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shintao » 23 Jul 2014 11:16 am » wrote:It is what makes a socialist system superior to Capitalism.
Speaking of psychotics, look who shows up.


How is Socialist Greece doing, moonbat?

How is Socialist Spain doing?

Socialist France?

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Southern indep » 23 Jul 2014 11:18 am » wrote: Your list has Hong Kong as number 1.... Kinda shots on your entire thread
Not at all. You need to re-read the OP. Nine out of ten looks like a win, son.
Southern indep » 23 Jul 2014 11:18 am » wrote:Do we really need to go into how China's economy is inflated or how being a citizen in China sucks donkey balls.....
You're off script. China is no longer communist - ask hacks clemmie and company.
Southern indep » 23 Jul 2014 11:18 am » wrote:m sure your all for sucking donkey balls but the rest of us don't wanna go down that road.
Y'all's preference for boys is well established.

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RichClem » 23 Jul 2014 11:20 am » wrote:
Speaking of psychotics, look who shows up.

How is Socialist Greece doing, moonbat?

How is Socialist Spain doing?

Socialist France?
Those countries don't own the means of production, *******. Are you now employing a fourth definition?

Tell us what makes those countries "socialist," since you have your own secret language, freak.

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Southern indep » 23 Jul 2014 11:18 am » wrote: Then Singapore comes in second......
Course their economy is more free.... Their economy is based on lady boy's prostitution....
30% of their economy is owned by the government, son.

That is called, "socialism" - at least, by the dictionary.

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Cannonpointer » 23 Jul 2014 11:22 am » wrote: Those countries don't own the means of production, *******. Are you now employing a fourth definition?

Tell us what makes those countries "socialist," since you have your own secret language, freak.
The secondary definition of Socialism which I quoted and you have cut and pasted, is government controlling an economy via vast regulation.

I accept two definitions of Socialism, count 'em, 2. Government ownership and government control via extensive law and regulation.

What, when you get past one, you can't count? :\

Naah, you're just lying as usual.

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Cannonpointer » 23 Jul 2014 11:24 am » wrote: 30% of their economy is owned by the government, son.

That is called, "socialism" - at least, by the dictionary.
What about the other 70%???

You know the majority....

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RichClem » 23 Jul 2014 11:18 am » wrote: If I follow your logic on this, then every country in the world is Socialist, because every country except one is less free than Singapore.
Because the index is relative.
NO, that is your logic, which is based on a definition that is ENTIRELY made up. You have decided - on your own, with no agreement from academia, the dictionary, or anyone else - that "less free" = "more socialist." You have uncritically adopted this position, and you reflexively employ it with the expectation that everyone just has to go along.

We don't go along. You don't get to change the definition of socialism to mean, "less free," and then run around the board pretending that there is universal agreement for you entirely made-up definition. That is silly.
RichClem » 23 Jul 2014 11:18 am » wrote:Or if you refuse to acknowledge my claim about Heritage and Socialism, name one single country that is more Free Market Capitalist.


You won't agree to use the dictionary to define terms, so the challenge is inauthentic and insincere. I have already tried to get you to commit to a definition of "free market capitalist" - and was roundly attacked for my effort.
RichClem » 23 Jul 2014 11:18 am » wrote:Another request that you'll stonewall and evade.
A request made in bad faith, by a man whose definition of "free market capitalist" is no more stable than his ever-changing definition of "socialist." What we know about your definition of socialist is that an Asian doing something is capitalist, but a black man doing the same is socialist.

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Southern indep » 23 Jul 2014 11:28 am » wrote:
What about the other 70%???

You know the majority....
That's the new definition?

Let's get this straight - I want you on record: So long as the government of the United States does not acquire more than 30% of the means of production, you're cool with that? It isn't socialism?

Mind you, I am a huge proponent of sovereign wealth funds, and the Singaporean model. I just don't like *** lying about the fact that it's a socialist model of government, operating in an otherwise "free" (which, ironically, means regulated) market.

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Cannonpointer » 23 Jul 2014 11:31 am » wrote:

You won't agree to use the dictionary to define terms, so the challenge is inauthentic and insincere.
I'm very sorry that your psychosis prevents you from seeing what's obvious to any normal, sane person.

Socialism can be direct government ownership. We agree on that.

The secondary definition is:
A political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated......

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/de ... /socialism
So either accept the Oxford definition or f*** off.

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Cannonpointer » 23 Jul 2014 11:24 am » wrote: 30% of their economy is owned by the government, son.
That is called, "socialism" - at least, by the dictionary.
Wow. It's stunning how ignorant liberals are about economic systems.

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RichClem » 23 Jul 2014 11:45 am » wrote:
I'm very sorry that your psychosis prevents you from seeing what's obvious to any normal, sane person.

Socialism can be direct government ownership. We agree on that.

