Finally the Ukrainian/Clinton Investigation is Complete

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  9,269 17 Jul 2017, 7:22 am

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'Schiff: Washington Democrats Meeting with Ukrainian Officials for Trump Dirt Would Have Been 'Inappropriate'



Finally that exhaustive investigation is over.


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  12,711 17 Jul 2017, 8:53 am

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They are probably afraid the key witnesses will commit suicide.
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Posted by Misty
  25,088 17 Jul 2017, 12:34 pm

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roadkill » 17 Jul 2017 7:22 am wrote:
'Schiff: Washington Democrats Meeting with Ukrainian Officials for Trump Dirt Would Have Been 'Inappropriate'
Finally that exhaustive investigation is over.
Let's move on.

Who in the Clinton campaign met with anyone in the Ukrainian gov't to receive dirt on The Terror of Twitter Chelsea? Her husband? John Podesta?

I get that this Ukrainian thing is the new talking point, but it falls flat.
First of all it was not nearly the same thing.

It was a low level operative (consultant) at the DNC who took it upon herself to look into Paul Manafort's work with the pro-Russian Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych.

It was not the top people in the Clinton campaign meeting with people who said they were part of the Ukraine government's support for her.

"Russia’s effort was personally directed by Russian President Vladimir Putin (and) involved the country’s military and foreign intelligence services," the article said. "There’s little evidence of such a top-down effort by Ukraine."

So, according to American intelligence agencies, the Kremlin shaped and directed the email hacking of Democrats and subsequent distribution. In contrast, a variety of actors on the Ukrainian side responded to American queries and provided public documents.

Which leads to the other big distinction: The Russians got their materials through cyber-attacks, while the only telling document revealed by a Ukrainian lawmaker was the product of an official investigation.

"There’s a difference between dealing with the embassy and dealing with a covert intelligence operation," Wittes said.

(Benjamin Wittes, editor of Lawfare blog.)

"Are you dealing with government records, or are you dealing in stolen dirt?"

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  12,711 17 Jul 2017, 1:24 pm

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Misty » 17 Jul 2017 12:34 pm wrote:
roadkill » 17 Jul 2017 7:22 am wrote:
'Schiff: Washington Democrats Meeting with Ukrainian Officials for Trump Dirt Would Have Been 'Inappropriate'
Finally that exhaustive investigation is over.
Let's move on.

Who in the Clinton campaign met with anyone in the Ukrainian gov't to receive dirt on The Terror of Twitter Chelsea? Her husband? John Podesta?

I get that this Ukrainian thing is the new talking point, but it falls flat.
First of all it was not nearly the same thing.

It was a low level operative (consultant) at the DNC who took it upon herself to look into Paul Manafort's work with the pro-Russian Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych.

It was not the top people in the Clinton campaign meeting with people who said they were part of the Ukraine government's support for her.

"Russia’s effort was personally directed by Russian President Vladimir Putin (and) involved the country’s military and foreign intelligence services," the article said. "There’s little evidence of such a top-down effort by Ukraine."

So, according to American intelligence agencies, the Kremlin shaped and directed the email hacking of Democrats and subsequent distribution. In contrast, a variety of actors on the Ukrainian side responded to American queries and provided public documents.

Which leads to the other big distinction: The Russians got their materials through cyber-attacks, while the only telling document revealed by a Ukrainian lawmaker was the product of an official investigation.

"There’s a difference between dealing with the embassy and dealing with a covert intelligence operation," Wittes said.

(Benjamin Wittes, editor of Lawfare blog.)

"Are you dealing with government records, or are you dealing in stolen dirt?"

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... elped-tru/


And here is the loinfo diversion. You have multiple threads, filled with loinfo blather, dedicated to this.
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  12,866 17 Jul 2017, 1:29 pm

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Huey » 17 Jul 2017 1:24 pm wrote:
Misty » 17 Jul 2017 12:34 pm wrote:
roadkill » 17 Jul 2017 7:22 am wrote:
'Schiff: Washington Democrats Meeting with Ukrainian Officials for Trump Dirt Would Have Been 'Inappropriate'
Finally that exhaustive investigation is over.
Let's move on.

Who in the Clinton campaign met with anyone in the Ukrainian gov't to receive dirt on The Terror of Twitter Chelsea? Her husband? John Podesta?

