Chris Christies Press Conference Claims Don't Add Up

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Posted by Misty
  26,511 09 Jan 2014, 4:32 pm

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golfboy » 09 Jan 2014 3:16 pm wrote:
I'm sorry, can you quote the laws broken in this "real scandal" of "real crimes"?

It is illegal for public assets to be used for a political purpose.
The executive director of the Port Authority said violations of not only state but federal law have occurred.
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Posted by Misty
  26,511 09 Jan 2014, 5:56 pm

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golfboy » 09 Jan 2014 3:34 pm wrote:
Misty » 09 Jan 2014 3:32 pm wrote:
It is illegal for public assets to be used for a political purpose.
The executive director of the Port Authority said violations of not only state but federal law have occurred.

The executive director of the Port Authority is not a law enforcement position, it is a political one.
Did you notice he cited no laws which were violated?


You don't have to be law enforcement to know that it is illegal to use public assets for political purposes.
Don't worry, I'm sure this investigation has only just begun.
You don't decide which laws were broken before you investigate, you investigate to find out which laws if any were broken.

Golfboy: And did you hold the same position when the IRS was used to target people for political purposes.
Or when the Obama Administration closed the national parks and monuments, for political purposes?
Or when they sent public assets out to lie about what happened in Benghazi?


1. Can you cite the specific laws that were broken, since that seems to be your criteria?
Imagine if e-mails had surfaced out of the President's Chief Of Staff's office ordering the IRS to target Conservative groups.
You guys would have been screaming for Obama's head on a platter.

2. You mean when Republicans shut down the government?

3. Are you referring to Susan Rice as a 'public asset'?
And still sticking with the story that she was told to lie?
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Posted by Misty
  26,511 09 Jan 2014, 8:39 pm

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Endoscopy » 09 Jan 2014 4:02 pm wrote:
Misty » 09 Jan 2014 3:32 pm wrote:
It is illegal for public assets to be used for a political purpose.

you are indicting Obama with that statement. He uses the federal agencies to attack Republicans and Tea party people. But you progressives keep your head in the sand over that.

When exactly was it proven that Obama ordered anyone at the IRS to attack Republicans and Tea Party people?
I know Issa tried, but he came up empty.

Ironic that when it comes to Obama, you don't need no stinkin' proof.
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Posted by Misty
  26,511 09 Jan 2014, 10:45 pm

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skews13 » 09 Jan 2014 4:13 pm wrote:
Misty » 09 Jan 2014 3:32 pm wrote:
golfboy » 09 Jan 2014 3:16 pm wrote:
I'm sorry, can you quote the laws broken in this "real scandal" of "real crimes"?

It is illegal for public assets to be used for a political purpose.
The executive director of the Port Authority said violations of not only state but federal law have occurred.


Yep, the bridge is a connector between two states, which means interstate commerce. The real crimes to me though is the delay of emergency response vehicles, and putting children on school buses in harms way. These are not petty instances of finger pointing.


I would love to know the name of the person who found it funny that school kids were stuck on those buses for hours.

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Posted by Misty
  26,511 09 Jan 2014, 10:52 pm

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golfboy » 09 Jan 2014 3:16 pm wrote:
skews13 » 09 Jan 2014 3:13 pm wrote:
Hell no. Benghazi is trumped up bullshit that has been totally debunked as the bullshit that it is.
This is a real scandal, with real evidence, pointing to real players, that committed real crimes.

I'm sorry, can you quote the laws broken in this "real scandal" of "real crimes"?
Bet you can't.


Can you quote the laws broken in the IRS and Benghazi so-called scandals?
What about Park-Gate, since you seem so concerned about the closing of the National Parks?
No, you can't and none of you ever do.

Double standard much?
If you can't quote which laws were broken in all of these so-called scandals, then stop citing them.

What has been the outcome of all of Issa's dog and pony shows?
Nothing, but you continue to act as if he found Obama guilty of all sorts of things, and you keep spitting out IRS and Benghazi as if that means something.
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Posted by Misty
  26,511 10 Jan 2014, 1:50 pm

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golfboy » 10 Jan 2014 7:53 am wrote:
Skeptic » 10 Jan 2014 7:51 am wrote:
Already posted a link showing as much, goofball.

Your post is nothing but spin. The IRS admitted they targeted TEA Party groups, and people were fired over it.
Sorry.

Was it ever shown that an order to target Tea Party groups came from the White House?
Darrell Issa said he had proof that it did, then he said, "I’ve never said it came out of the office of the President or his campaign."
But you right wingers still run with his lie.

And yes, progressive groups were targeted as well.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/25/us/politics/documents-show-liberals-in-irs-dragnet.html?_r=0
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Posted by Misty
  26,511 10 Jan 2014, 2:18 pm

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RichClem » 10 Jan 2014 1:07 pm wrote:
Misty » 10 Jan 2014 12:50 pm wrote:
Was it ever shown that an order to target Tea Party groups came from the White House?

Well gosh, I suppose it's just a coincidence that an endless succession of lies were told and that a top Obama official was tied to the scandal.

Who in the WH was tied to that 'scandal'?

Misty: And yes, progressive groups were targeted as well.

Clem: No, a very, very few were given scrutiny, but they were not targeted and few if any were denied status, as 100's of conservative groups were.
But as usual, you're doing a wonderful job of telling Democrat Talking Point Lies. :loco:

Hundreds of Conservative groups were denied tax exempt status?

I realize that I'd just be wasting my time if I asked you to prove that, right Puss?
You don't ever need to prove anything you say, do you?
You just pull statements like that out of your ass, and say they're true because you say they're true.

A quick Google search shows that the only source that says that 'hundreds' of Conservative groups were denied (and/or delayed in getting) tax exempt status is WorldNutDaily. Is that your source Kitten?

Maybe I need to start a new thread about all of your lies, like I had at the old forum.
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Posted by Misty
  26,511 10 Jan 2014, 2:28 pm

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contracoup » 10 Jan 2014 1:27 pm wrote:
Hundreds of Conservative groups were denied tax exempt status?

Name one.

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You know Clem doesn't work that way.
He'll say that he's cited many sources in the past.
And he won't bother citing them again, because we Libs will just ignore them anyway.
That's his M.O.

RichClem » 10 Jan 2014 1:27 pm wrote:
I started a thread filled with sources to back up my claims.
But as usual, you went blind and somehow never managed to see a single one of them.


Do I know this man or what?
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Posted by Misty
  26,511 10 Jan 2014, 2:35 pm

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RichClem » 10 Jan 2014 1:27 pm wrote:
I started a thread filled with sources to back up my claims.

So where is this mysterious thread Pumpkin, and what is it called?
Is it here on this forum?
Is it on the old forum. because if it is, then you need to cite a new source here.

Please provide us with a source to back up your statement that 'hundreds of Conservative/Tea Party groups were denied tax exempt status by the IRS.'
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Posted by Misty
  26,511 10 Jan 2014, 2:42 pm

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RichClem » 10 Jan 2014 1:39 pm wrote:
Misty » 10 Jan 2014 1:35 pm wrote:
RichClem » 10 Jan 2014 1:27 pm wrote:
I started a thread filled with sources to back up my claims.


So where is this mysterious thread Pumpkin, and what is it called?
Is it here on this forum?
Is it on the old forum. because if it is, then you need to cite a new source here.

Please provide us with a source to back up your statement that 'hundreds of Conservative/Tea Party groups were denied tax exempt status by the IRS.'


I'm honestly afraid to, because every time I cite an important fact from a valid source, you go blind.

So until you consult a doctor, f*** off. :)

So IOW there is no such thread. Thought so.
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