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Xavier_Onassis » 29 Mar 2023, 1:35 pm » wrote: It is machine theatrics, that demonstrates that a machine can do some things better than a human.
I suggest you actually research quantum computing....
and while you are at it ....
I also suggest you research Chaos computing which is the foundation of the diabolical transhumanism movement ....


 

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Majik » 29 Mar 2023, 1:55 pm » wrote: That is just scratching the surface .....of the ethical debate ....that isn't being debated in a rush for profit.
like how will AI in conjunction with Robotics make the need for huge populations of laborer's obsolete and how will that affect government attitudes toward population control?

A lot of people don't understand what AI is. They think it's just something that follows our shopping habits and can figure out spam emails.  It isn't just a programmable machine. I know the algorithms and the math behind it all. I work with it. The algorithms are designed to help the computer teach itself and think for itself. And it works. It used to be science fiction, like the movies War Games and 2001. The ability to reason is far different than the ability to be programmed to do tasks. 

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Xavier_Onassis » 29 Mar 2023, 1:35 pm » wrote: It is machine theatrics, that demonstrates that a machine can do some things better than a human.
It shows me- it loses in the end? :LOL:  It didn't un-think the human in the end.
 

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Vegas » 29 Mar 2023, 2:01 pm » wrote: A lot of people don't understand what AI is. They think it's just something that follows our shopping habits and can figure out spam emails.  It isn't just a programmable machine. I know the algorithms and the math behind it all. I work with it. The algorithms are designed to help the computer teach itself and think for itself. And it works. It used to be science fiction, like the movies War Games and 2001. The ability to reason is far different than the ability to be programmed to do tasks.
They downplay the risk because of ignorance ....
and don't have a clue that the goal was/ is with AI ...self awareness.
and many of the labs now are reporting ...self awareness with their AI.


 

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Majik » 29 Mar 2023, 2:07 pm » wrote: They downplay the risk because of ignorance ....
and don't have a clue that the goal was/ is with AI ...self awareness.
and many of the labs now are reporting ...self awareness with their AI.

They downplay it because they are too lazy to research what it really is. They think it's just some machine with wires and metal. 

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Vegas » 29 Mar 2023, 2:09 pm » wrote: They downplay it because they are too lazy to research what it really is. They think it's just some machine with wires and metal.
Have you seen this ....

https://phys.org/news/2021-06-edge-chao ... gence.html

Neuroscentists are already trying to build a neural network with nanotechnology for AI....
 

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Majik » 29 Mar 2023, 2:07 pm » wrote: They downplay the risk because of ignorance ....
and don't have a clue that the goal was/ is with AI ...self awareness.
and many of the labs now are reporting ...self awareness with their AI.
It should be easy to program a device to tell you "Okay, I am self-aware".

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Neo » 29 Mar 2023, 1:58 pm » wrote: Obviously we need to have limits in place. I agree with the concerns. Deep fakes generated by AI would be indistinguishable from real footage as the usual giveaways would be removed. We are certainly in an age where anything you do not personally witness first hand should be met with some skepticism. Tests will have to be monitored real time. Controls over things like infrastructure should always have a human at the switch.
Obviously...
but the cold hard truth is ....
there are no limits right now ....no ethics and no oversight.....
also the very people you would think would want limits like the Government and Military are the culprits whom are highly invested in these labs and are making sure there are no limits .....



 

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Majik » 29 Mar 2023, 2:24 pm » wrote: Have you seen this ....

https://phys.org/news/2021-06-edge-chao ... gence.html

Neuroscentists are already trying to build a neural network with nanotechnology for AI....

I know about it. Neural networks and deep learning are a necessary part of AI. They human neurons have been the ideal model and inspiration for it. Humans have about 86 billion neurons. As of now, most AI bots only have about 1k. However, it grows exponentially with each layer of neural network. After a few decades, maybe less, an AI bot can surpass the number of neurons a human has. We were able to do it with transistors in computers. When transistors replaced vacuum tubes, the first computer had only 800 transistors. A typical modern laptop has 2 billion now. 

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Xavier_Onassis » 29 Mar 2023, 2:31 pm » wrote: It should be easy to program a device to tell you "Okay, I am self-aware".
Why do you keep up with this nonsense .....
The fact is with the advent of quantum machine learning and quantum computers ....
The programmer isn't writing the code anymore ...The quantum computer is ....

