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I remember having debates against anarchists years ago (on other political forums).

There are 2 categories of them -

Category 1 is your typical communist-type anarchist who imagines once we abolish the state, we can also abolish "private property" (which is their ultimate goal - everything along the way like rioting/looting is to serve the cause of communist-anarchism) and then we can all live in a wonderful utopia where everyone is equal.

They differ from Marxists in the sense that adherents to Marxism advocate seizing control of the state, which can then be used to establish a "socialist society," and finally socialism will (supposedly) pave the way toward communism.

Category 2 comprises of "free market anarchists" - those who support free enterprise like buying and selling labor/goods/services but strongly oppose state power AS WELL AS CORPORATE MONOPOLY. The capitalized part is key because it separates FMAs from libertardians.

Although I am not a "free market anarchist," I have found that FMAs have disseminated many useful ideas (many of them advocate getting rid of the patent/IP monopoly, the banker monopoly on "credit creation," the railroad monopoly, etc.). I strongly advocate IP reform (drastically lower the duration of IPs - I wouldn't go as far as abolishing IPs altogether) mostly because I've been introduced to their ideas.

I strongly believe Category 2 anarchists are WHAT LIBERTARIANS WOULD VERY CLOSELY RESEMBLE if your typical modern day libertardian had 2 brain cells to rub together instead of fellating Wall St all day long and pretending that amounts to "FREEDUMB." Image   :drool:   :drool:  

Unfortunately all anarchists are getting lumped together in Category 1, which obscures the heterogeneous nature of their philosophy.
 
 

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All theater... Nothing but.

Setting up a 1960's commune . . . but now with armed guards? And broken glass, trash, lots of urine, I'm sure.

There's our example to emulate across the country.  :roll:  

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Well your category 1 anarchists are at work again...


https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/12 ... 1586441218
72 hours after the establishment of the #CapitalHillAutonomousZone, there are apparently already food shortages.
:LOL:   :LOL:   :LOL:  

https://twitter.com/The_Ricky_D/status/ ... 21/photo/1
 The far-left took control of six blocks of Seattle, declared it separate from the United States, and the first thing they do is create strict borders to keep specific people out.
:LOL:   :LOL:   :LOL:   :LOL:   :LOL:   :LOL:   :LOL:   :LOL:  


 

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deezershoove » 11 Jun 2020, 7:33 am » wrote: All theater... Nothing but.

Setting up a 1960's commune . . . but now with armed guards? And broken glass, trash, lots of urine, I'm sure.

There's our example to emulate across the country.  Image
Oh well, at least we get to see a "communist-anarchist" experiment in live-action.

Should be entertaining.

Just waiting for them to implement the equivalent of Lenin's NEP.
 
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Polar1ty » 11 Jun 2020, 12:18 pm » wrote: Oh well, at least we get to see a "communist-anarchist" experiment in live-action.

Should be entertaining.

Will you go calm pee pee down and talk money! HURRY

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And here's the funniest part, tweeted by an anarchist herself -

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/12 ... 18/photo/1
the homeles [sic] people we invited [to the autonomous zone] took away all the food
Yes, dear, it's almost like we have PRICES and MARKETS for a reason - and it's not to "oppress the homeless." :rolleyes:  

Congrats on learning one of the most basic tenets of Economics 1, which you probably still think is just "corporate propaganda."
 

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sootedupCyndi » 11 Jun 2020, 12:19 pm » wrote: Will you go calm pee pee down and talk money! HURRY

NO! DON'T! :x   :x   :x  

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...agents provocateurs or 'anarchists'?... dweebzer's and cyndi's fake news say it's the anarchists....  ;)  

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peepee » 11 Jun 2020, 12:50 pm » wrote: ...agents provocateurs or 'anarchists'?... dweebzer's and cyndi's fake news say it's the anarchists....  Image

Hoodlums! That simple. well maybe not. But it fits. :\  

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peepee » 11 Jun 2020, 12:50 pm » wrote: ...agents provocateurs or 'anarchists'?... dweebzer's and cyndi's fake news say it's the anarchists....  Image
They are legitimate anarchists, lol.
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Polar1ty » 11 Jun 2020, 12:58 pm » wrote: They are legitimate anarchists, lol.

