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Does anyone know if there are statistics showing how many of the 70 million who voted for Trump are deluded into thinking the election was stolen from him vs. normal people who voted for him just because he's a Republican and accept the defeat like any other election?
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https://today.yougov.com/topics/politic ... trump-poll

This poll really shows the discrepancies and lies that the Republicans have been fed by there dear leader Trump.

52% of Republicans think Joe Biden was the main culprit of and the person that incited the violence at the Capital....

This is a huge problem.

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Wow, thanks for this link! We really do live in a country of morons!

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The press, both print and electronic, mostly choose to put out content designed to get the highest ratings.  Good fiction beats out fact most of the time.
Unfortunately, many uninformed people are not intellectually equipped to tell lies from truth.
So they have been taken in by lies.
That's how we got Trumpism.
The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much it is whether we provide enough for those who have little :--- Franklin D. Roosevelt

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progressivecitizen » 13 Jan 2021, 4:59 pm » wrote: Wow, thanks for this link! We really do live in a country of morons!

Sadly we do Yes. 

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zkyll8 » 13 Jan 2021, 2:13 pm » wrote: https://today.yougov.com/topics/politic ... trump-poll

This poll really shows the discrepancies and lies that the Republicans have been fed by there dear leader Trump.

52% of Republicans think Joe Biden was the main culprit of and the person that incited the violence at the Capital....

This is a huge problem.

This is without doubt after covid-19 and the economy what this administration has to address no matter how ugly it gets this will ultimately destroy this country if we don't get a handle on this. And I don't know what the answer is it's probably **** but what can we do.

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billking » Yesterday, 4:41 am » wrote: This is without doubt after covid-19 and the economy what this administration has to address no matter how ugly it gets this will ultimately destroy this country if we don't get a handle on this. And I don't know what the answer is it's probably **** but what can we do.

I agree how can someone with a straight face actually believe in the lies that the snake oil salesman has sold them. 

It's beyond disgraceful, how can you seriously think that Joe Biden is the one at fault for the capital storm? 

He didn't have a rally 3 hours before, he didn't say on a National Debate stage, stand down and ready. 

Facts do not matter to these people, they are fueled by all of the lies and promises there dear leader has glimpsed at doing.  

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zkyll8 » Yesterday, 11:05 am » wrote: I agree how can someone with a straight face actually believe in the lies that the snake oil salesman has sold them. 

It's beyond disgraceful, how can you seriously think that Joe Biden is the one at fault for the capital storm? 

He didn't have a rally 3 hours before, he didn't say on a National Debate stage, stand down and ready. 

Facts do not matter to these people, they are fueled by all of the lies and promises there dear leader has glimpsed at doing.

Well there has to be some pre conceived beliefs to begin with and sadly at least half are racially motivated.
First is a feeling of victimhood that minorities are being given opportunities instead of earning them like they feel they do but our history has proven good jobs and opportunities where denied to minority communities for most of our history. Affirmative action and other government efforts to lift these communities was met with strong resentment from white households.
There is also a strong belief that Islam is pure evil and we should not ever allow another person from a Islamic country to ever enter this country again, Trump did exactly what they wanted with his attempted Muslim ban which failed.
The country is losing its masculinity with progressive left leaning laws that address acts of intimidation and discrimination, they think looking the other way is okay.
There is a lot to overcome and probably the most difficult is convincing or at least getting them to listen to how Donald Trump has lied over the years. The challenge is that here is someone who talks about the same issues the same as they do who has ascended to the presidency because to them what he says is basically divine and beyond reproach.
 

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