Capitalism vs Socialism

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Posted by Hannibal
  29 09 Jan 2014, 3:37 am

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neue regel » 07 Jan 2014 10:33 pm wrote:

There would be nothing and no one who would step in to fill the void of snow removal if not for government??


Some maverick capitalist is is going to figure out how to turn a profit plowing public roads without drivers pooling their money (socialism) to pay for the service. Maybe he could charge Ayn Rand's ghost, or maybe bill his own massive ego. Yep there is a profit to be made supplying all public services our society needs without collecting tax payer money. Besides all of us having to pay cost+ for all our societies basic needs would be far better because somebody can get rich billking the tax payers, I hear most tax payers would love to overpay some crook aiming to buy a yacht with their money so they can have their streets plowed. :LOL: Why don't we just have the police ask for your credit card # before they send a unit ! Then some intrepid "kewl capitalist" police chief can send some police provocateurs in plain clothes out to "drum" up some business. ;) The sky is the limit when exploiting human needs to line your own pockets ! Not because it makes sense or is beneficial, but because being over the top pro capitalist to the point of lunacy makes you "kewl" and "edgy", kinda like the Marlboro man before he died of cancer. Popup, you're so "kewl" and "edgy". :rofl:
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  29 09 Jan 2014, 3:53 am

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Cedarswamp » 07 Jan 2014 11:04 pm wrote:

Remain ignorant, your choice, but the government providing a service does not make that service socialist.


It IS socialism. You do realize the US has a "mixed economy" don't you? There are no pure socialist or pure free market economic models. Just because you have been trained like a monkey by your plutocrat masters that socialism has "cooties" doesn't mean you can change the definition of the word. FYI; your plutocrat masters love socialism, they love to get government subsidies to develop expensive high tech shiz like commercial air craft, fighter aircraft, gps, cell phones, satellites ect then turn around and "privatize" the profits. I bet you don't believe that is socialism either do you? Believe what ever you want I guess, its you they are fucking though. :LOL:
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  29 09 Jan 2014, 3:18 pm

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Is that the best retort you have ?































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  29 09 Jan 2014, 3:50 pm

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Cedarswamp » 09 Jan 2014 2:37 pm wrote:

You probably shouldn't be on your "plutocrat masters" computer if you want to speak from a position of integrity. Nahmean?


I paid cash for my computer, so did you, through corporate subsidies to high tech industry that developed it.. Thanks Ceadar ! :D I paid for the computer once, you will pay a bit towards many every time you make or spend a dollar. ;)
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  29 09 Jan 2014, 7:59 pm

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bingster » 09 Jan 2014 6:42 pm wrote:

Major contradiction, man. There's a synergy in what you typed that goes way above your head. The government employs the product of capitalism. Without that "employ" your capitalists don't make as much money. Plus, there's the blatant subsidizing of all technology that capitalism relies on and the infrastructure with which it moves it around the country. Capitalism without socialism is impossible. You can't find a pure example of it in the world.


Na uh man ! Socialism has cooties, My boss told me ! :shock:
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  29 09 Jan 2014, 8:23 pm

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Endoscopy » 09 Jan 2014 7:08 pm wrote:

Micro electronics especially microprocessors were an outgrowth of the NASA demand for smaller and lighter electronics for space missions. It was not subsidized silly. It was the demand NASA had for electronics.


How is NASA funded Mr smarty pants ? Where do they get their money ? :rofl:
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Posted by Hannibal
  29 09 Jan 2014, 8:24 pm

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Cedarswamp » 09 Jan 2014 7:07 pm wrote:

Actually my computer was free, my employer bought it so I could work from home. :thumbup:

So you don't make or spend dollars?


I said you helped pay for mine, an no, I sure don't.
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  29 09 Jan 2014, 9:08 pm

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Cedarswamp » 09 Jan 2014 7:33 pm wrote:

How about the wife? Her job not paying in dollars?


We get paid in Hope. :\
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  29 09 Jan 2014, 9:17 pm

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Endoscopy » 09 Jan 2014 7:23 pm wrote:
:die: :die: :die: :die: :die:
So how come the best things come from independent companies doing their own research for better products. Also lone inventors come up with much of the innovation. You progressives think that the sun rises and falls with the government. What happened to the billions given to the green energy companies to help them become profitable??? Down the drain of bankruptcy. Your great Obama gave quite a few of them a massive amount of money. What was the answer from one of the people involved in giving that money? "I told you energy is expensive!" So giving government money to these failed companies is part of the expense. Great things happening in government subsidies to create something in green energy.