...all the people i know who call themselves 'anarchists' may be misguided/ignorant but they are very very peaceful, truthful...

...,on the other hand, government agents tend to be much much more violent, untruthful, hateful, stooooooooooopid...


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peepee » 11 Jun 2020, 1:08 pm » wrote: ...all the people i know who call themselves 'anarchists' may be misguided/ignorant but they are very very peaceful, truthful...

...,on the other hand, government agents tend to be much much more violent, untruthful, hateful, stooooooooooopid...
I believe you are talking about a SUBSET of anarchists, not "anarchists" as a whole. These people are indeed anarchists. The anarchists you refer to are of a different variety, but they all call themselves "anarchists."

I made this distinction in post #2 in this thread (referring to Category 1/Category 2 anarchists).

Anarchists of the Category 1 variety fought alongside the communists, socialists, and republicans in the Spanish Civil War (against the monarchists/reactionaries/fascists).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism ... _Civil_War

They are definitely not peaceful, lol.
 
 
 
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Isabel » 11 Jun 2020, 1:15 pm » wrote: What does your thread title say "Antifa"?
You mean "Why," not "What?"

Because Antifa are a subset of anarchists, and Antifa are the group largely responsible for the riots/protests. They are heavily involved in the establishment of the CHAZ, which is based off the communist-anarchist political philosophy.
 

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Polar1ty » 11 Jun 2020, 1:20 pm » wrote: You mean "Why," not "What?"
 
Cling to a typo all you like.

YOU:    Because Antifa are a subset of anarchists,

Prove it.

YOU:   and Antifa are the group largely responsible for the riots/protests.

Prove it.

YOU:   They are heavily involved in the establishment of the CHAZ,

Prove it.

YOU:   which is based off the communist-anarchist political philosophy.

Prove it.

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Isabel » 11 Jun 2020, 1:25 pm » wrote: Cling to a typo all you like.

YOU:    Because Antifa are a subset of anarchists,

Prove it.

YOU:   and Antifa are the group largely responsible for the riots/protests.

Prove it.

YOU:   They are heavily involved in the establishment of the CHAZ,

Prove it.

YOU:   which is based off the communist-anarchist political philosophy.

Prove it.
I'm trying to determine what your IQ is, because you can simply Google everything I said if you were serious about learning, but instead you demand all the answers in a *******, passive-aggressive manner.

If you're asking me to prove that "Antifa are a subset of anarchists," then it's obvious you know nothing and should not bother confronting me.

No, I'm not going to waste time educating you on every subject under the sun. Have a nice day.
 

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Oh my **** god.

Not only could you have learned the roots/history of Antifa in about 3 minutes, but then you ALSO asked me to "prove" that the CHAZ is based off anarchist-communist ('left-wing" anarchist) ideology.

Do you know what a commune is? Do you know which political group(s) are most affiliated with communes? (Hint: It's not conservatives or liberals)

Please educate yourself on basics.
 
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Polar1ty » 11 Jun 2020, 1:31 pm » wrote: I'm trying to determine what your IQ is


 
Aim low
 

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Polar1ty » 11 Jun 2020, 1:31 pm » wrote: I'm trying to determine what your IQ is, because you can simply Google everything I said if you were serious about learning, but instead you demand all the answers in a *******, passive-aggressive manner.
So you can't support ANY of the things you claimed?
Not even ONE? 

YOU:    If you're asking me to prove that "Antifa are a subset of anarchists," then it's obvious you know nothing and should not bother confronting me

I'm telling you to support the things you spout..  The fact that you instantly launched into this panicky spitting and snarling tells me that you are full of **** .

YOU:    No, I'm not going to waste time educating you on every subject under the sun. Have a nice day.

Buh-bye now, liar.
 

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