 

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Neo » 29 Mar 2023, 1:16 pm » wrote: I am in the field. It does not display intelligence. It's quite artificial. Getting better but ai will never think, it will always reference and compare data sets. The only opinions it develops are those programmed in.
I agree
 
 

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Majik » 29 Mar 2023, 2:45 pm » wrote: Why do you keep up with this nonsense .....
The fact is with the advent of quantum machine learning and quantum computers ....
The programmer isn't writing the code anymore ...The quantum computer is ....

XO is a covert narcissist. They refuse to admit that they don't know something. When they don't, they come up with nonsense to try and sound competent. This is what XO does here daily. 

Remember Blackvegtable? He was also a narcissist. One time he told @Huey  that he could drive an 18-wheeler easily because he once drove a manual car through the Rockies.  :rofl:  

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Vegas » 29 Mar 2023, 2:58 pm » wrote:
Majik » 29 Mar 2023, 2:45 pm » wrote: Why do you keep up with this nonsense .....
The fact is with the advent of quantum machine learning and quantum computers ....
The programmer isn't writing the code anymore ...The quantum computer is ....

XO is a covert narcissist. They refuse to admit that they don't know something. When they don't, they come up with nonsense to try and sound competent. This is what XO does here daily. 

Remember Blackvegtable? He was also a narcissist. One time he told @Huey  that he could drive an 18-wheeler easily because he once drove a manual car through the Rockies.  :rofl:  

 

I'll tell you this.  I know nothing about the technology behind quantum computers, AI etc.

Although I used to watch Quantum Leap. 

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Huey » 29 Mar 2023, 3:01 pm » wrote: I'll tell you this.  I know nothing about the technology behind quantum computers, AI etc.

Although I used to watch Quantum Leap.

I know very little about guns, but a lot about AI. You know a lot about guns, but not so much about AI. We all have our interests. Veghead and XO know everything about everything.  :rofl:  

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Vegas » 29 Mar 2023, 3:03 pm » wrote: I know very little about guns, but a lot about AI. You know a lot about guns, but not so much about AI. We all have our interests. Veghead and XO know everything about everything.  Image

Oh, and how to drive a tractor trailer thru the mountains. 

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Huey » 29 Mar 2023, 3:04 pm » wrote: Oh, and how to drive a tractor trailer thru the mountains.

I know that moron is on some forum somewhere. He has no life, it's all he does. I wonder which one. 

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Vegas » 29 Mar 2023, 3:05 pm » wrote: I know that moron is on some forum somewhere. He has no life, it's all he does. I wonder which one.

I know where he was up to Monday.  

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Huey » 29 Mar 2023, 3:07 pm » wrote: I know where he was up to Monday.

Where?

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Vegas » 29 Mar 2023, 1:55 pm » wrote: You clearly have no idea about AI. Go educate yourself first, then respond.
 
The video she posted was precisely what I said it was.
Some uses of AI might pose a threat, but this example poses none.
And all you do is insult me. You are the one not using reason.

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Majik » 29 Mar 2023, 1:29 pm » wrote: So, you disagree with this statement ?
and you down play the risk?
and could your opinion be tied to your lively hood?

The letter, issued by the non-profit Future of Life Institute, has been signed by more than 1,100 individuals, including Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak, Stability AI founder and CEO Emad Mostaque, and engineers from Meta and Google, among others.They argue that AI systems with human-competitive intelligence can pose “profound risks to society and humanity,” and change the “history of life on Earth,” citing extensive research on the issue and acknowledgments by “top AI labs.”Experts go on to state that there is currently limited planning and management regarding Advanced AI systems despite companies in recent months being “locked in an out-of-control race to develop and deploy ever more powerful digital minds that no one—not even their creators—can understand, predict, or reliably control.”“Contemporary AI systems are now becoming human-competitive at general tasks and we must ask ourselves: Should we let machines flood our information channels with propaganda and untruth? Should we automate away all the jobs, including the fulfilling ones? Should we develop nonhuman minds that might eventually outnumber, outsmart, obsolete, and replace us? Should we risk loss of control of our civilization? Such decisions must not be delegated to unelected tech leaders,” the letter states.
I can agree with what is posted in this letter.
I imagine everyone's opinion is in some way linked to their livelihood.
The Chinese are already using AI to reward good behavior and punish bad behavior. Or what they consider to be good and bad.
They Chinese have concluded that Falun Gong and Islam are incompatible with the AI controlled society they are planning. and are trying very hard to do away with both.