The secondary definition is:

So either accept the Oxford definition or f*** off.
That definition makes every country on earth socialist, retard - something you whiningly lie that I want to do. If EVERY country is socialist, then socialism in the natural estate of countries, and ought to be embraced.

Name the country that is NOT socialist, using that definition.

We'll wait. Singapore is socialist, by that definition - retard.

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golfboy » 23 Jul 2014 12:06 pm » wrote: Wow. It's stunning how ignorant liberals are about economic systems.
Brilliant refutation, mini-me. Keep bailing - daddy is almost saved. See if you can get rid of his quotes - that'll be key to victory.

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Cannonpointer » 23 Jul 2014 11:35 am » wrote:
That's the new definition?

Let's get this straight - I want you on record: So long as the government of the United States does not acquire more than 30% of the means of production, you're cool with that? It isn't socialism?

Mind you, I am a huge proponent of sovereign wealth funds, and the Singaporean model. I just don't like *** lying about the fact that it's a socialist model of government, operating in an otherwise "free" (which, ironically, means regulated) market.
Southern Indep disappeared - gone with the wind. You girls are gonna have to stand alone - only two, against the overwhelming force of one.

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RichClem » 23 Jul 2014 11:20 am » wrote: Speaking of psychotics, look who shows up.

How is Socialist Greece doing, moonbat?

How is Socialist Spain doing?

Socialist France?
Speaking of pedophiles, and one respond with a post~~ You dumb ****, Greece is a capitalist nation. Private schooling huh?? Further dumb ****, why worry about Spain or France? Worry about the greatest **** capitalist failure in the entire Universe you are **** in. What a dumb **** to even raise a question about another country. LMAO!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :die: :die: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Greece, ... was always a Capitalist state, functioning under the rules of free market economy.
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RichClem » 23 Jul 2014 11:26 am » wrote: The secondary definition of Socialism which I quoted and you have cut and pasted, is government controlling an economy via vast regulation.

I accept two definitions of Socialism, count 'em, 2. Government ownership and government control via extensive law and regulation.

What, when you get past one, you can't count? :\

Naah, you're just lying as usual.
No you dumb ****, that is capitalism!!! The US government owns your property dumb ****, you only rent it when you are paying taxes on it. Stop paying and they will take it away from you ****~~~
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golfboy » 23 Jul 2014 12:06 pm » wrote: Wow. It's stunning how ignorant liberals are about economic systems.
Amazing what a dumb **** you are about economic systems. How do you get by, on Jesus?? Take Lunarchit there claiming Greece is a socialist country!! Defies the imagination!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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shintao » 23 Jul 2014 12:38 pm » wrote: Amazing what a dumb **** you are about economic systems. How do you get by, on Jesus?? Take Lunarchit there claiming Greece is a socialist country!! Defies the imagination!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Yes, Greece and Spain are socialist, and Singapore - which owns 30% of the market - is not. Never mind that Obie putting two nickels and a quarter into GM was a what?

A what?


A SOCIALIST! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

These homos have let Heritage paint them into ANOTHER corner. They'll never learn. :rofl:

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Cannonpointer » 23 Jul 2014 12:49 pm » wrote:
Yes, Greece and Spain are socialist, and Singapore - which owns 30% of the market - is not. Never mind that Obie putting two nickels and a quarter into GM was a what?

A what?

A SOCIALIST! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

These homos have let Heritage paint them into ANOTHER corner. They'll never learn. :rofl:
^^ This moron claims the Singapore government "owns" 30% of the market, and somehow, this makes their system of government "socialist".
The absolute ignorance is stunning. I'm amazed this idiot can remember to breathe without being told.

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Cannonpointer » 23 Jul 2014 12:09 pm » wrote: That definition makes every country on earth socialist, retard - something you whiningly lie that I want to do. If EVERY country is socialist, then socialism in the natural estate of countries, and ought to be embraced.

Name the country that is NOT socialist, using that definition.

We'll wait. Singapore is socialist, by that definition - retard.
Or if a troll wants to be completely and utterly brainless, every country is Capitalist, even Communist countries, because they allow at least a small degree of Capitalism.

Leading to my point about the Heritage Index of Freedom being relative.

Countries differ in the degree to which they are Socialist or Capitalist. That is indisputable. The key is to properly rank them, which Heritage does better than any other I've seen.

Leading to the obvious and simple conclusion that by the two definitions we've established, the countries ranked highest on the index are the least Socialist.

But you're a troll and will find some new lies to tell or bulls*** to spew. :\

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golfboy » 23 Jul 2014 12:53 pm » wrote: ^^ This moron claims the Singapore government "owns" 30% of the market, and somehow, this makes their system of government "socialist".
The absolute ignorance is stunning. I'm amazed this idiot can remember to breathe without being told.
Goofy trying to say something without knowing what the **** he is bleating about, like the typical con sheeple. Got something to say *******, or are you here to suck a bucket of Liberal ****? :die: :die:

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