If you have a complaint with how the economists of the Heritage Foundation rank the countries, perhaps you should file a formal grievance. I'm sure they'll take you just as seriously as we have!Cannonpointer » 29 Jul 2014 5:41 am » wrote:There it is.^
That is their only answer. Don't use sense - just listen "think tank" publicists who are paid not for their "thinking" but for the narratives their thinking generates.
He cannot answer. In truth, Heritage cannot either - the truth never loses to a lie in a fair fight.. But their paymasters own the media, so their voice is heard over a megaphone and mine is heard by a paltry few who still can read, thanks to what Wall Steet has instructed its puppets to do to our once First World education system.
They represent mainstream republicanism. You're not gonna find a hundred in the whole damned country who'll think of Heritage as PR flaks or who'll unconflate capitalism and the free markets capitalism attacks at gunpoint. Heritage says a police state is free - it's free.Annoyed Liberall » 29 Jul 2014 7:33 am » wrote:Great OP.
But, look at the neocons who are blindly supporting Heritage.
Not the cream of the crop by any standards.
Okay, fine.Str8tEdge » 29 Jul 2014 5:46 am » wrote: I cheat on my wife with men, and took a graveyard shift job to avoid heterosexual intercourse.
This is what we are moving towards and it should be resisted at all costs. I do not agree that capitalism and free market are as different as the article states but the more government gets involved in it the worse it is for everyone except for those with enough money/power to influence the governement itself. I am afraid we are already pretty close to a government of the lobbyists, for the lobbyists, and by the lobbyists.Authoritarian capitalism (the less regulation upon it, the more authoritarian it becomes) relies on the government gun to foist itself on populations.
The Heritage Foundation ranked it as second freest economy on Earth and a few contards here are grabbing their ankles and biting pillows with glee over it.Southern indep » 29 Jul 2014 9:13 am » wrote:All this on Singapore **** because it was #2 on your socialist countries list?
Cannonpointer » 29 Jul 2014 5:25 am » wrote:Capitalism did not invent the free market. Indeed, it is the sworn enemy of it. Free markets existed long before Adam Smith was born. Capitalism is an economic model run by employees, on the capital of absentee owners - capital that could not be agglomerated except by exchanges licensed and regulated by government. FREE ENTERPRISE is an economic model run by owner-investors who risk their OWN capital with no assistance from government.
Authoritarian capitalism (the less regulation upon it, the more authoritarian it becomes) relies on the government gun to foist itself on populations.
Left to their own devices, South and Central Americans vote for a free market, rather than capitalism.
Morales is a leftist, moonbat, even according to Wiki.But the capitalists pretend that free markets are "socialism," and they get their servants in our government to topple elected governments and force authoritarian capitalism on their populations. A recent example of capitalist over-reach occurred in Bolivia, where Bechtel cornered the market on WATER by way of the government gun. Bechtel's wholly owned puppet government simply made a law declaring Bechtel owner of every drop of the stuff, making it a crime for a peasant to put out a rain barrel or drink from a creek. The result was a popular tide in favor of a Coca farmer named Evo Morales, whom election riggers failed to keep from office, and who has implemented free markets - or, "instituted a brutal socialist regime with no respect for private property," in neocon parlance.Our country would not have let this go unpunished, but for two land wars in Asia occupying its attention.[/size]
Singapore is authoritarian, so it almost certainly rigs the system to a considerable degree in favor of the elites, but it went from dirt poor to prosperous, even for the average citizen.The folks singing Singapore's praises present themselves as "conservatives." But they did not even LOOK at capitalism's effect on their latest, greatest Shangri La's human population before festooning a brutal slave pit with the mantle of freedom. Conservatives look before they leap; reactionaries and progressives leap before they look.
I again express my regret for your deepening psychosis.The reactionary neocons on this board wil hee haw and gee gaw and slap their knees and shout hosanna for the stupidest, least-vetted **** ideas imaginable, and still pretend to be conservatives. REAL conservatives - a rare bird these days - are against rashly signing off on ANY new idea, no matter how pleasantly-wrapped and spun by professional ad-men hired to serve the interests of capital and subvert the interests of ordinary workers. Thoughtful and methodical examination of ANY policy change is in the conservative wheel house - pretty much IS the conservative wheel house. Hoo-rahing for any proposition Heritage packages for the Sunday chats is the province of neocon stooges, not conservatives. Genuine Conservatism is ANY nation's necessary steadying hand, without which the ship of state is likely to run aground.