I get that this Ukrainian thing is the new talking point, but it falls flat.
First of all it was not nearly the same thing.

It was a low level operative (consultant) at the DNC who took it upon herself to look into Paul Manafort's work with the pro-Russian Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych.

It was not the top people in the Clinton campaign meeting with people who said they were part of the Ukraine government's support for her.

"Russia’s effort was personally directed by Russian President Vladimir Putin (and) involved the country’s military and foreign intelligence services," the article said. "There’s little evidence of such a top-down effort by Ukraine."

So, according to American intelligence agencies, the Kremlin shaped and directed the email hacking of Democrats and subsequent distribution. In contrast, a variety of actors on the Ukrainian side responded to American queries and provided public documents.

Which leads to the other big distinction: The Russians got their materials through cyber-attacks, while the only telling document revealed by a Ukrainian lawmaker was the product of an official investigation.

"There’s a difference between dealing with the embassy and dealing with a covert intelligence operation," Wittes said.

(Benjamin Wittes, editor of Lawfare blog.)

"Are you dealing with government records, or are you dealing in stolen dirt?"

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... elped-tru/


And here is the loinfo diversion. You have multiple threads, filled with loinfo blather, dedicated to this.


Look in the mirror, basement dweller loinfo.
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  12,711 17 Jul 2017, 1:32 pm

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CanuckleSandwich » 17 Jul 2017 1:29 pm wrote:
Huey » 17 Jul 2017 1:24 pm wrote:
Misty » 17 Jul 2017 12:34 pm wrote:
Who in the Clinton campaign met with anyone in the Ukrainian gov't to receive dirt on The Terror of Twitter Chelsea? Her husband? John Podesta?

I get that this Ukrainian thing is the new talking point, but it falls flat.
First of all it was not nearly the same thing.

It was a low level operative (consultant) at the DNC who took it upon herself to look into Paul Manafort's work with the pro-Russian Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych.

It was not the top people in the Clinton campaign meeting with people who said they were part of the Ukraine government's support for her.



And here is the loinfo diversion. You have multiple threads, filled with loinfo blather, dedicated to this.


Look in the mirror, basement dweller loinfo.



Sorry. I have a two story home, no basement.
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Huey » 17 Jul 2017 1:32 pm wrote:
CanuckleSandwich » 17 Jul 2017 1:29 pm wrote:
Huey » 17 Jul 2017 1:24 pm wrote:

And here is the loinfo diversion. You have multiple threads, filled with loinfo blather, dedicated to this.


Look in the mirror, basement dweller loinfo.


Sorry. I have a two story home, no basement.


Then you reside in the crawl space, loinfo.
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  10,710 17 Jul 2017, 2:21 pm

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Misty » 17 Jul 2017 12:34 pm wrote:
Who in the Clinton campaign met with anyone in the Ukrainian gov't to receive dirt on The Terror of Twitter Chelsea? Her husband? John Podesta?

I get that this Ukrainian thing is the new talking point, but it falls flat.
First of all it was not nearly the same thing.

It was a low level operative (consultant) at the DNC who took it upon herself to look into Paul Manafort's work with the pro-Russian Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych.

It was not the top people in the Clinton campaign meeting with people who said they were part of the Ukraine government's support for her.


Yes, as accomplished Beltway criminals, the Clinton's are smart enough to use cut outs, but the scandal is essentially the same.

The Clinton campaign with the acquiescence of top Clinton's colluded with Ukraine, something you claim is a crime.

Have there been indictments? Has anyone in the press demanded them? Speculated about possible indictments?

No?

Then you were lying, as usual.
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Posted by Stinky McPeterson
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Misty » 17 Jul 2017 12:34 pm wrote:
Who in the Clinton campaign met with anyone in the Ukrainian gov't to receive dirt on The Terror of Twitter Chelsea? Her husband? John Podesta?

I get that this Ukrainian thing is the new talking point, but it falls flat.
First of all it was not nearly the same thing.

It was a low level operative (consultant) at the DNC who took it upon herself to look into Paul Manafort's work with the pro-Russian Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych.

It was not the top people in the Clinton campaign meeting with people who said they were part of the Ukraine government's support for her.



you should have a comma between twitter and chelsea
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