Is Trump going to jail?

[golfboy]

It's called prosecutorial discretion. 

And that's why no one believes anything you say. 
There is no justice in America anymore. 

Only Republicans are charged with crimes by this biased Department of "Justice". 
 

[Prospero]

And that's why no one believes anything you say. 
There is no justice in America anymore. 

Only Republicans are charged with crimes by this biased Department of "Justice".

Oh, really?  I guess that is why Dem Sen, Bob Menendez is under indictment

Bob Menendez: New Jersey Democratic senator under federal investigation again | CNN Politics

You really should adhere to that old adage;  'look before you shoot, lest you shoot yourself in the foot'. 

You may now remove your foot from your mouth.  
 

[golfboy]

Oh, really?  I guess that is why Dem Sen, Bob Menendez is under indictment

Bob Menendez: New Jersey Democratic senator under federal investigation again | CNN Politics

You really should adhere to that old adage;  'look before you shoot, lest you shoot yourself in the foot'. 

You may now remove your foot from your mouth.

Your story is 8 months old, and he's not been indicted. 
Let's see if you're man enough to apologize. 
 

[Redheaded Stranger]

Your story is 8 months old, and he's not been indicted. 
Let's see if you're man enough to apologize.

 
 

[Sumela]

white knuckling Trumps coattails

appears desperate.

He literally CHOSE Pomp the **** and Bolton.

[Cannonpointer]

You base this on what evidence?

Since I wouldn't let you keep ducking it, you decided to lie about it, eh, Sodomite Chaser? Okay, go ahead - tell your lies, and then I willl quote your leader in the United Anti-Sodomy Brigade, fruitcake.

FDR, as Assistant Secretary of the Navy did coincide with the Newport Sex Scandal in 1919, which involved entrapment of men alleged to be engaging in homosexual activities. However, characterizing FDR as personally persecuting gays might be a stretch - historical sources suggest that he approved the inquiry but was not directly involved in its execution.

Huh. Isn't that fraudulently intersting. Say more about that, pants of fire homophobe.

You'll need to source this (okay, I see your link, I'll check it out)  and let me look at what you are basing your conclusions on.  But you have to factor in the prevailing attitudes at the time.

Let's do that, jackass. Here is what FDR had to say: “I did it for the uplift of humanity and the Navy”

You appear to be guilty of a phenomenon called "presentism."

YOU are the one guilty of presentism, thinking your silliness quite mod and thinking opposition to it old fashioned. The very idea that there have not always been libertines and those who oppose them is presentist.

The Weimar Republic was captive to no such attitudes as you drone on about and mischaracterize as anachronisms - though Weimar existed in the same time. The Weimar was quite libertine. The issue between permissives and anti-permissives is not limited by chronology, as your presentism leads you to believe. It went on millennia before. It's going on NOW. It's oh so tony and modern. 

Between 1919 and 1933, the first mass-market periodicals for gays, lesbians, and what were then called "transvestites" were published in the Weimar Republic. This was in the same time frame when FDR was stringin' up queers. So, it's not about the PERIOD. It's about FDR's belief system. He wasn't being tony - he was being himself. These were his principles on display. He believed himself responsible to guard public morals, against the likelihood that the failure of public morals would lead to chaos, which chaos would then lead to a strongman.

The first open and legal gay political action committees, the League for Human Rights and the German Friendship Society, were founded in the Weimar. They pushed the notion that there were people with male bodies and female souls - what today you people push as "transgenders." Germany had a swinging sexual liberty that pervaded society. It was quite the party. Then came the hangover, in the person of a fellow named adolf hitler. He sent the revelers to camp.

FDR not only saved capitalism from the enraged masses. He also saved America from fascism - by preventing precisely what you and your kind have accomplished: the debasement of public morals to the point that children are being manipulated by perverts on the state payrol..

