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Is it just me, or does each new revelation of what Trump's maladministration was up to only further reveals what America would've become under his authoritarian thumb, and what we may YET become should he and his right winged GOP devotees manage to seize control AGAIN?

A secretive Pentagon program that started on Trump's last day in office just ended. The mystery has not.

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B.See » 11 Sep 2021, 10:08 pm » wrote: Is it just me, or does each new revelation of what Trump's maladministration was up to only further reveals what America would've become under his authoritarian thumb, and what we may YET become should he and his right winged GOP devotees manage to seize control AGAIN?

A secretive Pentagon program that started on Trump's last day in office just ended. The mystery has not.
The article doesn't say what Trump was up to.... Do you know what he was up to?
 

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No, but judging from what was disclosed, learned, found out from other recent revelations he couldn't have been up to much good:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/09/politics ... index.html
'We have a conspiracy': Ex-federal prosecutor connects the dots after new Trump DOJ revelations

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B.See » 11 Sep 2021, 10:52 pm » wrote: No, but judging from what was disclosed, learned, found out from other recent revelations he couldn't have been up to much good:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/09/politics ... index.html
'We have a conspiracy': Ex-federal prosecutor connects the dots after new Trump DOJ revelations
Seems like all you have is a bunch of opinions.
 

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Cedar » 12 Sep 2021, 2:15 am » wrote: Seems like all you have is a bunch of opinions.
B. See's "judgement" is proof enough...  Get with it, for Christ's sake.


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B.See » 11 Sep 2021, 10:08 pm » wrote: Is it just me, or does each new revelation of what Trump's maladministration was up to only further reveals...
No, that isn't just you....

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Jantje_Smit » 12 Sep 2021, 4:47 am » wrote: No, that isn't just you....

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Squatchman » 12 Sep 2021, 4:51 am » wrote:    They say you snowflakes can cure your TDS with horse dewormer and pool cleaner.
They say you snowflakes don't have a sense of humour and can only do pathetic comebacks....

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B.See » 11 Sep 2021, 10:08 pm » wrote: Is it just me, or does each new revelation of what Trump's maladministration was up to only further reveals what America would've become under his authoritarian thumb, and what we may YET become should he and his right winged GOP devotees manage to seize control AGAIN?

A secretive Pentagon program that started on Trump's last day in office just ended. The mystery has not.
By authoritarian you mean like forced/mandated vaccines that haven’t been thoroughly tested? 

Threatening governors that stand in his way? 

Is that what you mean? 

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Str8tEdge » 12 Sep 2021, 5:04 am » wrote: By authoritarian you mean like forced/mandated vaccines that haven’t been thoroughly tested? 

Threatening governors that stand in his way? 

Is that what you mean?

For one, mandated vaccinations are nothing new. Many schools have long required proof of certain immunizations as a condition of admission.  And Pfizer has been approved by the FDA.  As for Biden's threatening governors, seems to me "threats" have mostly been the forte of the RIGHT.  Against the very people doing their best to ensure the public's HEALTH.

So I sincerely doubt we can legitimately compare a president who's trying to save people's lives with the former guy who lied to the nation about the deadly pandemic, then tried to get GOP governors to lie about the election, and telling them to "leave the rest to me."

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B.See » 12 Sep 2021, 6:27 pm » wrote: For one, mandated vaccinations are nothing new. Many schools have long required proof of certain immunizations as a condition of admission.  And Pfizer has been approved by the FDA.  As for Biden's threatening governors, seems to me "threats" have mostly been the forte of the RIGHT.  Against the very people doing their best to ensure the public's HEALTH.

So I sincerely doubt we can legitimately compare a president who's trying to save people's lives with the former guy who lied to the nation about the deadly pandemic, then tried to get GOP governors to lie about the election, and telling them to "leave the rest to me."
1. Pfizer has been approved for EMERGENCY USE. It HAS NOT gone through the testing of any of the mandated vaccines for childre,

1B. There are religious and medical exemptions for childhood vaccines

2. Who mandates childhood vaccines? The federal government? 

3. NO ONE can cause YOU harm if YOU take proper precautions. In other words, unvaccinated pose you no threat.

4. The mandate ONLY APPLIES to those working in companies with over 100 people. It DOES NOT INCLUDE unemployed, illegal immigrants, legal immigrants which completely and literally destroys the argument it's so deadly we have to FORCE vaccinations.

5. You're just a mindless drone who's proven you have no ability to think, debate or even wipe your *** without government/MSM approval. 
 

