

Raffensperger has said that every accusation of fraud will be thoroughly investigated, but that there is currently no credible evidence that fraud occurred on a broad enough scale to affect the outcome of the election.

The recount, Raffensperger said in the interview Monday, will “affirm” the results of the initial count. He said the hand-counted audit that began last week will also prove the accuracy of the Dominion machines; some counties have already reported that their hand recounts exactly match the machine tallies previously reported.

Election officials in one county, Floyd, discovered about 2,600 eligible votes that were not included in the initial tallies because of a failure to upload them off a memory stick.

The secretary of state’s office said those votes probably would have been discovered, but it called for the resignation of the county election director.

“I’m an engineer. We look at numbers. We look at hard data,” Raffensperger said.
“I can’t help it that a failed candidate like Collins is running around lying to everyone. He’s a liar.”

A spokeswoman for Collins replied to a request for comment by linking to a tweet Collins sent on Monday in which he described Raffensperger’s “incompetence as Secretary of State.”

Collins ran unsuccessfully for Senate this year and is blamed by some Republicans for pushing the incumbent in that race, fellow Republican Sen. Kelly Loeffler, into a runoff against the Rev. Raphael Warnock, a Democrat.

In the interview, Raffensperger also said he spoke on Friday to Lindsey Graham, the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, who has echoed Trump’s unfounded claims about voting irregularities.

In their conversation, Graham questioned Raffensperger about the state’s signature-matching law and whether political bias could have prompted poll workers to accept ballots with nonmatching signatures, according to Raffensperger.

Graham also asked whether Raffensperger had the power to toss all mail ballots in counties found to have higher rates of nonmatching signatures, Raffensperger said.

Raffensperger said he was stunned that Graham appeared to suggest that he find a way to toss legally cast ballots.

Absent court intervention, Raffensperger doesn’t have the power to do what Graham suggested because counties administer elections in Georgia.

“It sure looked like he was wanting to go down that road,” Raffensperger said.

In an interview on Capitol Hill on Monday evening, Graham denied that he had suggested that Raffensperger toss legal ballots, calling that characterization “ridiculous.”

But he said he did seek out the secretary of state to understand the state’s signature-matching requirements. Graham said he contacted Raffensperger on his own and was not asked to do so by Trump.

“The main issue for me is: How do you protect the integrity of mail-in voting, and how does signature verification work?” he said.

“If he feels threatened by that conversation, he’s got a problem,” Graham added. “I actually thought it was a good conversation.”

On the same day that Graham spoke to Raffensperger about signature matching, a lawsuit was filed in federal court in Georgia challenging the way county election officials check signatures and allow voters a chance to fix ballots with errors.

The suit, filed by Atlanta lawyer and Trump supporter Lin Wood, seeks to block certification of Georgia’s election until all ballot envelopes are inspected.

Also that day, Trump tweeted about signature-matching in Georgia and criticized Raffensperger for his management of the state elections: “Georgia Secretary of State, a so-called Republican (RINO), won’t let the people checking the ballots see the signatures for fraud.
Why? Without this the whole process is very unfair and close to meaningless. Everyone knows that we won the state.”

Raffensperger said he will vigorously fight the lawsuit, which would require the matching of ballot envelopes with ballots — potentially exposing individual voters’ choices.

“It doesn’t matter what political party or which campaign does that,” Raffensperger said. “The secrecy of the vote is sacred.”

The secretary of state also warned that the Republican attacks on Dominion voting machines could create issues for the state’s Republican U.S. senators, Loeffler and David Perdue, who face runoffs on Jan. 5 that will be administered using the same Dominion machines.

Over the weekend, social media posts began appearing from Trump supporters questioning whether they feel comfortable using Dominion machines in the two runoff elections, which will determine which party controls the Senate.

“I don’t think it’s helpful when you create doubt in the election process,” Raffensperger said.