No, presentist. You don't get away with dismissing your leader's anti-homo positions as the fault of his ERA, when his ERA followed the Roarin' 20s and coexisted with the Weimar Republic. Men were not more naive in those days. They saw as clearly as we do today the issues that confront humanity and society. FDR was not a victim of his time. He did not have quaint ideas. His anti-homo stance was no tic of his time period. He viewed *** as a danger to society. And you agree with him to some precise extent. Let me remember what you said... Oh, yeah. 100%.

Homophobe. 

 
 

[Cannonpointer]

I am, and I know a lot of FDR dems, and you are most certainly not one. You have not written anything in any of your replies that remotely comes anywhere near the ballpark of being an FDR Democrat.  All you do is rant, rave, and call names. What kind of FDR Dem does that? Not any kind that I know.  

You live in L.A.  Pico and La Cienega (and you can't spell it?  )  is close to Beverly Hills.  So you are an FDR dem, and you can't spell?  You are a phony.  

What link?   

You are utterly the dumbest democrat I've ever encountered.  You are doorknob dumb.  

You're a phony, a troll.  You haven't the slightest clue as to what it means to be an FDR Democrat.  

You haven't said a gawddamn thing of substance since I've encountered you on this forum. 

All you have done is rant and rave and say NOTHING, 

You are a PHONY.

You cried when I picked on a spelling error. I see you hold yourself to a different standard.

I do that, too - but I hold myself to a HIGHER standard - not a lower one. 

I do not live at Pico and La Seeyanigga. I LIVED there - I do not live there. Where I live, I can have dogs and a garden without paying millions for a home. 

And I never declared myself a democrat, fruitcake. I said I was an FDR DEMOCRAT. I might as well have called myself a Whig, dummy. Your presentism knows no bounds. And you CLEARLY know jack **** about FDR, you idiot.        
 
 

[Cannonpointer]

Oh, really?  I guess that is why Dem Sen, Bob Menendez is under indictment

Bob Menendez: New Jersey Democratic senator under federal investigation again | CNN Politics

You really should adhere to that old adage;  'look before you shoot, lest you shoot yourself in the foot'. 

You may now remove your foot from your mouth.

Your story is 8 months old, and he's not been indicted. 
Let's see if you're man enough to apologize.

The **** irony.

That was brutal.          
 

[Prospero]

Your story is 8 months old, and he's not been indicted. 
Let's see if you're man enough to apologize.

Well, let's see now, your whine is that only Republicans are getting prosecuted.  The appropriate response is that
if you are worried about Republicans getting prosecuted then you should stop electing criminals. 

So, if anyone should apologize, Golfboy, you and the Republicans should apologize for electing Donald Trump and his criminal associates. 

I mean, history confirms that in the White House, no group has committed more crimes than Republicans, noting that this chart was crafted only 1.8 years into his presidency, there have been more indictments since then, and more to come.: 



So, let's see if you are man enough to apologize
for the White House crimes of the right. 

I'll be waiting. 

 
 

[Prospero]

The **** irony.

That was brutal.        

And the response, another right winger BRUTALLY destroyed: 

viewtopic.php?p=2324132#p2324132

ROTFLMAO
 

[Redheaded Stranger]

Well, let's see now, your whine is that only Republicans are getting prosecuted.  The appropriate response is that
if you are worried about Republicans getting prosecuted then you should stop electing criminals. 

So, if anyone should apologize, Golfboy, you and the Republicans should apologize for electing Donald Trump and his criminal associates. 

I mean, history confirms that in the White House, no group has committed more crimes than Republicans, noting that this chart was crafted only 1.8 years into his presidency, there have been more indictments since then, and more to come.: 



So, let's see if you are man enough to apologize
for the White House crimes of the right. 

I'll be waiting. 

Now THIS is a cop out.

 
 

[Prospero]

You cried when I picked on a spelling error. I see you hold yourself to a different standard.

I do that, too - but I hold myself to a HIGHER standard - not a lower one. 

I do not live at Pico and La Seeyanigga.
 

