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Cannonpointer » 17 Nov 2023, 3:13 pm » wrote: I happen to agree that his motives were in large part humanitarian. But that opinion is based on watching him speak about human rights. Even if you take the humanitarian aspect out of the equation, he had every good reason for the moves he made. So I tend to defend his moves based on exigency and strategy - though I do agree that Putin is not only a balls to the wall national leader, but also a mensch.
True.  Strategically if Ukraine had taken Donetsk and Lugansk

this war would have been much more difficult for Russia.

Those cities dwarf Mariupol, Bakhmut, and Avdiivka.
 

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impartialobserver » 17 Nov 2023, 1:23 pm » wrote: When we would have meetings between economists.. the Ukraine conflict was the lead topic. This last time (a week ago)..it was never mentioned. So, it would appear that you are correct.

From an economist perspective, what did you guys talk about?

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Cannonpointer » 17 Nov 2023, 3:19 pm » wrote: I will confess that I would fight my geriatric heart out for the opportunity to disappoint her. 
 
When you won her, due to my persistence in combat you would face a charge of elder abuse.
 
WTF, you only live once!!  I had a ginger girlfriend once.  Horniest little thing who loved a hard pounding session.  A real screamer.  I wouldn't marry her though, because there was no trusting her when she was out of my sight.

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Skans » 17 Nov 2023, 3:25 pm » wrote: WTF, you only live once!!  I had a ginger girlfriend once.  Horniest little thing who loved a hard pounding session.  A real screamer.  I wouldn't marry her though, because there was no trusting her when she was out of my sight.
Yup. You take the word ginger, and move the first two letters, and you get ***.  :LOL:   
 

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Cannonpointer » 17 Nov 2023, 3:26 pm » wrote: Yup. You take the word ginger, and move the first two letters, and you get ***.  Image
OH SNAP!!!  YOU'RE RIGHT!!!
 

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Vegas » 17 Nov 2023, 3:23 pm » wrote: From an economist perspective, what did you guys talk about?
1. Jobs in Nevada (CES not QCEW.. if you need to know the distinction, I can lay it out)
2. Gaming win revenue/hotel room occupancy
3. Agriculture in NV (short section)
4. Consumer price inflation (national and NV). This is where Ukraine would come up. Cost of inputs to food manufacturing as well as gas prices. 
5. Tax revenues by source (cigarette, alcoohol, cannabis, general fund, UI Trust Fund Balance)
 

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impartialobserver » 17 Nov 2023, 3:29 pm » wrote: 1. Jobs in Nevada (CES not QCEW.. if you need to know the distinction, I can lay it out)
2. Gaming win revenue/hotel room occupancy
3. Agriculture in NV (short section)
4. Consumer price inflation (national and NV)
5. Tax revenues by source (cigarette, alcoohol, cannabis, general fund, UI Trust Fund Balance)

Nice. It appears that my taxes are being properly used. Lol. 

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Sergei » 17 Nov 2023, 3:19 pm » wrote: make advice to ignorant like you

Zelensky or Zelenskyy

make fact. 
ground war finished.
make money to  Zelenskyy and go to pocket.
you been play like silly fool
No Friend, you have things all screwed down!  I pay Zelenskyy $5000 U.S. and he promise me one whole week with niece:Image

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Vegas » 17 Nov 2023, 3:31 pm » wrote: Nice. It appears that my taxes are being properly used. Lol.
If it makes you feel better.. my office has been the one leading the way in the use and adaptation of Python and R. The days of each person having their stuff stored locally on their computer and then sending them to each other and blah, blah, blah.. are gone. Most of the reports are automated with only the data input in the beginning being somewhat manual. We have persuaded HHS and DOT to use it. Less need for OT and less need for staffing. 
 

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Skans » 17 Nov 2023, 3:32 pm » wrote: No Friend, you have things all screwed down!  I pay Zelenskyy $5000 U.S. and he promise me one whole week with niece: 
^impotent cuck :rofl:  
 

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impartialobserver » 17 Nov 2023, 3:29 pm » wrote: 1. Jobs in Nevada (CES not QCEW.. if you need to know the distinction, I can lay it out)
2. Gaming win revenue/hotel room occupancy
3. Agriculture in NV (short section)
4. Consumer price inflation (national and NV). This is where Ukraine would come up. Cost of inputs to food manufacturing as well as gas prices. 
5. Tax revenues by source (cigarette, alcoohol, cannabis, general fund, UI Trust Fund Balance)
1. I would appreciate that distinction being spelled out. 
3. It would not be if this nation had any leadership. Annual midwest flooding could be stopped cold with the construction of a few large reservoirs and a water pipeline over the rockies into lake powell - and NV could be made an enormous oasis: Murka's new farm belt and the answer to our trade imbalance. 
 