“People might throw up their arms and say, ‘Why vote?’ 
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Dr. Scott Atlas under fire for telling Michigan to 'rise up' against COVID-19 restrictions.

Dr. Scott Atlas, a controversial member of President Donald Trump's coronavirus task force, is facing heavy criticism after telling Michiganders to "rise up" against Gov. Gretchen Whitmer's new COVID-19 restrictions imposed as new cases surge in the state.

Whitmer has denounced Atlas' call to action, in a call with Michigan Capitol reporters Monday morning, slamming it as "incredibly reckless, considering everything that has happened, everything that is going on."

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's top expert on infectious diseases, told NBC's "Today" program Monday he "totally disagrees" with Atlas, and Dr. Ashish Jha, the dean of Brown University's School of Public Health, called the comment "particularly irresponsible," noting the death threats officials say Whitmer has faced.

"He is supposedly a physician and a disgrace to our profession," Jha said in a tweet Sunday night.

Whitmer, a Democrat who has come under frequent fire from Trump, detailed a new order Sunday to help slow the spread of the virus as the country enters a new wave resembling its peak in April.

In response to the rising number of cases, starting Wednesday for three weeks, Michigan will suspend in-person instruction at high schools and colleges, halt indoor dining at restaurants and close some businesses, including movie theaters and casinos.

Shortly after the announcement, Atlas, a neuroradiologist with no training in infectious diseases who joined the White House coronavirus task force in August and has since railed against COVID-19 restrictions, tweeted, "The only way this stops is if people rise up. You get what you accept. #FreedomMatters #StepUp."

The language echoed Trump's previous calls to "LIBERATE MICHIGAN!"

About three hours after the original tweet, Atlas attempted to walk back his comment as the criticism poured in, saying he wasn't talking about violence but raised people peacefully protesting and voting.

But Jha noted in his tweet that Whitmer is not up for election until 2022 and that Atlas "was not telling people to vote when he said they should rise up against her."

It all comes a little over a month after authorities revealed an alleged plot to overthrow the state Capitol and kidnap Whitmer. Individuals charged in the plot had protested against Whitmer's stringent restrictions which Trump also repeatedly criticized.

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I think instead of buying gifts for everyone, this Christmas I will be donating to food banks in their names.

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Misty » 16 Nov 2020, 10:58 pm » wrote: I think instead of buying gifts for everyone, this Christmas I will be donating to food banks in their names.

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Misty » 16 Nov 2020, 9:58 pm » wrote: Dr. Scott Atlas under fire for telling Michigan to 'rise up' against COVID-19 restrictions.


 
Dr. Atlas orders you to Rise Up and Shine.  That will show that nasty old virus who's boss...


 

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Misty » 16 Nov 2020, 2:12 pm » wrote: That wasn't a fact.
It was a lie.
Are you sure, it was presented as a fact...

Guess who was one of the biggest cheerleaders for that 'fact'... that's right, the senile Biden clown... but if he tells 'facts' now you can be sure it's not a lie...

 


 
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Jantje_Smit » 17 Nov 2020, 9:00 am » wrote:
Misty » 16 Nov 2020, 2:12 pm » wrote: That wasn't a fact.
It was a lie.
Are you sure, it was presented as a fact...

Guess who was one of the biggest cheerleaders for that 'fact'... that's right, the senile Biden clown... but if he tells 'facts' now you can be sure it's not a lie...

 

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Termin8tor » 17 Nov 2020, 10:36 am » wrote: Too **** funny.  Citing the deeply corrupt WashPost as a source.
   