Oh, so now you reveal your true colors:  you are a racist.  

I LIVED there - I do not live there. Where I live, I can have dogs and a garden without paying millions for a home. 

And I never declared myself a democrat, fruitcake. I said I was an FDR DEMOCRAT. I might as well have called myself a Whig, dummy. Your presentism knows no bounds. And you CLEARLY know jack **** about FDR, you idiot.     

Apparently you can't read. 

But what you can do is make **** up. 

Your standards are on par with a cess pool.  

FYI,  an FDR Democrat is a Democrat of a certain type.  

No FDR dem I know traffics in cheap shots and tawdry mudslinging as you do. 

Therefore, you are a phony.


 

[Prospero]

Now THIS is a cop out.

Unfortunately, there is no cure for your delusion. 

You'll just have to live with it.  
 

[FJB]

Unfortunately, there is no cure for your delusion. 

You'll just have to live with it.

how many soks do you have now shilly?

[Prospero]

Since I wouldn't let you keep ducking it, you decided to lie about it, eh, Sodomite Chaser? Okay, go ahead - tell your lies, and then I willl quote your leader in the United Anti-Sodomy Brigade, fruitcake.

Huh. Isn't that fraudulently intersting. Say more about that, pants of fire homophobe.

Well, you have used racist and bigotry language in your reply.  Congratulations. 

We now know who you are.  

So, you praise FDR, then attack him for a policy that was the prevailing attitude at the time, which is presentism, then accuse me of it?  You wouldn't have even mentioned it but for my not bringing it up. What, you are such a mental midget that you can't find your own thoughts? 

One thing is clear, you are anything but coherent.  Your reply is full of contradictions.

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No, presentist. You don't get away with dismissing your leader's anti-homo positions as the fault of his ERA, when his ERA followed the Roarin' 20s and coexisted with the Weimar Republic. Men were not more naive in those days. They saw as clearly as we do today the issues that confront humanity and society. FDR was not a victim of his time. He did not have quaint ideas. His anti-homo stance was no tic of his time period. He viewed *** as a danger to society. And you agree with him to some precise extent. Let me remember what you said... Oh, yeah. 100%.

Homophobe.

What the ****?  Your response is all over the damn place, like a squirrel on crack. You accuse me of presentism, but you're the one living in la-la land, thinking your silly ideas are modern and opposition to them is old-fashioned. Well, let me burst your bubble, genius. Libertines and their opponents have been around for ages, way before your precious "mod" era. It's not just some chronological game, it's a timeless battle that's been going on for centuries, and guess what? It's happening right now, in this oh-so-"tony" and "modern" era you love so much.

Now, you bring up the Weimar Republic, thinking it proves your point. Well, guess what? The Weimar Republic was a hotbed of libertinism, pal. They had gay periodicals, political action committees for the LGBTQ+ community, and a swinging sexual liberation that would make your head spin. But what happened next? Oh yeah, Adolf Hitler and his party-crashing buddies ruined the party for everyone.

Now, let's talk about FDR, your beloved leader. You claim his anti-homosexual positions were just a product of his time, a victim of the era. Well, let me tell you something, sunshine. FDR wasn't some clueless fool swept up by the tides of his time. No, he had his own damn principles, and he saw gays as a threat to society. And guess what? You, my friend, seem to agree with him to some extent.

But don't you dare dismiss your leader's views as just a result of his era. No, no, no. His era coexisted with the Roarin' 20s and the Weimar Republic, so don't go blaming the times for his stance. Men back then weren't naive idiots. They saw the same damn issues we see today, and they had the same clarity of mind. FDR's anti-homosexual stance was his own damn choice, based on his own damn beliefs.

So, before you go spouting off about presentism and gaslighting, get your facts straight, buddy. Presentism? That's on you. Gaslighting? That's what you're trying to do right now, twisting the narrative and making baseless accusations. Stick to the damn point and come at me with some real arguments if you want a proper discussion.