IDIOTIC PROGRESSIVES



You are the Idiot that doesn't know how NASA is funded. THERE WOULD BE NO HIGH TECH INDUSTRIES WITHOUT GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES. FYI: the nuclear power industry couldn't even float without government subsideis. You don't love capitalism, you don't know shit about it. You have a head full of kool aid and "Romantic notions" about capitalism. You are a chump aren't you ? You know this little about the American economy and you are going to debate economics and the Banking sector !?

Endoscopy » 09 Jan 2014 5:30 pm wrote:
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All your credibility went out the window with advocating that foolish conspiracy theory.


A word of advice, WATCH YOUR FUCKING MOUTH WHEN TALKING TO ME BOY, YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT. :twisted:
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  29 09 Jan 2014, 9:55 pm

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I am beginning to believe this is the entire depth of your ability. :mrgreen:
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  29 09 Jan 2014, 10:08 pm

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You call my "Opinion" Inane but you don't know what it is. I merely stated facts about capitalism. No where did I share my "Opinion" of it. You cannot even formulate an argument to explain you position on it, you simply ham handedly spam the thread with your contradictory and inaccurate "Pro Capitalist Meme". I would say that you are the you with the "Inane" opinion. I don't believe you know very much about economics, If you did, you could do better than spamming us all with the same meme over and over. It's not witty, it's demonstrating a lack of knowledge on you part. I must admit this behavior suits you nicely though, by all means, carry on. ;)
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  29 09 Jan 2014, 10:37 pm

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PoliticalPopUp » 09 Jan 2014 9:22 pm wrote:
I'm not wasting time arguing with a close minded true believer like you. Capitalism is more efficient than socialism. That is all my "spam" represents. I'm sure you'll want to cite all kinds of economic stats you got from some lefty school ya went to, but I'm not interested.


Believer of what ? You haven't asked be what I believe. I would say "The close minded one" its the one making conclusions with no facts to back them. You have done this both with my supposed "Opinion" of capitalism and my "True beliefs" in what exactly ? If you are not talking out you ass, then you should be able to point out where you found evidence of my true beliefs. Do you have any example of Capitalism "Being more efficient" ? What "Lefty economic stats" have I cited ? Can you link us to them or quote them ? I suspect not as I did not such thing. What evidence do you have that I am a "Lefty" ? I would bet the farm its same amount you have to support your supposed knowledge of my opinion, my true believes, where I went to school and weather or not I can be quantified sufficiently in a 2 dimensional right/left political scale. The manner in which you pretend to know about me is the same manner in which you pretend to know about Capitalism I suspect, that is with zero evidence to support your beliefs. If you are familiar with the supposed "efficientcies of Capitalism" then you should have very little trouble explaining them to us. Go ahead, explain your position to us. I would love to hear it. :huh:
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  29 10 Jan 2014, 12:54 am

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PoliticalPopUp » 09 Jan 2014 10:34 pm wrote:
I was going to give you a thoughtful reply, but then I remembered what a trite movie "V fore VEndetta" was, and I lost interest...


No one buys that, what's far more likely is that you lack the sophistication necessary to mount an effective argument in favor of "Capitalist efficiency". They us what you really think, you do think don't you ? ;)
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  29 10 Jan 2014, 2:35 am

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PoliticalPopUp » 10 Jan 2014 1:31 am wrote:
Oh you two are so intelligent. You know better than all the rest of us. Oh yes...you know a good thread when you read it.....I pity you bloated egotists....


You are determined to make yourself look as bad as possible aren't you !? :rofl: At this rate you will never earn the respect of even a single poster on this forum. ;)
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  29 10 Jan 2014, 2:38 am

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greatnpowerfuloz » 10 Jan 2014 1:25 am wrote:

Disney movies say it all.


Which do you figure popup is ? :mrgreen:

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PoliticalPopUp » 10 Jan 2014 1:47 am wrote:
Why do you thnk I want your respect?


Maybe you don't. I didn't refer to you being worried about simply my respect, I stated ''the respect of even a single poster on this forum." :geek:
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  29 10 Jan 2014, 3:42 am

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PoliticalPopUp » 10 Jan 2014 2:00 am wrote:
I am not here to earn respect or make cyber friends....


Well it seems as though you didn't come here to be understood or exchange Ideas either. :sleep:
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