What ever they claim, the opposite is  likely true, just like you.
You do understand that they interviewed Raffensperger and quoted him directly, don't you?
Termin8tor » 17 Nov 2020, 10:36 am » wrote: Raffensberger was bullied or bribed  into an illegal act; allowing absentee votes with any signature verification.
He's the corrupt hack who Dominion Software bribed into using their Election Stealing system.
And you can prove that, right?
Termin8tor » 17 Nov 2020, 10:36 am » wrote: Lin Wood has challenged Raffenburger's decision in court and will very likely win.
Almost every case thus far has either been thrown out or withdrawn.
Even if he does win it won't change the outcome of the election. 
Termin8tor » 17 Nov 2020, 10:36 am » wrote: Trump won Georgia, just like he won many other states he "lost."
And he won the election.
You are just really pathetic and sad now.
 
 
 
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Termin8tor » 17 Nov 2020, 2:06 pm » wrote:
Graham is so worried about election integrity across the US that he is only contacting secretaries of state in Swing States that Trump lost.

lack of logic, blah, blah

....ignorant Trump supporters
He's going there because that's primarily where the election was stolen, psycho. They didn't need to cheat in NY or California.

Your source is too **** stupid to understand that logic.
He was already caught lying about his conversation with the Georgia Secretary of State.
Someone else was listening in on the call.

And now he lied again.



 
 
 
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Termin8tor » 17 Nov 2020, 2:03 pm » wrote:
Misty » 17 Nov 2020, 1:15 pm » wrote: You do understand that they interviewed Raffensperger and quoted him directly, don't you?
So freaking what? Politicians, especially incompetent and/or corrupt politicians lie all the time.
You have absolutely no proof that the SOS of Georgia is either incompetent or corrupt.
You're just pulling that out of your *** you pathetic liar.

 
 
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Misty » 15 Nov 2020, 11:42 am » wrote: Who is asking you to kneel for every black guy you meet on the street?

I have seen you deplore white folks defending their neighborhood from actual rioters.

I have seen you celebrate ****** defending their neighborhood from mere visitors.

I think it's fair to say YOU are. You, and your ilk.
Tax dollars are like husbands and sons. The farther from home they get, the worse they behave.

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Misty » 15 Nov 2020, 1:02 pm » wrote: Andy Ngo is another James O’Keefe who selectively edits videos.

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/13 ... 03232?s=19

https://twitter.com/PhoenixLiberal1/sta ... 11297?s=19

And of course Trump re-Tweets the deceptively edited video to his millions of followers.


Everything I saw from BOTH sources was cowards attacking because they had the numbers, and even then, from the rear.
Tax dollars are like husbands and sons. The farther from home they get, the worse they behave.

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Fired on Twitter for telling the truth.



 
 
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Cannonpointer » 17 Nov 2020, 9:30 pm » wrote:
Misty » 15 Nov 2020, 11:42 am » wrote: Who is asking you to kneel for every black guy you meet on the street?
I have seen you deplore white folks defending their neighborhood from actual rioters.

I have seen you celebrate ****** defending their neighborhood from mere visitors.

I think it's fair to say YOU are. You, and your ilk.
If you are talking about the couple in St. Louis, those people were not actual rioters.
They were protesters marching to the mayor's house.

As for the ****** defending their neighborhood from visitors, I have no idea what you are talking about.
 
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Cannonpointer » 17 Nov 2020, 9:43 pm » wrote:
Misty » 15 Nov 2020, 1:02 pm » wrote: Andy Ngo is another James O’Keefe who selectively edits videos.

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/13 ... 03232?s=19

https://twitter.com/PhoenixLiberal1/sta ... 11297?s=19

And of course Trump re-Tweets the deceptively edited video to his millions of followers.

Everything I saw from BOTH sources was cowards attacking because they had the numbers, and even then, from the rear.
The guy who got knocked out was hardly an innocent victim.
He was the aggressor.
 