I get it now, You're rant, and word choices, clearly mark you as a gaslighter, a liar, a homophobe, a bigot, a racist and a troll.  

I got your covers pulled, and you are a text book phony.  

Now go pester someone else who has confused you with intelligence. 

 
 

[Redheaded Stranger]

Unfortunately, there is no cure for your delusion. 

You'll just have to live with it.

You're the one that got called on your ignorance and then doubled down on the stupid instead of owning it... not me.

 
 

[Cannonpointer]

And the response, another right winger BRUTALLY destroyed: 

viewtopic.php?p=2324132#p2324132

ROTFLMAO

WOWZA! What a brilliant takedown!

It's almost like you DIDN'T **** and golfboy DIDN'T expose your stupidity! WOWZA!

And it's amost like you DIDN'T present more evidence for his thesis! SHAZAAM!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxQ-Ltfs9ds
 

[Cannonpointer]

Oh, so now you reveal your true colors:  you are a racist.

Define "racist," ***-dicker.

But what you can do is make **** up.

Like when you made that claim to golfboy that a demoncrat had been indicted, and it was just made up, and rather than acknowledge error like a responsible poster, you breezed past it and doubled down stupidly?

Or like when you claimed to be a 100% FDR Democrat, supporting his policies down the line, and THEN claimed that you were a "good friend" (wink wink) of the penis puffing "community"?

No, gay boi - I'm not like you.

Your standards are on par with a cess pool.

A man is the room he is in, felcher.

FYI,  an FDR Democrat is a Democrat of a certain type.

The type that puts chinamen in camps?

No FDR dem I know traffics in cheap shots and tawdry mudslinging as you do.

But then, you don't know any. You have problems with definitions. Hell, you think girls have dicks, fruitloop. Taking YOUR definitions is something non-soys reject up front, ya retarded little girl. 
 

[Cannonpointer]

So, you praise FDR, then attack

Link?

I merely highlighted his policies and his attitudes. I did not "attack" him, you fool, as, BEING AN FDR DEMOCRAT, I agree with his positions, fruitcake.

him for a policy that was the prevailing attitude at the time,

And there is your presentism, turd.

You pretend that a man who knew his mind and knew his principles - a man who RAN AND FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGED THE COUNTRY - was the waffling victim of quaint and antiquated mores; a veritable zelig to those around him: a victim of "the times."

We all know that were he not a lionized progressive of the past, you would be dismissing him as a DWM and calling him a racist. But you think it unwise to sling **** on a founding father of american liberalism, and so you engage in tawdry presentism, embracing his wisdom where it fits your hand-me-down template and pretending the things that don't are a result of handlebar mustaches and ostrich feathers in ladies' caps - a mere fashion foible.

You're an idiot - and a presentist.

You wouldn't have even mentioned it but for my not bringing it up.

Oh, please, mister, get out of my head. How can you read me ike a book? Please stop.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, I watch you dick suckers trash the **** WESTERN CANNON and refer to its brilliant authors as DWMs, and you think me unaware of presentism, you **** fruitcake?

It's your stock in trade, fruitcake. It's what you people DO. It's ALL you people do, besides lying and projecting - which is precisely what you were doing when you ascribed YOUR practice to me, midwit.

Here, "prospero" does not prosper, but literally assumes and regurgitates (though less competently) the arguments which have defeated him as if they were his own - or SEEMS to. I trust the dear reader to be as confused by zim's hysteria as I was, and recommend that they read the twaddle for themselves on the off chance that they might glean the sense that my read and re-read failed to apprehend.

I really have no response to that insanity, fruitcake. The only thing I can agree with is that you sound like a squirrel on crack. You are quite coming apart at the seams.

You might want to ask AI to step in, Pookie Bear.

You appear as one of those fellows who comes to drain the swamp and then encounters alligators.
 
 

[Sumela]

He belongs in jail for

hiring

Pomp the Fat, Lucifer Bolton , and Screechy Haley