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impartialobserver » 17 Nov 2023, 3:34 pm » wrote: If it makes you feel better.. my office has been the one leading the way in the use and adaptation of Python and R. The days of each person having their stuff stored locally on their computer and then sending them to each other and blah, blah, blah.. are gone. Most of the reports are automated with only the data input in the beginning being somewhat manual. We have persuaded HHS and DOT to use it. Less need for OT and less need for staffing.

Why don't you hire me? I'll put everyone in their place. I'll fire all of them, except you. Then give you all of their salaries combined.  :D  

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Skans » 17 Nov 2023, 3:32 pm » wrote: No Friend, you have things all screwed down!  I pay Zelenskyy $5000 U.S. and he promise me one whole week with niece:
I have never bought ****** in my life. Not once.







I have rented on quite a few occasions, and twice I leased to own - but never ONCE did I buy it. Any prosecutor or state's witness who says otherwise is lying through his **** biscuits.  Image  

I was absolutely innocent. I have no idea why there were holes in my steamer trunk allowing oxygen to flow, nor do I have any clue how that girl got in there. As to the OUT OF CONTEXT recordings, People DO have trouble translating Indoneisan into English.

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Cannonpointer » 17 Nov 2023, 3:39 pm » wrote: 1. I would appreciate that distinction being spelled out. 
3. It would not be if this nation had any leadership. Annual midwest flooding could be stopped cold with the construction of a few large reservoirs and a water pipeline over the rockies into lake powell - and NV could be made an enormous oasis: Murka's new farm belt and the answer to our trade imbalance.

1. CES is Current Employment Statistics. It is a monthly estimate of jobs in a given area based on past CES data, surveys, some LAUS data (unemployment rate) and unemployment insurance claims. Each month, you get the national estimate and then formulate the states based on that. The states have to add up to the national total. CES data is an estimate so each month, the past month is revised. 
2. QCEW is Quarterly Census of Employment and Wages. It is a population not an estimate of all firms and establishments broken down by NAICS code in a given area. From this data set, you get jobs, wages, taxable wages, UI contributions, and ownerhip (federal gov, state gov, local gov, or private). The reason that we do not rely on this number is the lag time. At best, the lag is 5 months. For example, data for 2023 q1 comes out in late August 2023. The reason is that you have to fine tune all of the data points such as NAICS code (111211 vs. 111212), physical address, administrative address, etc. There are minimal revisions to QCEW data. 

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Vegas » 17 Nov 2023, 3:41 pm » wrote: Why don't you hire me? I'll put everyone in their place. I'll fire all of them, except you. Then give you all of their salaries combined.  Image

I can PM you but going to be hiring 1 or 2 new people in January. It will be mostly clerical at first but then the job will be to automate these tasks using R, Python, and SQL. 

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impartialobserver » 17 Nov 2023, 3:47 pm » wrote: 1. CES is Current Employment Statistics. It is a monthly estimate of jobs in a given area based on past CES data, surveys, some LAUS data (unemployment rate) and unemployment insurance claims. Each month, you get the national estimate and then formulate the states based on that. The states have to add up to the national total. CES data is an estimate so each month, the past month is revised. 
2. QCEW is Quarterly Census of Employment and Wages. It is a population not an estimate of all firms and establishments broken down by NAICS code in a given area. From this data set, you get jobs, wages, taxable wages, UI contributions, and ownerhip (federal gov, state gov, local gov, or private). The reason that we do not rely on this number is the lag time. At best, the lag is 5 months. For example, data for 2023 q1 comes out in late August 2023. The reason is that you have to fine tune all of the data points such as NAICS code (111211 vs. 111212), physical address, administrative address, etc. There are minimal revisions to QCEW data.
Thankyou.

Am I wrong to infer that CES is somewhat forced by a top down number from DC, and to that degree less useful than if not subjected to forcing?
 

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Cannonpointer » 17 Nov 2023, 3:51 pm » wrote: Thankyou.

Am I wrong to infer that CES is somewhat forced by a top down number from DC, and to that degree less useful than if not subjected to forcing?

Honestly, not sure why they force the top down number on everyone. While I have ran the numbers.. it is not my wheelhouse. QCEW and Unemployment Insurance Reports are where I could spell out how each number is formulated. I tend not to rely on CES numbers because it is an estimate and not to give you shop talk but they classify the industries in an odd way. They use what is called a "seriescode" and there are far fewer of them than there are NAICS codes so if you want to know if an industry is growing, shrinking.. CES can lead you astray
 

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Skans » 17 Nov 2023, 3:32 pm » wrote: No Friend, you have things all screwed down!  I pay Zelenskyy $5000 U.S. and he promise me one whole week with niece:Image


 
Oh, neither have I.  That was my Muslim Ukrainian friend who hijacked my computer and typed that.
 

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Skans » 17 Nov 2023, 1:21 pm » wrote: Everyone has tuned into Israel-Hamas TV.  So, here's my advice to you - you need to launch an all out assault on Moscow - then people will watch your war again.
COMICAL
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