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Termin8tor » 17 Nov 2020, 5:05 pm » wrote:
Misty » 17 Nov 2020, 4:37 pm » wrote: You have absolutely no proof that the SOS of Georgia is either incompetent or corrupt.
You're just pulling that out of your *** you pathetic liar.
A psychopath like you shouldn't call anyone a liar, and if you ever followed my links, you'd see the evidence.
You mean like your links to that conspiracy theory/hoax/FAKE News site Gatewaypundit?
No thanks.
Termin8tor » 17 Nov 2020, 5:05 pm » wrote: I didn't claim proof, just very strong evidence. He absolutely violated Georgia law and the US Constitution and betrayed not only his party and the country. It isn't much of a stretch for him to be a corrupt political hack who got paid off.
So just as I suspected you pulled that **** about him taking a bribe out of your ***.
What law did he violate, and how did he violate the Constitution?

Raffensperger is a staunch Conservative who was endorsed by Trump himself in 2018.
You just don't like him because he won't help Trump steal the election.
 
Termin8tor » 17 Nov 2020, 5:05 pm » wrote:
If you're so sure that my claims are false, why don't you stop censoring me?

Because you want to hide the truth.
No, because I don't want my signature thread filled with your disinformation, propaganda, **** and lies.

 
 
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Termin8tor » 17 Nov 2020, 5:06 pm » wrote:
Misty » 17 Nov 2020, 4:33 pm » wrote: He was already caught lying about his conversation with the Georgia Secretary of State.
Someone else was listening in on the call.

And now he lied again.
How do you know Hobbs isn't lying?

You don't, so as usual, you're full of crap.
Two people say Graham is lying, but you believe him.
What business does a Senator from SC have getting involved in Georgia's election anyway?
It's none of his **** business.

 
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Misty » 17 Nov 2020, 11:37 pm » wrote: Two people say Graham is lying, but you believe him.
What business does a Senator from SC have getting involved in Georgia's election anyway?
It's none of his **** business.
Unfortunatly we know EXACTLY why he phoned him and how disgusting it is that he just EXPECTED that since Georgias SOS was a Re[publian he would be FINE comitting ELECTION FRAUD. It is a sad day that we see a Senator call a state trying to conspire to commit ELECTION FRAUD to keep Trump in the White House
 

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Rudy Giuliani and Trump’s last-stand push to overturn PA's election results get a frosty reception in court.

Seeking to inject some star power into his foundering legal effort to invalidate Pennsylvania’s election results, President Donald Trump handed the case to Rudy Giuliani on Tuesday.

But rather than salvage it, the former New York mayor found himself grilled for hours by a skeptical federal judge over his unsupported claims of a conspiracy to steal the election.

During a five-hour hearing in Williamsport, U.S. District Judge Matthew Brann appeared mystified as Giuliani asserted without evidence that a “Mafia-like” cabal of Democratic leaders in cities nationwide used mail ballots to rig the election in Joe Biden’s favor.

The judge seemed equally perplexed by the Trump campaign’s proposed remedy: that he should bar Pennsylvania from certifying its final vote tally.

“At bottom, you’re asking this court to invalidate some 6.8 million votes thereby disenfranchising every single voter in the commonwealth,” Brann said.
“Can you tell me how this result could possibly be justified?”

Giuliani, a last-minute addition to the Trump team’s legal roster for the pivotal hearing, personally presented the campaign’s arguments in court.

In the first federal case he has argued in nearly three decades, he varied between struggling, at times, to comprehend the judge’s questions on finer points of the law and boldly speculating, at others, about widespread fraud and malfeasance.

“If this is allowed without serious sanction, it’s going to become an epidemic,” Giuliani said.

“It’s already happened. You give them an inch, they’ll take a mile. They stole an election, at least in this commonwealth.”

As the hearing stretched into Tuesday night, Brann indicated that he did not intend to rule immediately and laid out a briefing schedule that would appear to preclude any decision in the case before Friday.

And yet, he canceled a planned hearing for Thursday in which Trump campaign lawyers had hoped to elicit testimony from witnesses who say they observed wrongdoing during the casting and counting of votes in seven Democratic-leaning counties, including Philadelphia and its suburbs.

“I don’t think there’s a need for a hearing at this juncture,” the judge said.
He cautioned, however: “I don’t want to sound like I’ve decided the matter yet.
I need to mull it over, frankly.”