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Vegasgiants » 12 Sep 2021, 6:37 pm » wrote: If you dont want the vaccine.....dont take it 

No one will hold you down and make you take it

The choice is yours

I had my 1st vaccine on Dec, 19th 2020 and my 2nd on Jan 5th. I am a frontline licensed healthcare worker who had first access. 

I got it because my daughter is immunocompromised and I'm over 50. 

This isn't a debate about getting the vaccine. It's about the federal government overreaching it's authority, skirting the constitution and using OSHA to mandate vaccines. 

IF covid was so  dangerous as  to need mandated vaccines? EVERYONE would be mandated, not just the working class American.

Legal and illegal immigrants have no mandate.
Unemployed have no mandate.
Employees in under 100 employees have no mandate. 

The mandate is trash and should be struck down the day it's instituted. 

 

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Ok. Can you logically explain why the "mandate" is NEEDED but only applies to not even half the populace in this country? 

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Vegasgiants » 12 Sep 2021, 6:56 pm » wrote: It's called a first step

:LOL:   :LOL:   :LOL:   :LOL:   :LOL:   :LOL:   :LOL:   It's called a workaround to the constitution. Kind of like the CDC's ridiculously unconstitutional rent moratorium. 

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Vegasgiants » 12 Sep 2021, 6:58 pm » wrote: Is that a constitutional law opinion?

Aww that's cute.  Lol
It's what  Biden's chief of staff bragged about in a tweet like a *******. 

Do you need help with the word "workaround" ?  Image   Image   Image   Image  Republicans furious as White House Chief of Staff retweets post calling vaccine mandate ‘workaround’
https://www.tech-gate.org/usa/2021/09/1 ... orkaround/
 

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Vegasgiants » 12 Sep 2021, 7:24 pm » wrote: Fine with me

Is it a constitutional law opinion?

Why would you SKIRT the constitution and use a WORKAROUND if you knew the mandate was constitutional? 

You aren't very bright, are you? 

 

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Vegasgiants » 12 Sep 2021, 7:31 pm » wrote: So you have a constitutional law opinion?

HAHAHAHAHA 

HAHAHAHAHA 

HAHAHAHAHA

I guess I answered by own question.....

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Str8tEdge » 12 Sep 2021, 6:33 pm » wrote: 1. Pfizer has been approved for EMERGENCY USE. It HAS NOT gone through the testing of any of the mandated vaccines for childre,

1B. There are religious and medical exemptions for childhood vaccines

2. Who mandates childhood vaccines? The federal government? 

3. NO ONE can cause YOU harm if YOU take proper precautions. In other words, unvaccinated pose you no threat.

4. The mandate ONLY APPLIES to those working in companies with over 100 people. It DOES NOT INCLUDE unemployed, illegal immigrants, legal immigrants which completely and literally destroys the argument it's so deadly we have to FORCE vaccinations.

5. You're just a mindless drone who's proven you have no ability to think, debate or even wipe your *** without government/MSM approval.
The personal insult notwithstanding (and always a handy "go-to" for those with little else to defend) I happen to wipe my ***** just fine, without msm approval or yours, for that matter.

At least I know the difference from a president and government trying to do good FOR the people, as opposed to a bunch of users and grifters like "former guy" and HIS sycophants.

But then again, I guess a guy who's kicked off a fraudulent "university," tried to extort a foreign government, paid off porn stars, and incited an insurrection can't be all THAT bad, eh?  Not to mention the fact that 10 of the last 11 recessions occurred under a Republican administration.  But don't tell any of that to the willfully deluded.

How the Trump Tax Law Created a Loophole That Lets Top Executives Net Millions by Slashing Their Own Salaries — ProPublica
 

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B.See » 12 Sep 2021, 9:31 pm » wrote: The personal insult notwithstanding (and always a handy "go-to" for those with little else to defend) I happen to wipe my ***** without msm approval or yours, for that matter. At least I know the difference from a president and government trying to do good for the people as opposed to a bunch of users and grifters like "former guy" and HIS sycophants. But then again, I guess a guy who kicked off a fraudulent "university" tried to extort a foreign government, paid off porn stars, and incited an insurrection can't be all that bad, eh?  Not to mention the fact that 10 of the last 11 recessions occurred under a Republican administration.  But don't tell any of that to the willfully deluded.

How the Trump Tax Law Created a Loophole That Lets Top Executives Net Millions by Slashing Their Own Salaries — ProPublica

But apparently what you don't know is...how to refute my points. Which brings me back to are you smart enough to be able to wipe your *** without MSM/government assistance?