Bulls***. They rebelled against both the lawless authority of the Crown, against the special favors it granted by royal fiat and against Crony Capitalism, which you dishonestly label "Capitalism."That's why the founders picked the British East India Company's vessel as their target in the Boston Tea Party: Because they understood that their fight was against that corrosive capitalist engine as much as it was against the British Crown, and that their historical imperative was to free their nation's market from that anti-human machine.
I advocate both as models of hugely important, but partial reform, not as the ultimate goal, which is fully free Capitalism.The debunked pretense that capitalism desires or even tolerates free markets is given the lie by the Singapores and the Chiles of this world. The "freer" capital, the more the PEOPLE are enslaved.
There's the kiss of death.Annoyed Liberall » 29 Jul 2014 7:33 am » wrote:Great OP.
"Blindly?" I support it because from decades of reading its publications, I've found it to be factually accurate and broadly fair.But, look at the neocons who are blindly supporting Heritage.
Not the cream of the crop by any standards.
But I have and you haven't addressed any of it.RichClem » 29 Jul 2014 9:28 am » wrote: Singapore isn't a "police state," psycho.
And I've quoted nothing from Heritage about its political system, nor have I seen you.
So you're lying, as usual.
Yes I have, many times. That's just the casual lie and smear that just rolls of your forked tongue.Annoyed Liberall » 29 Jul 2014 9:39 am » wrote: But I have and you haven't addressed any of it.
Quote the conservatives who laugh at me. I in fact have been supported by almost every single conservative who's expressed an opoinion.Look, it's clear to the real conservatives here that you are not one of them. They laugh at you. And frankly, I lose all respect for anyone here who agrees with your ridiculous ranting.
Well Singapore is a **** hole along with China...RichClem » 29 Jul 2014 9:27 am » wrote: There's the kiss of death.
"Blindly?" I support it because from decades of reading its publications, I've found it to be factually accurate and broadly fair.
You're complimenting a lying, raving psychotic. I guess that makes you "the cream of the crop?"
No, you haven't liar.RichClem » 29 Jul 2014 9:48 am » wrote: Yes I have, many times. That's just the casual lie and smear that just rolls of your forked tongue.
Quote the conservatives who laugh at me. I in fact have been supported by almost every single conservative who's expressed an opoinion.
And who cares who you respect? You're a silly twit.
Hey, where are all the "slaves" you claim are in Singapore.Cannonpointer » 29 Jul 2014 5:25 am » wrote:A gaggle of impressionable progressives recently went on a Grateful Dead style fan-girl tour of the web, singling praise and glory to Singapore's "economic freedom" - "It's the second freest on EARTH," they jubilated.
I have provided it many, many times. But you stonewall and evade.RichClem » 29 Jul 2014 9:59 am » wrote: So like almost everyone on your side, when asked to provide evidence, you refuse and lie.
Just as I expected.
Users browsing this forum: Annoyed Liberall, Beekeeper, Buck Naked, Buffalo, Cannonpointer, Chiseler151, ConsRule, DeplorablePatriot, FJB, FOS, golfboy, Goodgrief, Google [Bot], Google Feedfetcher, Hank, Ike Bana, Jantje_Smit, jefftec, jerra b, Kobia2, Majik, Makallbuks, Mirabeau, Monderegal, Mr. 7, Mrkelly, NEILCAR, neue regel, Nostradamus' omh, OdeToJoy, PaperLi [Bot], Pastafarian, Pastor Blast, PhiloBeddo, RebelGator, roadkill, ROG62, ScottMon, Semrush [Bot], SJConspirator, Skans, sooted up Cyndi, Squatchman, Steve Jobs [Bot], sunburn, Tempest62, Trumprules, Twitter [Bot], Vegas, walkingstick, Warcok, WindyCocoa, Xavier_Onassis, Z09, Zeets2 and 1 guest