Giuliani’s presence only underscored the importance the Trump campaign has placed on its case in Pennsylvania — one that increasingly appears to be the president’s last legal stand as judges in other battleground states have knocked down his lawsuits one-by-one.

But just as the case has grown in importance, so too has the margin of Trump’s Pennsylvania loss.

As of Tuesday evening, Biden held a 73,000-vote advantage with the count rapidly approaching its conclusion.

The Trump campaign’s central argument is that the entire process of casting and counting votes in Pennsylvania was so opaque and riddled with inconsistencies that no one can trust the outcome.

Yet all of the claims of fraud made Tuesday were speculative.

To date, Trump campaign lawyers have yet to lodge even one specific allegation — let alone provide evidence — of a ballot that was deliberately cast illegally.

Instead, it has zeroed in on counties, including Philadelphia, that contacted voters whose mail ballots were in danger of being disqualified due to deficiencies such as missing signatures or secrecy envelopes.

In some cases, county election officials — following guidance from Pennsylvania’s top elections official, Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar — allowed voters to either correct those errors before Election Day or cast a provisional ballot in-person at the polls.

Trump campaign lawyers told Brann on Tuesday that the practice is unlawful and unfairly diluted votes in GOP-leaning counties that did not offer similar opportunities to their voters.

Trump campaign lawyers told Brann on Tuesday that the practice is unlawful and unfairly diluted votes in GOP-leaning counties that did not offer similar opportunities to their voters.

Boockvar’s lawyers contend that state election law does not prohibit counties from alerting voters when they file flawed ballots.

What’s more, they say, she issued the same guidance to all of Pennsylvania’s 67 counties encouraging them to follow this process.

“I say, ‘Hallelujuah!’ to Secretary Boockvar,” said Mark Aronchick, an attorney representing the counties.

“What in the world is wrong with telling counties they can advise voters that their mail ballot is rejected so they can go to the polls and exercise their right to have their vote counted? … That is a problem? Hardly.”

Giuliani also pressed the judge Tuesday to rule in their favor based on reports from campaign monitors who say they were prevented from “meaningfully” monitoring the counting of votes in Democratic-leaning counties, including Philadelphia.

There, GOP observers have complained they were kept behind waist-high metal barriers too far away from the tables where votes were being tallied to actually inspect the ballots.

But even as Giuliani was offering that argument in Brann’s court, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court issued a ruling undercutting it.

In a 5-2 decision, the state’s justices sided with the city, saying it had complied with state laws that require only that partisan monitors be granted access to counting rooms.

The statute does say anything about how closely they may observe the actual ballots being tallied.

Chief Justice Thomas G. Saylor, a Republican, dissented — but primarily to note that with the counting all but done in the state, the matter was moot.

Like Brann, he balked at the Trump campaign’s proposed solution to its perceived wrong.

“Short of demonstrated fraud, the notion that presumptively valid ballots cast by the Pennsylvania electorate would be disregarded based on isolated procedural irregularities … thus disenfranchising potentially thousands of voters is misguided,” he wrote.

Attorneys representing Boockvar and the defendant counties in the federal case quickly marshaled the ruling into their arguments in Brann’s courtroom.

“Mr. Giuliani’s witnesses had their right to observe,” Aronchick said.
“That’s over. End of story.”

As for the rest of the Trump campaign’s claims, Aronchick rebutted them all in a 30-minute presentation that rhetorically aimed for Giuliani’s jugular, accusing him at various points of being “ignorant” of the law, living in “some fantasy world,” and perpetuating wild conspiracy theories that were “disgraceful in an American courtroom.”

He argued the campaign had no standing or evidence to pursue its case any further and urged Brann to follow the lead of other judges across the country.

“Please dismiss this case so we can move on to the real business of this country,” Aronchick pleaded with the judge. “We need to get this election certified.”

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